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That was one of the worst games to watch this season, right up there with Pats at the Showgies this season.
But the standard was just terrible in comparison.
Harps were bad, very bad but we were not much better, a real gutless performance.
The lads didnt seem interested tbh.
But ill take a win but if we perform like that again in the next round well there wont be any trip to the final again.
I didnt see 800 Harps fans it tbh.Quote:
1565 was the official attendance with about 700 Sligo fans,
Probably about right with the estimation of Rovers fans, about 700 or so.
Oh the humanity, you see worse when kids are getting out of school.Quote:
all fairly well behaved except for the young muppets who were jumping around the streets after the game in front of cars their tops off. One lad pulled off his top (I swear he was no more than 4 stone the skinny little fook) and started jumping around, only for his trousers to fall down ha ha.
Made me do a LOL for some reason.
How Fingal didn't put us away in the First Half is beyond me, after twenty minutes we were thinking 8,9 or 10 nil.
But fairplay, we showed great character which was important after the Derry debacle. Replay is a pure nuisance though.
And as for the crowd. :O
Are you for bleedin real?
I think you might have watched the game through rose tinted glasses. Can you not remember the first twenty minutes when Paddy K and Chambers tore yous to shreads, I think your left back needed counselling at half time after the roastin he got. We were then guilty of sloppy play mainly by Turner and Bayly losing possesion cheaply and a few wobbles from Mannus. We almost scored a goal of the season contender right at the start of the second half, but fair play yous started to play a bit and created some good chances, then we scored and yous hit the post,we scored again and all credit yous put us under a lot of pressure and deserved a goal. Yes yous had a good shout for a peno as did we and we were lucky not to have let the lead slip.
As for the officials, they were equally ****e for both sides, don't let your own bias cloud that one, Paddy K was kicked all over the park and one terrible tackle near the end over on the main stand side should have been a red card, you could hear the clatter of the studs against his shinpads from our side but the lino waived play on.
If, as you say, that was an increase on normal attendances, how the fcuk do yous survive?, a Rovers official told me 610 of us 350 of yous, very poor home crowd for a cup game.
Anyway thanks be to jaysus I wont have to suffer goin up to the flan siro for twelve months at least, the ticket office for away fans didn't open until 35 minutes before kick off with 3-4 hundred queing, whats the crack with employin your local pub bouncers as stewards? What experience have they got as match day officials? I'll tell you, none. They stood in front of our section peering in tryin to entice some of our ******* section into doin something stupid, they were repeatedly asked to sit down as they were blocking peoples view, but they refused, fcukin scumbags.
55 minutes to get from the ground to the top end of the town, bleedin disaster. An hour and ten from there to O'Connell bridge!! Thank god for late opening on Fridays.
Its a very fair assesment of last night.
At least Longford officials know how to count-No small time antics re. the attendance.
Its posts like the above from someone who was 150 miles away that give Rovers fans ammunition against this site.
If you have nothing constructive to say,say nothing.
Inlcuding this gem...
The arrogance of Shams fans is really quite breath takeing.Quote:
Originally Posted by GGAJD
Aww that huwted my feelings.Quote:
At least Longford officials know how to count-No small time antics re. the attendance.
The only time Shams fans would be happy with this site is when every fan on this are grovelling at the feet of Shams and appealing to your clearly over inflated sense of importance.Quote:
Its posts like the above from someone who was 150 miles away that give Rovers fans ammunition against this site.
If you have nothing constructive to say,say nothing.
Dont kid yourselves that it is anything rational, "ohh no someone on an internet forum slagged me off", boo hoo.
But if posts like mine help perpetuate the worst boycott in history then smiles all round.
I'd say their wage bill is a bit smaller than Shamrock Rovers?? A Longford fan could probably confirm this for you.
Who do you suggest they employ? Some of the local Longford Professional Matchday Steward companies 1500 employees??Quote:
whats the crack with employin your local pub bouncers as stewards? What experience have they got as match day officials? I'll tell you, none.
It's a pity they weren't as professional and thorough as the stewards in Tallaght who allowed someone to walk across the pitch to fall around infront of Gary Rogers and left it to the St Pats players to remove him. :bulgy:
People in (rented)glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Getting wound up by a steward "peering" when you're supposed to be watching a match. :bulgy:Quote:
They stood in front of our section peering in tryin to entice some of our ******* section into doin something stupid,
Implying Longford Town FC are somehow at fault for traffic problems in the town of Longford. :bulgy:Quote:
55 minutes to get from the ground to the top end of the town, bleedin disaster.
