Considering how lax CR is with the stats, can we presume he is a big hit with the ladies?
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Considering how lax CR is with the stats, can we presume he is a big hit with the ladies?
Dunne is reported as being out for the game, at least we know well in advance.
I think Josh could well be brought in to CH alongside St Ledger with Clark to hold onto LB position. There's plenty of permutations.
Last time we played a competitive game without our 3 key players - Given, Dunne and Keano?
Not good news at all.
Clark could go to CB and put Kilbane/Kelly back at LB. Or O'Shea to CB and bring in Coleman. Hmmm tough one.
I'd say he'll move JoSH into the center with Kelly coming in at RB. I think it's still 50/50 between Clark and Kilbane to start at LB.
With Kelly coming in at RB, I'm sure Trapattoni will be looking at a more defensively strong RM than McGeady.
Special foot.ie cred to the poster who gets the starting permutation absolutely right for this game.
What? Thanks from Paul?Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
If Dunne is missing........... Oh NO! We could see McShane recalled!
I'd imagine it'll be Clark, O'Shea, St Ledger, Foley
Is that from now? What happens if there are more injuries between you make your predicion and now. I was thinking the same thing this morning though about ppl saying who were def starters, i dont think(almost - whelan :D) anyone is def - or at least not in their expected positions for this game now.
I'm in agreement with ifk101 on this one, I cant really see him going with a Left side made up of mcgeady and clark, one for his lack of experience, one for his actually defensive capabailities, and both for not having an understanding/relationship built up over time. I see if he goes with mcgeady on the left he will definitely go for kilbane at full back. Kelly seems to be his preferred option at right back based on previous subsitutitions etc, but what if he goes with McShane? I will be seriouslly worried then.
I think given the 3 key injuries(lets hope keane/dunne might still come back or at least dunne- i want dunne back more than keane) we have, this is where Traps experience and where his approach(annoying as it his at times) will suit us. He will go for experience and as little change to the overall formation/players/system as possible.
Indeed McShane could be recalled .......
It's going to be a difficult game to win.
I assume you mean clark left and not right? I dont see that, given the lack of experience and age, i go with kilbane here assuming dunne isn't fit.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Kelly
O'Shea
St. Ledger
Kilbane
hopefully not though. weak full backs
----------------Westwood------------------Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Kelly --------O'Shea----St Ledger-----Kilbane
McGeady-----Whelan---Andrews-------Duff
--------------Long-------Doyle--------------
Sub: Murphy, Foley, Clark, Gibson, Green, Best, Walters.
I can think of a few boards.ie members who were pretty handy at a game called Fantasy Rafa who might be interested in a new game called Fantasy Trap....
----------------Westwood------------------
Kelly --------O'Shea----St Ledger-----Clark
Fahey-----Whelan---Gibson-------Duff
--------------Long-------Doyle--------------
Sub: J Murphy, Coleman, O'Dea, Wilson, McGeady, McCarthy, Walters.
Why have you put mcgeady right, given his last few games, whether duff fit or not, I think trap prefers him left and then possibly switch?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
I cant see him going with mcgeady and kelly. This maybe is where Lawrence does come in. Having said that trap never really chases a game(italy aside when we were losing) unless we are losing, he seems happy to take a draw.
You changed that on the sly!!!
I dont think he would see fahey as strong enough defensively with kelly, thats why id go with lawrence here. But id prefer that than mcgeady, if we need a goal with 20 mins to go, perfect time to bring him on.
Yeah, this is how I think it'll line up nowQuote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Actually, that looks a little inexperienced (Duff and O'Shea aside)Code:Westwood
Foley O'Shea St. Ledger Clark
McGeady Whelan Fahey Duff
Doyle Long
Doyle as captain?
Trap is not likely to take on a new risk with the back 4, in this (cliche alert) 'must win game'.
Clark has done enough imo to earn Trap's trust to start at LB.
He knows St Ledger can carry a delicate Josh and keep him focussed at CH.
Right full is more tricky- Kelly hasn't played for Fulham since Nov. I can't remember how Foley did in his sub appearance against Norway but hasn't he been at least been playing for Wolves?
Would Trap start Clark with St Ledger at CH and keep Josh and Kilbane at FB?
Why does everyone have O'Shea CB?
Trapp won't do it, not when he considers Clark a CB by trade.
If he has to chose between O'Shea and Clark, he'll pick Clark all day going on what he's said in the past.
