Donaghy = ar$e. Glad Kerry lost just so he didn't end up with another winners medal.
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Donaghy = ar$e. Glad Kerry lost just so he didn't end up with another winners medal.
Leave it to the professionals like you :)Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Glad Kerry lost because it meant we won.Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
But he is jobknockey of the highest order.
No class about him at all.
You guys aren't fit to lace Donaghy's boots. I've seen him get hammered all game, get nothing from the ref and not a whimper out of him after the game, but complements paid to the opposition. Donaghy has the ability to accept defeat or victory with equal grace.
he's prob more comfortable with attention in the form of people talking bout him on the internet or in papers, than with marty sticking a mic in his face in front of 80000 screaming fans and millions watching on telly. , after all he can just not read the paper/forumQuote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
I think you're reading a bit too much into this Paul. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
In fairness to Donaghy he says all the right things after the game and is probably an okay guy but once the whistle goes he is one annoying so and so. Moaning to the ref, always involved in pushing and shoving with opposition etcQuote:
Originally Posted by geysir
As Kerry supporters I don't expect you to criticise him but surely you can see that it's reasonable he wouldn't be that popular with opposition supporters?
Donaghy's an ass, but he's also ancient history at this stage...
Ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Ha.
You're kidding right?
Obviously you weren't in the stadium yesterday and watched him antagonising all the Dublin defenders at every opportunity. Or late punches. Or cynical digs in the back. Pulling jersies under highballs.
All of which went unpunished.
I've had the (dis)pleasure of seeing him in many many games live.
You don't see half of what goes on on tv.
He's a cret. End of.
The defence of Donaghy from all quarters does no justice to the other players on the team like the O'Sullivans who were magnificent yesterday, and (holds breath) the Gooch who did what he, annoyingly, always does.
I watched the Sunday game last night and its remarkable what I remember from the game that obviously wasn't shown, or commented on whether rightly or wrongly. But it proves that generally in games like that if you weren't there its difficult to know the crap the likes of KD gets up to around the pitch without the ball.
I'll re watch the full game during the week and see again.
One thing I was happy with though was the commenting on the refereeing of the game. One of the worst refereeing performances that thankfully didn't cost us in the end. Unlike last years semi against cork.
McQuillan is the new Sludden.
[QUOTE]Obviously I was not at the AIF game, but I have seen Donaghy play in the flesh for Kerry on 5 occasions and have been acutely following and playing gaelic for decadesQuote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
When I go to a game, I do observe the dark art activities of both teams. But I see you are color blind :)
Donaghy gets overexcited on the pitch but he is not malicious. I'd prefer to go 15 rounds with Donaghy than 1 minute against Darragh Ó Sé. God knows how many Cork midfielders have the clear deep imprints of both Darragh's knees in their back:)
Sludden's biggest fault as a ref is that he dishes out the cards like confetti and blows his whistle too often, slowing down any momentum.Quote:
One thing I was happy with though was the commenting on the refereeing of the game. One of the worst refereeing performances that thankfully didn't cost us in the end. Unlike last years semi against cork.
McQuillan is the new Sludden.
People are quick to criticize a ref, but I have to say McQuillan should have red carded (without the least hesitation) Brennan's elbow attack, we know McEneaney would have had the bottle to do it, but he is a vastly experienced ref. How Brennan stayed on the pitch after that, was a disgrace. The other big mistake was that he should have added on another minute for time wasting with Cluxton's last free kick or he should have cancelled the free for taking too long and thrown in the ball.
McQuillan has been slow to come down on cynical fouls (Tyrone being the masters of that art), slowing down a team breaking out of their own half. I didn't notice too much of that on Sunday.
I thought he let the game flow as much as possible and we witnessed what I would regard as a great final between the 2 of the best teams in the country, a game that had you on tenterhooks right from the beginning to end and the ref was instrumental in letting the game develop, despite not being able to see every foul or get every decision exactly right.
Congrats to the Dubs. The Dubs in my experience were gracious in victory and I hope they enjoy the celebrations.
I don't get all these comments on Star. Declan O'Sullivan was lucky to keep his head on his shoulders but I don't want to get into that stuff. It was some point by Donaghy to equalise late on. Enough comment has been given on the late free. The healthy rivalry continues. Ciarrai abu.