I was mearly stating that a game such as last night in the cup against Rovers at home could only attract a small home crowd, which was apparantly a big increse on the norm and I wondered how they survive day to day. But of course Rovers fans asking a question on here is taboo to some.
The stewards in Tallaght weren't standing up in front of the crowd refusing to move as they were blocking some peoples view, they were extremely antagonistic towards anyone who asked them to crouch down and were obviously lookin to stir the preverbial for that reason they were scumbags.Quote:
Who do you suggest they employ? Some of the local Longford Professional Matchday Steward companies 1500 employees??
It's a pity they weren't as professional and thorough as the stewards in Tallaght who allowed someone to walk across the pitch to fall around infront of Gary Rogers and left it to the St Pats players to remove him. :bulgy:
Where did I imply the traffic situation had anything to do with ltfc? I simply stated that it's a cnut of a town to get out of after a game, which it is. But you go ahead and try to suggest this sort of sh-ite if it makes you feel importantQuote:
Implying Longford Town FC are somehow at fault for traffic problems in the town of Longford. :bulgy:
You didn't ask "how they do survive?" though.
You asked:Then followed it up with:Quote:
If, as you say, that was an increase on normal attendances, how the fcuk do yous survive?
You know, like the way an annoyed 12 year old might ask a question.Quote:
a Rovers official told me 610 of us 350 of yous, pathetic home crowd for a cup game.
It's all a big anti Rovers conspiracy!!! TO THE BOATS!! TO THE BOATS!!Quote:
But of course Rovers fans asking a question on here is taboo to some.
When are you tallking about??Quote:
The stewards in Tallaght weren't standing up in front of the crowd refusing to move as they were blocking some peoples view
Was this on the night when they allowed someone to walk onto the pitch and fall around infront of Gary Rogers before leaving it to the Pats players to drag him off??
They weren't blocking anyones view though?? Cool.
Throwing shapes like??Quote:
they were extremely antagonistic towards anyone who asked them to crouch down
As a steward I'd imagine they would be able to see more of what's going on standing up.
Calling somebody a scumbag because they wouldn't sit down when you told them to. :bulgy:Quote:
and were obviously lookin to stir the preverbial for that reason they were scumbags.
Fair Enough, I misread your point, I'm really sorry.Quote:
Where did I imply the traffic situation had anything to do with ltfc? I simply stated that it's a cnut of a town to get out of after a game, which it is.
Thinking t'internet is important. :bulgy:Quote:
But you go ahead and try to suggest this sort of sh-ite if it makes you feel important
The usual black v white attitude delievered in the usual multi quote text. Some of your points are worth considering but then you throw in "renting" just for a laugh,I'd imagine.
Now don't get me wrong,I have no problem renting.Its other fans fascination with us renting that I find quite sad.In fact its renting that will ensure Rovers long term survival in that no developer will come in to try and buy the land as has happened with LOI clubs,gaa clubs even golf clubs.
The use of renting where there is no need in this case just shows that small time mentality again.
As for the "boycott" mentioned by "Rasputin".There is none.Was never one and probably will never be one.If an individual posters choose not to post then thats up to them.Me,well I'm never one to sheirk a disagreement so here I am.The "boycott" line usually gets thrown in when a poster hasnt got a leg to stand on,just before the spelling and punctuation card is produced.
Then we have a percieved arrogance.Not from me.I know where we've been and I know there is nothing worse than bigging yourself up only to be knocked down.Can't see Rovers fans ever using (eg) "big club" as a tag because its so easy to knock with something as simple as the attendance at the bray fixture last week.
The matchday set up at Longford last night was not a very pleasant one.
Body-searched,2 portaloos(One men,one women so in essence one portaloo for 580 men!),12 steward blocking the view standing eye-balling fans.Some will say we bring it on ourselves but then these little things are easily avoided.If we are so bad why allow both sets of supporters out at the same time.I thought standard practise was to hold away fans back?
Although LTFC arn't responsible for the traffic,surley its not beyond the realms of posibility for 1 of the gards zooming up and down the Stroketown rd to direct traffic at the busy T-junction in the town centre-Again a little thing that would make the match day experience a little less of a chore.
If arrogance is not wanting to que for 15 mins for a leak then so be it!
