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15/10/2005, 9:21 PM
Dodge

Not Irish in any way either...
16/10/2005, 11:03 AM
concanta

so what if hes not irish
dont think we can be choosy
16/10/2005, 11:20 AM
concanta

apparently parents are
16/10/2005, 1:20 PM
gustavo

welll thats just great then!
16/10/2005, 1:51 PM
davey

Don't think anyone on this forum has yet established the credentials of young Lawrence.
16/10/2005, 2:02 PM
Dodge

Quote:

Originally Posted by concanta

so what if hes not irish
dont think we can be choosy

:rolleyes: Jesus ****ing christ....
16/10/2005, 7:47 PM
concanta

don't f*cking start that sh*te
don't you want us to challenge again
16/10/2005, 8:02 PM
gustavo

so we just go out and get any old journeyman englishman ?
16/10/2005, 8:37 PM
livehead1

hes a good player...has an irish passport and is playing in the premiership. if breen, o'shea, miller, doherty can get in the squad then why cant he
16/10/2005, 10:21 PM
dynamo kerry

Quote:

Originally Posted by livehead1

hes a good player...has an irish passport and is playing in the premiership. if breen, o'shea, miller, doherty can get in the squad then why cant he

miller? youmean mcgeady I hope?
16/10/2005, 11:38 PM
Dodge

Quote:

Originally Posted by concanta

don't f*cking start that sh*te
don't you want us to challenge again

You stated "so what if he's not irish". How can you justify picking people who aren't Irish?!?!?

And to answer your question, I'd rather we lose every game than play a load of mercenaries. Lawrence decided to get an irish passport when he was 24? Did he not want to be Irish before? Oh and on a football matter, he's fairly poor. Decent championship player but no more
17/10/2005, 8:55 AM
livehead1

Quote:

Originally Posted by dynamo kerry

miller? youmean mcgeady I hope?

nah mcgeady aint been in the squad at the moment. lawrence has played better than miller this season, he started against united, i dint see miller?lol
17/10/2005, 9:47 AM
gustavo

hmm maybe thats cos its a lot easier to get into the sunderland team than the manchester united team.
17/10/2005, 10:26 AM
zinedineontour

Lawrence is a good player ... plays in the style of beckham in the fact he doesnt really go pass his man but sprays the ball around the field very well. In and out of the side this season but has had injuries so hopefully he will cement a place in the side .. as others have said if miller and doherty can get in the side he deserves his chance ..
17/10/2005, 4:38 PM
superfrank

Apparently, he is in the business of getting an Irish passport.

Also, Anton Ferdinand qualifies somehow?
17/10/2005, 5:42 PM
Zidane

I find the Anton Ferdinand story a bit hard to believe. ASAIK he has played U21 for England
17/10/2005, 9:12 PM
FarBeag

We have been through all this before with Lawerence.Just another Irish wanabee.With regard to Rio's little brother this has got to be some kind of joke.One brother playing for Ingerland and the other for us.That is just hilarious.
17/10/2005, 9:15 PM
Irish_Praha

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Originally Posted by FarBeag

We have been through all this before with Lawerence.Just another Irish wanabee.With regard to Rio's little brother this has got to be some kind of joke.One brother playing for Ingerland and the other for us.That is just hilarious.

Hasn't Stevie Gerrard's cousin played for us at underage international level? :eek:
17/10/2005, 9:19 PM
FarBeag

Has he? Why the question? You appear to know more than i do.:eek:
17/10/2005, 9:22 PM
eirebhoy

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Originally Posted by Irish_Praha

Hasn't Stevie Gerrard's cousin played for us at underage international level? :eek:

Until he found out he wasn't actually eligible.:D
16/01/2006, 9:38 AM
zinedineontour

Liam Lawrence

Hopefully Lennie will get into the squad for the Sweden game his performances deserve a call up anyway .. It be nice to have someone naturally right footed on the right wing instead of duff or andy reid .. Though we have not been getting the results our play deserves lawrence has been excellent for us .. I was over at the chelsea game yday and was man of the match ...
16/01/2006, 9:46 AM
FarBeag

If he qualifies to play for us and wants to play for us,i say why not.If he is the Nolan/Kitson 'I am Irish now because England do not want me type' he can get lost.I saw him play on a few occasions and he looks a good player.
16/01/2006, 10:22 AM
zinedineontour

He got his passport last year and wants to play for us .. Talked to him last season and he really does want to play for us and was hoping he might get a call from kerr. Very good player who is now adapting well to the premiership .. If only the others around him could do the same !!
16/01/2006, 10:23 AM
as_i_say

anyone know how he qualifies?
16/01/2006, 10:24 AM
Plastic Paddy

That's good enough for me. Let's get him in the next squad then.

Stan, are you reading this? ;) :D

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Originally Posted by as_i_say

anyone know how he qualifies?

His mother is Irish AFAIK.

:ball: PP
16/01/2006, 10:30 AM
zinedineontour

Quote:

Originally Posted by as_i_say

anyone know how he qualifies?

Yeah his mams Irish ... When he joined sund he got talking to elliott and breen who told him to get his irish passport sorted. Kerr came to watch him once but never but him in the squad .. hopefully stan will give him a run in sweden game ..
16/01/2006, 11:16 AM
shakermaker1982

put him in, anything is better than Doherty and Kilbane!
18/01/2006, 10:48 AM
tetsujin1979

Lawrence hopes for Irish chance

from http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=8725
Liam Lawrence hopes to catch the eye of new Republic of Ireland boss Steve Staunton.