Maybe jinxy, but the fact he was lapping it up yesterday and even Sunday night, doesn't add up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinxy
Sometimes conciously or subconciously, people are quite calculated in how they approach things. IF you do something less conspicuous you end up going unnoticed, as the way you intended.
As Jimmy carr said(kinda), I spent my teenage years trying to be invisible, except no one noticed.
Geysir, agree with some of what you wrote, namely Ger Brennan and an extra minute after Cluxtons point but I disagree with some of it also most notably refereeing. I shall comment when I'm at my pc later.
No use whining any more about Donaghy, if he is an annoying git on the pitch there is one way to deal with him, but I suppose the Dubs wouldn't have the bottle to take him on in the good old fashioned (ahem) Mone manner.
http://www.sportsfile.com/winshare/w...585/419024.jpg
http://www.sportsfile.com/winshare/w...425/314471.jpg
Yet after the game, Donaghy is man enough to offer man sized consolation to his opponent.
http://www.sportsfile.com/winshare/w...347/262945.jpg
Nah, by all accounts he just wants to play football.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
No interest in anything else and if he hung around on the pitch it was nailed on that Marty Morrissey would stick a microphone in his face.
It would have been hard to top McAuleys interview in fairness!
"The belief in that dressing room is unbelievable". ;)
Did anyone hear Tommy Carr on the "off the ball" podcast? He said if Dublin were on the recieving end of some of the decisions that went against Kerry that the capital would be up in arms.
He said, there was clearly no free at the end, there was not a touch by Eoin on the ground in the square and most importantly he raised the point on the time keeping being so poor.
I don't really want to dwell and comment on these things myself. Sloppy play on our behalf towards the end was crucial in the build-up for the goal. The Dubs like any good team punished the mistake.
Hence my comment that McQuillan had a shocker.
Dublin did receive some bizarre decisions as well and in the end it was probably 50-50 but you know as well as I do that if Kerry were the victorious team, the tables would be turned and we would be here rueing a loss and complaining about refereeing decisions against us.
I was on the hill on Sunday and before the Kerry player kicked the ball while on the ground, it did touch his hand/arm, unintentionally I'd say. However technically, it should have been a penalty. Ref was poor for both teams. Darren O'Sullivan goes to ground regularly in a very exaggerated way, disappointing as he is a great player. Donaghy and O'Mahony seemed to be looking for trouble from the first whistle. O'Mahony stopped after he got booked. Have to say most Kerry supporters were very gracious afterwards, hats off to them. After so long in the wilderness, it was a great day to be a Dub.
It's tough for those Kerry fans having to make the arduous AIF trip to the capital city, year in year out - win, lose, win, lose, win, win, lose, win and lose.
typical dubs win game and still moan about the opposition players players constantly fouling / going down easy :D 2 teams on pitch and dublin players just as guilty as kerry .. perfect example of a player going down easy was for the match winning point. but it seems to be part and parcel of the game now days .. ye dubs should be more gracious in victory.Quote:
Originally Posted by drummerboy
How anyone can say the wining free was not a free is beyond me. You will not see a more blatant foul in a game. Even when the refs make the right call they get blamed. The free for Bernard Brogan v Kildare in the last min was the perfect example. Other camera angles showed his jersey being pulled just before the RTE cameras picked up the tussle, yet the ref was still lambasted.
I forgot about the Brogan's late free against Kildare. After the tv replay image from camera 5 was magnified by a factor of 20, we could indeed see a blatant infringement, a slight tug on his shirt, causing Brogan in full flight to stop dead in his tracks. Brogan converted the free himself to steal - sorry a bit of a slip there - to seal the win.
That was a 100% cast-iron free.Quote:
Originally Posted by old git
From the replay angle, it didn't look cast iron but that could just be the angle.
I had the laugh at the Dublin player with the ball, while waiting for Cluxton to arrive at the scene, picks a bit of grass and throws it in the air, ostensibly to see the strength and direction of the wind, as if to say we are doing serious preparation here - not just wasting time.
I haven't seen a placekicker do that in ages and he wasn't even the taker.
Chill out, there’s always next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by old git
This is an unbelievable read I have to say. But due to what just happened in the last hour I feel I may have to hold off on commenting fully for a bit.