Seriously,How are you not barred for wumming?You add nothing,inject yourself into discussions you know nothing about using broad sterotypes and when questioned on specifics you churn out the same worn out topic such as,Boycotts,arrogance of Rovers fans,renting,racism and hooligan jibes.You cant even accept your club cheated mine and the FAI from the split of around 800 paying customers despite EVERYONE agreeing that the sligos attendance figure was a sham!
Then theres the "thanks" at the end of every post derogatory about Rovers .
Sad fool or WUM-At least you shouldn't be barred for being a sad fool!
I multi quote cos I find it easier to read and that innit. You'd be surprised how little thought I put into my posting style.
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Some of your points are worth considering but then you throw in "renting" just for a laugh,I'd imagine
I'm just wiling away the time posting and watching Soccer Saturday while I'm waiting for a loan of a lawnmower tbf.
Still, having spotted that I was only having a laugh, instead of arguing some of the points you say are worth considering (thanks very much btw) you have a tiny little cry about other clubs, small time, etc.
Here:
LOL!!!!Quote:
Now don't get me wrong,I have no problem renting.Its other fans fascination with us renting that I find quite sad.In fact its renting that will ensure Rovers long term survival in that no developer will come in to try and buy the land as has happened with LOI clubs,gaa clubs even golf clubs.
The use of renting where there is no need in this case just shows that small time mentality again.
Providing further evidence that the actual obsession could actaully lie with Rovers fans being obsessed about other fans being obsessed with them. :eek:
Welcome to Division One.Quote:
The matchday set up at Longford last night was not a very pleasant one.
That's fair enough aslong as there was a Guard there. If there wasn't then you shouldn't have let them do it.Quote:
Body-searched
You should see the toilets under the Main Stand!!Quote:
2 portaloos(One men,one women so in essence one portaloo for 580 men!),
Why is an eyeballing steward worthy of anything more than a laugh??Quote:
12 steward blocking the view standing eye-balling fans.
As for blocking the view, I assume they can see more standing up, just look around them or move a foot to your left or right. It's a tiny little bit inconvenient but it's certainly preferrable to a situation where the stewarding is so lax that a fan can walk on to the pitch, fall around infront of Gary Rogers and then have it left to Pats players to drag him off.
I agree, Shamrock Rovers fans should behave better on their travels and the board should be seen publicly to make examples of those who don't.Quote:
Some will say we bring it on ourselves but then these little things are easily avoided.
I have no idea, sounds like a strange one and a question for the Longofrd Event Controller.Quote:
If we are so bad why allow both sets of supporters out at the same time.
Garda incompetence is a whole other issue which has nothing to do with football as such tbf. Like for example often in Limerick if Munster are playing the gurads will simply turn off alll the traffic lights around the town and leave it to people to sort it out among themselves! :bulgy:Quote:
Although LTFC arn't responsible for the traffic,surley its not beyond the realms of posibility for 1 of the gards zooming up and down the Stroketown rd to direct traffic at the busy T-junction in the town centre
Believe me I have seen it but my point stands.Individuals choose to post here-Individuals choose not too.I won't have anyone(except a mod or admin obviously)tell me where I can or can't post however some Rovers fans often make a show of the club on here not to mention talking out of school.
Would you believe I checked the quoted post for spelling mistakes:p
Surely "having a laugh" is another way of admitting to Wumming?
The obsession example is a cop out and a more intelligent way of saying "I know i am but what are you" or some similar playground game.
Another cop out is the "div. 1" jibe.No excuse and depicts of a set of clubs who have thrown in the towel until they reach the promised land of the premier.Thank God we didnt adapt that approach when in div. 1.
The toilets under the main stand are wholey adequate and you brushing it off will not excuse the fact that 1 portaloo isn't.
Stewards should be in a position to react to a situation not creating one.
I don't mind being searched as I have nothing to hide.It's the fact that they deem us worthy of a searching that again could create a bad vibe whem it's not needed.
Hard to take you or some others serious when you admit to having a laugh at my clubs expense.I obviously have a higher regard for SRFC than you do for Limerick.
String me up buttercup.
Yes because this whole he said she said battle about percieved anti Rovers bias on foot.ie is SERIOUS BIZNESS and should be treated as such...........Quote:
The obsession example is a cop out and a more intelligent way of saying "I know i am but what are you" or some similar playground game.