We have seen in the past that he doesn't actually always stick with what he says.Quote:
Originally Posted by gilberto_eire
What are the chances of lawrence being thrown in at right back?
It's also how you interpret what he says. And Paul, often your interpretations are on the wild side.
There's a good chance Lawrence mightn't be fit either.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Even with a Manager who we could predict, it'd be a tough team to predict. JOSH captain surely.
Not confirmed but my guess is that the Squad will be named on Monday the 14th of March.
O'Shea will be captain I'd say, with Kelly on the right and Killer on the left.
Also, pity it isn't a centre midfield crisis and he'd have to start McCarthy.
God be with the days when the team picked itself.
Ill take the interpretation of what he said about mccarthy as justification, as some of us said there was definitely more to it, and it turned out that way. They might be a bit more centre right alright though.
Well the team not picking itself is good, but not for an important game like this, but i gather thats what you meant, this game.
Can he call dunne in after announcing the initial squad? I mean at the expense of someone else? He can hardly name him in the orignal squad if houllier says he is injured?
I suppose on one hand, the likes of Clark, Foley, Best etc have to get competitive experience at some stage, but a crucial must win qualifier is hardly the ideal time. But, at home to a lower ranked team is as good a time as any.
So, possibly lining out without Given, Dunne and Keane in a must-win game against tricky, Balkan opposition. I don't think I'm ready for the future yet..
Yeah, predictive Trapology isn't an exact science but I'd say you probably have it there.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlaskaFox
Losing Dunne, Given and Keane is not good news. A team containing Kelly at right back and possibly Kilbane at left back will give away goals. Kilbane offers nothing going forward anymore and makes Duff's/McGeady's jobs harder than they need be. Knocking the ball beyond the opposing full back and chasing it is beyond him now and it is impossible to play a 1-2 with him. Clark has to play and I really hope Coleman comes in at right back (as Trap suggested). We have to win this game and that means if we are going to have to take chances at the back do it with players who can get forward and score.
Noely, when did Trap suggest Coleman might play at RB? I thought he said he mightn't be ready yet.
There's still no evidence whatsoever that there was anything more to it. A media storm arose but that proves nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
I think he can name Dunne in the squad if there's a cahnce he'll be fit.
I believe he said it just after the Welsh game and his gist seemed to be longterm rather than specifically the Macedonia game. Dunne for me is a bigger loss than Keane or Given in that he is the true captain of the team. I really hope he makes it as I don't fancy any of the permutations without him against a team that will come and try attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
How things have changed in the space of a week. Traps team
Forde
Kelly, O'Shea, St Ledger, Kilbane
McGeady, Whelan, Green, Duff
Doyle, Long
My Team
Kenny
Reid, O'Shea, St Ledger, Clark
McGeady, Whelan, Fahey, Duff
Doyle, Long
I hope I'm wrong about Trap's team. I have my doubts he will call up Kenny and I feel he will play Whelan and Green to protect! the defense and hope that Duff especially can open up Macedonia. Bad move if he does.
Agree with your assessment except Green. Even with this injury crisis, Green seemed to be down the pecking order against Wales. Think Andrews, Gibson and Fahey would be more likely. Certainly hope so anyway...
Where's the suggestion that Westwood might be missing? Haven't seen it anywhere.
Google to the rescue
http://thescore.thejournal.ie/furthe...knock-2011-03/
But he's not mentioned in the team news for tomorrow night as an injury so I'm assuming he's fit.
http://football365.com/story/0,17033...800527,00.html
Hamstring according to this. Was forced off at HT at the weekend.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot..._1/9415090.stm
I think Trap just gave Gibson some rope in starting him against Wales. I wouldn't read any more significance of him starting that game in regards to the pecking order. Afterwords, Trap more or less wrote Gibson down the pecking order. I think if Andrews proves his fitness and is called up along with James, then Gibson will be the one dropped.Quote:
Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
The strangest thing (with all the injuries) against Macedonia is that we will have players on the bench that can change the game if we have to go chasing. Coleman, Best, Walters, McCarthy (hopefully) Fahey/Gibson. I still have a feeling Keane especially will make it which would mean Long on the bench as well. It might be a 2-1/3-2 job in our favour this time.
He's giving plenty of the players career advice and 'What Trap Says' is isn't usually the best indicator of anything. Though I think you could be right about Andrews.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
I'd base my opinion first and foremost on Gibson's performance against Wales. The career advice from Trap was just stating the obvious out loud and what most everybody here observes - sometimes loudly.
This is the best start to Fantasy Trappa possible :D