el weekly cancelled

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

In fairness, this was your original point in the thread. If this is a temporary pull-out, I'll be a bit swayed back in favour of TV3, though I'm still sceptical. We'll have to see, but either way, the programme needs to improve and there are no signs of this at all, which is fuelling the negative attitudes towards the station.

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Firstly regards all your other points above ... i cant disagree with them.

The point quoted above .... stu ... i am in the same boat as everyone else. I have always hoped that it would improve. I heard they pulled the plug aswell ... i understood it was a temp thing, we were given the reasons, i saw their side of it (and still do) we were lead to believe that as soon as the clubs sort out their camp then all would resume. I believed it to be true (maybe naive of me, but i see it as optimistic).

As things are unfolding ... it doesn't look good (as you pointed out) i am now a bit worried but i am not jumping to the other side of the fence. I still think the clubs should be helping themselves.

And if they pull the plug ..... is still think the clubs should do more to improve the situation.

Just to add aswell

info@tv3.ie


I have mailed them to ask what is actually happening .... there is no harm in asking.

sport@tv3.ie is the best e mail to use, but you'll just get a standard reply

excellent production last nite - Sports Tonight

lots of effort went into it and they had a sponsors slot featuring a competition bankrolled by walkers crisps - anyone who still thinks tv3 dont have another agenda over ladders is kidding themselves

el weekly - the worst produced show ever has been shelved to sell english crisps and watch syndicated (ie cheap) footage of tiger woods and ged foullier at a training session

huzzzah!

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Originally Posted by wws

el weekly - the worst produced show ever has been shelved to sell english crisps and watch syndicated (ie cheap) footage of tiger woods and ged foullier at a training session

huzzzah!

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huzzah indeed,

you've just given me an idea; we launch a campaign to get TV3 to give wall to wall coverage of the premiership, with banalysis from Rico and Scully and hey presto the public turn to the EL in their droves

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Originally Posted by TommyT

huzzah indeed,

you've just given me an idea; we launch a campaign to get TV3 to give wall to wall coverage of the premiership, with banalysis from Rico and Scully and hey presto the public turn to the EL in their droves

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In fairness, it could hardly be worse than The Premiership on RTE. How, HOW, can Bill O'Herlihy still know so little about football after covering it for god knows how many years??

eh thats the general idea as the anchor man - his job is to play dumb and than be ASTOUNDED by the insight of ex pros dunphy and giles et al

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Originally Posted by wws

eh thats the general idea as the anchor man - his job is to play dumb and than be ASTOUNDED by the insight of ex pros dunphy and giles et al

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Come now, it's quite clear that there's no "playing" involved. Watching him struggle with the names of (huge) clubs that happen to play outside his beloved Premiership when covering European games is embarrassing. Remember when he clearly thought Ireland had qualified for the World Cup after beating the Netherlands? :rolleyes:

Thought Cork City had beaten Dynamo Kiev when it was CSKA Kiev :rolleyes:

A walking diasaster area alright. Always seems totally perplexed when english clubs get beaten in european competition.

because its a premiership station, totally loyal to the premiership with all ex english based pros as analysts - what do you expect - take Dunphy - his whole cl analysis was based around arsenal man united and chelsea! :rolleyes:

by the way on the gantries a post on the pats mb says rte built them in the first place (which is what I thought all along)

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Originally Posted by wws

because its a premiership station, totally loyal to the premiership with all ex english based pros as analysts - what do you expect - take Dunphy - his whole cl analysis was based around arsenal man united and chelsea! :rolleyes:

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Now, now, Celtic aren't in the Premiership yet.

I emailed RTE twice a while back to find out if they could tell me how many of the Glasgow Celtics' games they'd broadcast in the past two years, and the corresponding number of domestic games covered in the same period. Needless to say, they never got round to giving me the info, but I'd put the figure at around forty Celtic and eight domestic.

Actually, one thing has become clear from this thread; we should be focusing as much, if not more, energy on HAMMERING RTE for better coverage than complaining about TV3 dropping theirs. TV3 is a two-bit trash TV wasteland, RTE purports to be the national broadcaster and has absolutely no excuse.

rte always use the rights excuse issue..... :confused:

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Originally Posted by max power

rte always use the rights excuse issue..... :confused:

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They'd be the rights that stopped them broadcasting Bohs-Shels last year? :confused:

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Originally Posted by wws

because its a premiership station, totally loyal to the premiership with all ex english based pros as analysts - what do you expect - take Dunphy - his whole cl analysis was based around arsenal man united and chelsea! :rolleyes:

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Liam Brady isnt too bad when it comes to the champions league. I suppose that comes down to his time playing on the continent.

As for the rest of them - yep yore right WWS their lack of knowledge on many of the teams competing is sad really.

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Originally Posted by max power

rte always use the rights excuse issue..... :confused:

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There is no rights issue - you could set up a station tomorrow and broadcast a game once you'd agreed it with the clubs. TV3 have/had to produce the show as part of the delayed coverage deal, but they never had exclusive rights.

so i can put internet highlight on line of our games if the club agrees to it ????

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Originally Posted by max power

so i can put internet highlight on line of our games if the club agrees to it ????

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Well there is no rights issue anyway, including 'net AFAIK*.

*but then I'm not a broadcast lawyer, and would assume you'd have to have filmed it or you'd have to get permission from whoever did.

no more interest in EL, the TV3 text on EL which was far superior to RTE is now gone, as someone says in another MB they must really have got the Hump with the League

not the league in general, just certain clubs which i have said numberous times

No selling out to Sky!!!