Lawrence qualifies to play for Ireland through his grandfather, despite being born of English parents, and hopes to become part of a new chapter in Irish football.

Staunton replaced Brian Kerr as Ireland manager this week and is on the look-out for new players ahead of his first game in charge, against Sweden on March 1.

Lawrence, who scored against Chelsea on Sunday, is ambitious to play international football after establishing himself at the Stadium of Light over the last 18 months.

Quote:

It would be a fantastic challenge for me. It's important I concentrate on Sunderland but if I do that and play well, I can only improve my chances of playing international football

The Black Cats midfielder has found some form in recent weeks and is hoping it leads to an international chance. He said: "I'd love to be involved with Ireland.

"It's a fresh start for the Ireland national team after appointing Steve Staunton and although I've had no contact with them yet, I've applied for an Irish passport.

"It would be a fantastic challenge for me. It's important I concentrate on my career with Sunderland, but if I do that and I keep playing well, then I can only improve my chances of playing international football."
18/01/2006, 4:27 PM
Den Perry

Quote:

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

from http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=8725
Liam Lawrence hopes to catch the eye of new Republic of Ireland boss Steve Staunton.

Lawrence qualifies to play for Ireland through his grandfather, despite being born of English parents, and hopes to become part of a new chapter in Irish football.

Staunton replaced Brian Kerr as Ireland manager this week and is on the look-out for new players ahead of his first game in charge, against Sweden on March 1.

Lawrence, who scored against Chelsea on Sunday, is ambitious to play international football after establishing himself at the Stadium of Light over the last 18 months.

The Black Cats midfielder has found some form in recent weeks and is hoping it leads to an international chance. He said: "I'd love to be involved with Ireland.

"It's a fresh start for the Ireland national team after appointing Steve Staunton and although I've had no contact with them yet, I've applied for an Irish passport.

"It would be a fantastic challenge for me. It's important I concentrate on my career with Sunderland, but if I do that and I keep playing well, then I can only improve my chances of playing international football."

Liam I can arrange the passport thingfor you.....
19/01/2006, 12:16 AM
Qwerty

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Originally Posted by zinedineontour

Yeah his mams Irish ... When he joined sund he got talking to elliott and breen who told him to get his irish passport sorted. Kerr came to watch him once but never but him in the squad .. hopefully stan will give him a run in sweden game ..

I think Givens tried to get him into the U21 but he had passport problems back then, that was when he was with Mansfield.
19/01/2006, 8:49 AM
zinedineontour

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qwerty

I think Givens tried to get him into the U21 but he had passport problems back then, that was when he was with Mansfield.

Yeah have to say from talking to the lad hes not one of the " I cant get my game for england so ill play for Ireland.. types " he does seem committed and is putting in very decent performances for sund at the moment so should have no problem adapting to international football ..
19/01/2006, 9:25 AM
Stuttgart88

Under Kerr, how often if ever did we ever make a substitution whereby we replaced tired legs with an equally capable alternative? Or put it another way, with only one or two exceptions we could almost always predict Kerr's teams.

I felt during the last campaign that Kerr had in mind his first XI and everyone else was peripheral. If he made the call that the rest weren't good enough then that's fine. It's his job as manager to make those calls. Though I still feel that players like Quinn, Steve Reid, Delap (at one point in time anyway) and to a lesser extent McGeady always got a tough time from Kerr whilst others like Miller were extremely fortunate to have kept their places. You could add Harte to the list of "aggrieved" though I have to be honest I wasn't convinced he should have been called back though he did well when he was.

But now, we have credible options in several positions & hopefully KK as a CM isn't considered one of them! Myabe it's tough on Kerr as the likes of Ireland hadn't broken thru, Miller was rotting in MUFC's reserves. But having the likes of Lawrence on board would be great. Competition between he & Andy Reid for example will be a good thing.
21/01/2006, 7:21 PM
Fergie's Son

Liam Lawrence

While watching today's Sunderland-WBA game the announcers referred to Liam Lawrence as Irish. The heading under his name noted that he is awaiting a call-up to the Irish squad.

Is he any good? Is this a good call up? What does he offer to Ireland? He played on the right against WBA and looked handy enough. Tough tackler and laid on a nice pass for Le Tallac's goal.
21/01/2006, 10:09 PM
superfrank

Holds an Irish paasport, I think he's a second or third generation Irish.

He looks a good player, which is good seen as he's in a struggling team. Scored a cracker against Fulham a while ago. Left-foot volley from the edge of the box, I **** you not.
21/01/2006, 11:42 PM
Fergie's Son

So who would he replace on the team? Put another way, what does he offer Ireland?
22/01/2006, 1:54 AM
tricky_colour

I guess he offers another 'option' if nothing else if he is eligible and willing to
play.
22/01/2006, 2:38 PM
Stuttgart88

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Originally Posted by Fergie's Son

Put another way, what does he offer Ireland?

another option.

especially of someone like andy reid is injured / out of form / tired late in a game. we never once used the bench to any effect in the last campaign.
23/01/2006, 1:59 PM
zinedineontour

well seeing as andy reid isnt a right footer than it will be good to have a natural right footer in the side .. playing very well at the moment full of confidence and will be very good addition to the squad ..
23/01/2006, 2:24 PM
Greenbod

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Not Irish in any way either...

He is an Irish passport holder, and as such , has as much right to call himself Irish as any other Irish citizen.
24/01/2006, 10:12 AM
shakermaker1982

do we have any right wingers on the books? Not the last time I looked. Steven Reid can play there but much better in the middle of the part.

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