4th attempt to try to make sense of what went on last Sunday. I grew up around Dubs, so the first thing I did at ft was cry, then sent a few texts to lads who have trooped long and hard with the Blues and who deserve the day in the sun, lads who are into the football, genuine fellas. It's not nice to see your team lose, but it is somewhat redeeming to see fellas experience the kind of feeling I've had numerous times since 97.
That said, I've felt as bad as last Sunday before. Not 2001 or 2003, as those were days where there was no doubt about what happened, the better team on the day won. No, last Sunday was eerily similar to 2002 (and to 2007 to an extent, wherein the better team lost) where the better team threw the game away.
I've not watched the replay of the game yet, I got through the first 15 mins, and the last 15, but still if I get something a bit wrong I'll come back and correct it.
You're wrong in your analogy, because Kiko Martinez never bent over and picked Dunne up off the canvas when he had him laid out, but that's what Kerry did to Dublin. They picked them up, applied the smelling salts and then left their hands down by their sides, or, more appropriately, put them up in the air, by giving Dublin the ball to get the crucial scores. That's what is incomprehensible. If Dublin had blitzed Kerry through dynamic football, I'd accept it. But they didn't. Kerry were so comfortable, and then capitulated. Just like in 2002.Quote:
I thought Kerry had the game at 1/2 time, only a point behind and they hadn't started to play their game. After the Dubs got their goal and point, Kerry were shellshocked, they had the ball in scoring range but players in shooting space kept shying away from having a pop and the Dubs eventually scooped up the ball. Great finish, the Dubs picked themselves off the floor on the count of 9 and a half, the Bernard Dunne spirit
Though if it had gone to a replay I would have fancied Kerry to prevail.
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Originally Posted by bonnie Shels
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Originally Posted by BonnieShels
I hope that was the adrenaline talking? I fully understand that Donaghy gets on opposition fans nerves, and not just for his football! Personally I'd prefer if he concentrated more on the football, because for one reason or another Kerry haven't got as much out of him as they could in the past couple of seasons. As Geysir points out, the fella gives back in spades what he takes all year, not just in the course of one match. The goal he scored vs Armagh in 2006 was the perfect illustration of this. Battered by that rubbish piece of lard Bellew and sledged by the equally garbage Hearty, without a hint of protection from the ref, he gave it socks after he scored a peach. He's a fantastic footballer - his distribution of the ball is equal to anyone of his peers, and he has kicked some of the best points I've seen in Croke Park.Quote:
Originally Posted by bonnieshels
In MDMA and Ger Brennan, you have two equally cretinous players. MDMA is one of the biggest posers I've seen on a football field, and I'll enjoy the day he is laid out on the turf.I smiled in the 2nd half when he shaped up to fake a jab at Donaghy then cowered when Donaghy faked to throw the ball at him.
As for Brennan, it would have been justice (and I thought the free should have been reversed, not cancelled by his muppetry) for him had Kerry taken the lead again after what he did to O'Sullivan. I don't buy for a second any of the talk that he couldn't help what he did, that Dec was falling, it was disgusting and he should have seen the line for it. He's proved in the past that he's a knacker, and he never learns.
Now, point-scoring on opposition players is over with, there was some excellent duels in the game. The Dublin full-forward line played well, but then again so did the Kerry full-back line. Killian Young and Marc O'Se are wasted in their respective positions - Young must start next season at centre back. Daniel Bohane should be groomed for fullback, and he can have Marc O'Se and young Enright either side of him.
Kerry were excellent at midfield, Sheehan was man of the match by an absolute mile, and bias aside, his point from play off his weakfoot was about as good an individual point I've seen in an All-IReland final involving Kerry. Galvin was poor, and the his whole involvement in the final was odd. If he was fit enough to come on after 20 mins, then he should have started in place of Donnacha Walsh. To take young O'Leary off like that was wrong in my mind. In hindsight I'd have taken Declan off after the assault. He didn't feature after it apart from giving the ball away and I wouldn't be surprised if he was a bit concussed.
Apart from that Kerry's tactics were spot-on. They varied it all afternoon between the methodical hand-passing build up, withdrawing Donaghy to crowd the lines, then having him on the square (it's not exaggerating to say he should have had 2-2 on the day). The only thing that surprised me was that the gooch didn't get the ball enough. I couldn't understand it. He had the beating of his man, yet he didn't seem to get enough ball into him.