It depicts a set of clubs that have far far less in the way of resources and backing than Shamrock Rovers have.Quote:
Another cop out is the "div. 1" jibe.No excuse and depicts of a set of clubs who have thrown in the towel until they reach the promised land of the premier.
Some short memories up in hereQuote:
Thank God we didnt adapt that approach when in div. 1.
The match day experience at Tolka when you were in Division 1 was a bit manky.
Still, ye had far less resources then, so I wont hold it against ye.
Actually, I seem to remember a shocking incident in Tolka that year when a Limerick player was strectered off on a table for example.
I'm glad to here Longford have sorted out the wiring and plastering.Quote:
The toilets under the main stand are wholey adequate and you brushing it off will not excuse the fact that 1 portaloo isn't.
As for your end, again of course one portaloo isn't ideal, but see my previous points re: resources and your fans behaving like animals on previous trips.
Why is an eyeballing steward worthy of anything more than a laugh??Quote:
Stewards should be in a position to react to a situation not creating one.
As for blocking the view, I assume they can see more standing up, just look around them or move a foot to your left or right. It's a tiny little bit inconvenient but it's certainly preferrable to a situation where the stewarding is so lax that a fan can walk on to the pitch, fall around infront of Gary Rogers and then have it left to Pats players to drag him off.
Of course the Shamrock Rovers fans were worthy of searching.Quote:
I don't mind being searched as I have nothing to hide.It's the fact that they deem us worthy of a searching that again could create a bad vibe whem it's not needed.
At a few fans who are willing to bite down on any bit of percieved anti-Rovers bias rather than at your club per se.Quote:
Hard to take you or some others serious when you admit to having a laugh at my clubs expense.
This is meaningless nonsense so meh.Quote:
I obviously have a higher regard for SRFC than you do for Limerick
maybe just maybe if rovers fans asked why clubs feel it neccessary to hire bouncers, doormen to steward your fans instead of defending sometimes dispicable behavouir
and then to insult and denegrate grounds around the country as kips,dumps etc and then get upset when someone uses the word rented is i think foolish
Yeah because SRFC were responsible for the order of maltas equipment.:rolleyes:
The fledgling SRFC board of our first div. year would have put most other clubs to shame as regard the matchday orginisation.TBF it was with the help of shels officials that helped the operation run as smooth as it did.We also had the same resources while in the prem. and playing in Tolka ie.we didn't use the fact we were div 1 as an excuse.
With regard resources-You get what you deserve in football.If the people of Athlone,Limerick,Longford got out and supported their team chances are they'd be in the premier.I shouldn't feel guilty because our increased attendance and the extra revenue they create are more than the above teams.
Ditto on your last point!
I havn't defended anything mate nor called anywhere a "kip" or a "dump" nor am I upset about renting Tallaght.I'm over the moon we are renting Tallaght.
But.....why are Derry,Cork,Bray,Athlone,Galway not offered similar tags.They are in similar positions to us with councils or assosiations owning the ground where they play.Even the glorious boys in green play on turf that doesn't belong to them.
Again,It doesn't bother me-I just feel sorry for people who have to bring it up at every available opportunity............and more.
For me renting is the future of sustainable football in Ireland.Owning Tolka or Dalymount hasn't exactly been a bed of roses for shels or bohs not to mention Drogheda.
As Ive said in another thread-"the Field" mentality.
Whether or not there's a stretcher there would be the type of thing a well organised club would check before a game in my opinion. You clearly don't agree though so that's fair enough. It's all about opinions.
If you say so. Again, all about opinions.Quote:
The fledgling SRFC board of our first div. year would have put most other clubs to shame as regard the matchday orginisation.
If you had the same resources playing in the Premier as you did playing in the First, then someone was on the take when you were in the Premier in Tolka.Quote:
TBF it was with the help of shels officials that helped the operation run as smooth as it did.We also had the same resources while in the prem. and playing in Tolka ie.we didn't use the fact we were div 1 as an excuse.
Either way far more resources than a Longford Town, even had help from another club!!
And if the people had come out and supported Rovers in the 80s Kilcoyne wouldn't have sold Milltown from under your arse. But lets not go off on tangents, tis pure pointless.Quote:
If the people of Athlone,Limerick,Longford got out and supported their team chances are they'd be in the premier.
