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Wexford player racially abused in the RSC Friday im being told. Anyone else hear anything about this?
Discussion going on at btid.net about it. The guy who did it realised immediately he was wrong and has apologised from what I read. Seems to be a bit of history between him and the player. It takes a bigger man to apologise for something like that than it does to commit the offence.
Time to move on in my opinion.
Pat Purcell was with Pats for 3 years (when he was in his prime) and didn't get a first team run out. Shaun Maher was part of the Galway team that have conceded about 150 goals so far this season. Neither are premier division quality, never mind good enough for our team.
Really don't want to sound like I'm knocking Limerick, as thats not the intention. Just settle down with the comparisons
Comparing players like this is a waste of time if you ask me. Players can perform a lot different from season to season. Purcell in my opinion is playing way better than he has ever played and seems to be in his prime now. Take Kavanagh for example, he was decent enough for us, in and out of the team and not guaranteed a game all the time with us in the first division. A season later and he has turned himself around and is playing great stuff for Pats in the premier. I'm sure this time last year Pats fans would have said he wasn't good enough for Pats. Then you have Peter Hynes who was known for being a lazy git everywhere he went but has been a workhorse for us and put in a great shift in every game.
Pat Purcell is a decent 1st division centre back but he would get destroyed in the Premier Division where teams tend to hoof less and have a bit more mobility up front.
ITT: People forgetting a good third of the Premier Division is stinking garbage.
This referring to the UCD team that just beat Villareal or the Drogheda team that was a whisker away from a draw with Rovers. Both are continually improving sides. Only Galway are stinking garbage and only Shels, in my opinion, would be good enough to beat any other Premier teams consistently.
A few money grabbers and you think your Man City ;)
An underachieving shambles in blue forever in the shadow of our more illustrious cross city neighbours in red?? We've been Man City for feckin years.
The Premier Division has some rubbish knocking around it. Being of "Premier Standard" is not the same as being good enough to play for a top club that's all I'm saying.
Using meaningless friendlies and one off results as a guage of anything. :bulgy:
Let's expand on this train of thought though, in pre season Limerick beat Dundalk 1-0 away, Bray 4-0 away and Drogheda 4-1 away.
But Rovers only beat Drogheda 1-0
Which means by your logic Limerick are probably the best team in the country.
Or maybe it's Carrick, they beat Limerick one nil and Limerick, as we've established, are a good bit better than Shamrock Rovers.
I'm so confused. :(
Imitation...or improvement.. :)
I would tend to agree with this. Shels are a class above all the rest in the first division this season. Cork aren't anything amazing but building well and Limerick are only starting to put together a quality team with 3 or 4 good signings. Still not premier quality though.
Which part do you agree with? The once off fixtures part or the continually improving sides part? :D
If Shels, Cork, Monaghan and Limerick were in the Premier there's no doubt in my mind that they would be at least lying somewhere between Bray and Galway. And therefore be "premier quality".
By which you mean having 6 points? Monaghan and Cork defo aren't Premier quality. We are and I'd wager that you may well be now after these signings aswell, but the likes of Monaghan and Cork are not and comparing them to other sides who are not of Premier Division quality, but have continually managed to survive because of the failings of others off the pitch is not an accurate measure.
Where did they manage to survive??
In the Premier Division.
Therefore they are of Premier standard.
People tend to have this big opinion of the Premier when good wedges of it every year (due to numerous factors like the off the pitch failings you mentioned) are pish.
That's kinda my point. :ball:
From what I've seen of Waterford last season, Shels last season and Monaghan as bars for the others, they'd easily survive this season in the Premier...next season who knows.
Anyone who says otherwise hasn't seen UCD, Drogs at the start, Galway, Bray lately amongst others. They could be easily mid-table this season, as being shown nicely by Derry who didn't exactly run away with the FD last season and are very comfortable.
Looking forward to playing the likes of Limerick again next season. I've no doubt they'll get better crowds once promoted than some self proclaimed 'big clubs' that are currently in the Premier division.
They will for a season or 2, till the novelty wears off. For example, look at Dundalks crowds this year.
Back on topic though, is MNS getting worse? I thought this weeks show and the coverage of this weeks games was particularly bad. How much time did they spend on the womens world cup and that clown (and no doubt friend of the show) Noel King. To quote from the Drogs mb, less MNS and more PMS!
True, like all the sporting public in this country it would depend how successful we would be in the premier if we where to be promoted. If we went up and struggled the crowds would definitely be poor. Christ Munster had a few poor games and the crowds in Thomond Park dropped by ten thousand people, they got to the Magners League final and straight away it shot back up to a sell out.
The whole premier standard thing is rubbish too. The teams that get promoted will find it easier to sign a higher calibre player and this in turn will make them a higher standard and vice versa for teams that get relegated. Look how long it took Shels to get back to a very good standard not to mention how long it has taken us. As pointed out Derry in the end last season only won the first division by a small bit, haven't strenghtened that much and look where they are now.
Derry signed Zayed, Higgins and McGlynn. They did more strengthening than most...