I didn't think Kerry's half back line was good enough on the day. Tomas O'Se made some very poor pass and shot selections in both halves, despite making some fine carries with the ball. Brosnan I just do not like as a player. He wasn't good enough against the top teams 5 years ago, and he never will be. He also lost a lot of ball high up the field. Aidan O'mahony I was very happy with. He's on something of a redemptionist path, and he's looking like the player he once was, before snipergate and asthmagate. From a Kerry point of view though it is very sad that he didn't become the centreback he should have become when he was at the best of his powers circa 2005/2006.
I didn't appreciate Darragh O'Se having a pop today at some of the Kerry team, particularily the jibe about Kealy's kick-out. It wasn't the kick-out that lost Kerry the game, it was the offering the ball to Dublin in the middle of the field on a plate.
Dublin have a lot to be thankful to Kevin mcMenamen for. Not only did he get the goal, but he stopped an almost certain one just before down the other end. Darran O'Sullivan had skipped past two players and had drawn Mick Fitzsimons as Cooper had pulled away into the large box, but McMenamen clipped O'Sullivan on the arm, conceding the free before he could get the pass away. If the ball had got to Cooper there would have been no comeback.
Well done to Dublin. It's going to be interesting next year. I don't think Kerry are going to fall away like some predict. Given his job and location in Cork, I can see Tom SUllivan walking away, and probably Tomas O'Se too, given he's in a similar position. But after that, I can't see anyone going. If anything it might be better next year. The league and defence must be a priority, but there are enough decent defenders there despite what that muppet Spillane says. Enright, Bohane, Young should be the mainstays now, and comlimented by O'Mahony and O'Se makes the job easier. David Moran is a big player to come back, and Scanlon will hopefully be better too. The forwards are good enough as it is, and if the prodigal son does decide to come back home, then things might just get interesting.
This is pretty cool.
Cian Ward and his little brothers.
Gaelic football trick shots.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhiOuY7L5Hc
So, 'the Kingdom' wins The Sour Grapes Cup?
Get over it;You've had a good run, but were beaten by the better team on the day.
If they really want to prove how good they are at GAA, take the Hurling a lot more seriously.
Even Louth do, FFS.
Having been in Croke Park on Sunday, I can honestly say I've never seen such a pup playing Gaelic football before like Donaghy. He he concentrated on the game and his job on the Kerry team he would have a lot more success with his undoubted talents. He was constantly looking for trouble, mouthing off, diving and other such carry on. He is a stain on the Kerry jersey.
As regards the game, it pendulum swung from Dublin to Kerry and back again throughout the match. Dublin done wonderfully well to hold Kerry to 3 scores in first half. When was the last time that happened. Kerry knew they were in trouble when they introduced Galvin after 20 minutes. Dublin then made a decent start to the second half only for Kerry to take control, built up a good score and looked to have the game, only for Dublin to once again come back at them. Great game. For the overall performance I think Dublin deserved it, but then again I’m biased.
Christy Ring cup winners 2011Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Numerous minor and 21 B championships as well as vocational schools championships in the past decade.
Next?
He's not. He's one of many playing the game. Ryan McMenanamin, your own Michael McAuley, Galvin, Noel O'Leary, Galvin.Quote:
Originally Posted by drummerboy
Donaghy was obviously doing it on purpose. Darragh Ó Sé thought that Kerry were too nice and needed more of the Donaghy attitude.
Kingdom I think you were a bit hard on Darragh's comment about the goalie, he was just making reference to that the game needed slowing down, I didn't read it as a personal criticism.
Possibly the Galvin powder keg should have been kept dry until the last 20 mins. Possibly the Kerry manager panicked in response to the Dubs early energy but Kerry were ahead on the scoreboard.
Can anyone see Dublin retaining Sam?
I don't think so , they stumbled through the "series" last year, got a few breaks from the ref's and stole it in the end.
Top four this year,
Kildare
Tyrone
Galway
Kerry
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.Quote:
Originally Posted by apo11o
No we won't win it this year.
I had Kildare as my dark horses last year and my certs this year but after Saturday I'm not so sure. I'll wait for another couple of league games.
Tyrone played very well and Mugsy looks to have lost the tyre.