Somebody could organise an online petition to give to RTE. I'm sure there would be alot of signatures if everybody forwards it around. I remember there was a special site, www.petitiononline.com.

more toilet paper to use out in d4........sorry but rte really don't give a toss, i think an iternet package with highlights is the best we can hope for at this stage :(

rte dont give at toss whereas tv3 do :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Rocky

No selling out to Sky!!!

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screw that, which broadcaster is covering the U21 game in galway. if they can do an Irish news programme solely for Irish viewers they can do an EL show solely for irish viewers too. I'd get sky sports if they showed regular live games and did a decent package over the EL season.

sell out to the company that gives proper coverage to the league, and puts some money and interest into it.

i don't really give a damn who shows it, it could hitlers love child for all i care, just as long as the public profile is raised and we get a bit of coverage

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Originally Posted by A face

Firstly regards all your other points above ... i cant disagree with them.

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No, no, that's not how debates work on this forum! You're supposed to blindly repeat your previous point, call me an idiot, then bash Roy Keane/Mick McCarthy for a while before blaming the British occupation of the North for the whole thing! You don't (partly) agree with me! :p

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Originally Posted by A face

As things are unfolding ... it doesn't look good (as you pointed out) I am now a bit worried

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Sorry 'bout that... :o ;) :o

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

No, no, that's not how debates work on this forum! You're supposed to blindly repeat your previous point, call me an idiot, then bash Roy Keane/Mick McCarthy for a while before blaming the British occupation of the North for the whole thing! You don't (partly) agree with me! :p

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Nah ... not for me, all this blind repeating arguing. My view all along was clubs should be the ones making the effort. If stuff needed to be done then it was in their own interest.

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Sorry 'bout that... :o ;) :o

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Me too ... gutted, why didn't the wait till the end of the season, or not start at the start of this one. We've only played a handfull of games in all fairness.


To be honest ..... this kind of thing will always be the case unless the clubs with the FAI tied whoever down to a deal to do the lot, domestic and international.


National Broadcaster my áss ..... i am totally píssed off to be honest.

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Originally Posted by tiktok

screw that, which broadcaster is covering the U21 game in galway. if they can do an Irish news programme solely for Irish viewers they can do an EL show solely for irish viewers too. I'd get sky sports if they showed regular live games and did a decent package over the EL season.

sell out to the company that gives proper coverage to the league, and puts some money and interest into it.

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I totally agree. I reckon Sky would be the best option but who knows if they have any interest in covering the el or not.
Everything Sky do, they do well. Any el show they would do would be an excellent presesntation and would be shown over and over again at a reasonable hour. They would generate a lot of interest and hype and or course it would be nice to get some of their money aswell!

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Originally Posted by Colm

I totally agree. I reckon Sky would be the best option but who knows if they have any interest in covering the el or not.

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if they were told that they had to cover the EL as part of the deal to show Irish matches they'd be interested. It's not like it would bother them too much having to show the EL, they've nothing else on during the summer or on an average friday night.

Bringing this up again .... It is NOT cancelled ..... When all ten clubs can provide the proper facilities, they'll be back on air.

The only thing pending on this are the clubs.

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Originally Posted by A face

Nah ... not for me, all this blind repeating arguing.

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Originally Posted by A face

My view all along was clubs should be the ones making the effort. If stuff needed to be done then it was in their own interest.

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sorry but at the mo it IS cancelled, that was the word from a sports presenter on tv 3.........

I was looking at Lansedown road today and the gantry in the North Terrace. The only way upto it is a ladder, not even bolted to the ground, that's tied to the gantry at the top.

An obvious health and safety risk so, I can only imagine TV3 have pulled the plug on showing international matches until this safety threat is sorted, afterall, isn't that the only thing stopping them showing EL footie?

Slash/ED ...... i totally agree with you .... thing is TV3 dont. As soon as the 10 clubs are sorted out, they say they'll be back on. That's the line they are giving and that is the line FAI are giving aswell. To be honest ... all the clubs should be trying ot build a good relationship with the only channel that is/will show anything eL related.

Just to follow Slash's point. The scaffolding was no where near up to the standard of the eL grounds, and at a far greater height than any eL ground (straight drop at the back of the North terrace), with a bog standard ladder to get up there.

So are Sky ignoring Health and Safety or are TV3 using it as an excuse?

yes sky are and their camera man are willing to do it, do you have a problem that the tv 3 camera men won't ??? macy why don't you do camera man at the games, you centinaly seem to know how to do everything else and what everyone else should do....or will you cop out

Whats for me to cop out off, as I haven't signed a contract to show eL games? Two weeks ago, before you were drinking with the cameraman, you would've been as píssed off as the some of us are. I mean, it was you who were going on about getting Town games filmed with you're new camera due to the lack of coverage, especially at Flancare (which now isn't up to standards either apparently).

I don't know anything about using a camera, however I can spot a bullshít excuse, which is what TV3 are offering. If Celtic played Shels in a friendly at Tolka, wait and see how fast TV3 would get those camera's up to the gantry...

firstly have you seen the contract tv 3 signed with the league ??? if so do you know what health and safety clauses are in it ???

next, i will record games when i have an out put point for them, website or el weekly or the like......my main focus is a decent european package, i'll pm you the details if you wish.

as you said you know nothing about camera so you don't know then how much they cost and how easily they can be damaged....ladder issue....

flancare isn't the best but its ok, i mentioned the roof issue as a comfort point on a cold nov night.....

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Originally Posted by max power

flancare isn't the best but its ok, i mentioned the roof issue as a comfort point on a cold nov night.....

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EErr, the LOI doesnt play in November anymore!

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Originally Posted by max power

firstly have you seen the contract tv 3 signed with the league ??? if so do you know what health and safety clauses are in it ???

as you said you know nothing about camera so you don't know then how much they cost and how easily they can be damaged....ladder issue....

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So is it H&S or about Camera damage?