I can't speak for Athlone or Longford but I reckon if the council built a nice new ground and made it available to us for rent, we could get significantly higher crowds. As it stands our crowds aren't awful, all things considered
No ones asking you to feel guilty dear. I'd say one or two are struggling to grasp your struggle to grasp the reasons for what happened in Longford though.Quote:
I shouldn't feel guilty because our increased attendance and the extra revenue they create are more than the above teams.
EDIT: For anyone concerned, the lawnmower arrived and the lawn has been done. Am now wiling away some time before I have my dinner.
HD Highlights of Bohs v Shels
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You can't inject a tangent into a discussion and not expect me to react-Especially that one!
The life president of the FAI would have sold Milltown no matter how many people paid through the turnstiles.Having his top cheerleader Dunphy offer revisionist opinions on a "Top 20" type because Jonny Giles vision for Rovers and the league in general didnt come true has obviously worked on you.
Strange to be lectured on an away fans perspective on last night in Longford by someone who wasn't there!
You'll never know if you will ever have big crowds in Limerick unless you do something about it,although Athlone have a fine muicipal stadium not too far from the town centre and god knows they can't get the crowds flocking to a fine stadium -You seem to think that if you had the same facility as SRFC you would have similar crowds,maybe you would but I just dont think its as easy as that and other factors such as a strong core support,the right people in charge,a good marketing campaign along with an appetite for live football from the locality are all as important as the ground itself.
i seem to recall some scum trying to chant during a minutes silence, i suppose the fact people told them to shut up makes it ok? your fans are no angels so don't try and make it seem like they were being picked on by the big bad bouncers
actually i remember seeing some sort of trouble between the fans and stewards a few times lads came down and shouted abuse at the stewards, what was all that about i was quite far away
and yes our attendances are awful 200 approx per game so to have 1,000 was fantastic,
i estimate a little under 500 shams fans, certainly not in the region of 600, whoever your official is can't count, )no wonder so many LOI clubs go to the wall if the people in charge can't count)
and we destroyed you for the most part in the 2nd half, we let in 2 awful goals you didn't deserve to win, for christ sake all ye did was hoof the ball all game
On a side note i was having a p1ss yesterday (when you have your best taughts ) and i taught to myself, how much has the standard of the top teams in the league declined if the likes of fenn who could get no where near the old bohs 1st team can walk into the starting 11 of the ''best'' team in the country at present
apologies for inarticulate badly worded post, i am a tad hungover and am listening to kids argue over the wii...
I'm going to come in here and defend LTFC.....the club officials and stewards did an excellent job you Rovers fans have to learn that your club now has a reputation even if it is a so called small minority of fans that cause trouble and your going to have to learn to live with the consequences.
AcornVilla is right your fans started signing during a minutes silence and thats just pure dirt on your fans behalf.....I was surprised with the amount of drunk supporters that got in the was a fella in the stand who was falling down the steps and the guards (who made a mess of the whole thing imo) seen him yet let him walk on despite him roaring abuse at them.
Like I said the guards made a mess of the thing and whenever they try to direct traffic hey make a pure blx of things people would be better off doing things themselves.
the reason the fans were let out at the same time was because their was a fence up seperating the fans and the guards were ready with dogs so well done to the club it was well done and I hope Rovers enjoy the rest of their away days.
I arrived just as the game kicked off and didnt even know there was a minutes silence but i have heard some of our own fans giving out about it with the usual suspects getting the blame.Drunkeness is usually the reason behind this sort of thing and while not excusing it,it is a reason for acting the idiot.
Cant say it happened this time but once or twice(Def. in sligo this year!) in the past fans queing outside grounds have broken minute silences without knowing one was taken place.
There was no trouble in the ground.One hoop decided to offer a bit of brinkmanship with a bouncer which ended in a group hug-Seriously!!
The count I was told was give or take 60/40 Rovers.This is not an estimate.This was the figure taken by the same people who clicked patrons entering the Showgrounds and the gate money recieved by Rovers corresponded to this.The words "at least they didnt try to cheat us" were then quoted by the same bloke.TBF argueing about who had 50 fans more each is pointless but I must say I hoped for Longford sake a bigger crowd might have come out for a cup tie against the team on top of the premier div. on a nice night for football.
On the game,The first 20 mins saw the recent Rovers but as the first half wore on Longford got more and more into it.Second half was similar and it was clear Longford where more up for it than us.If you had more quality you might have won the game but unfortunetly for you,you didn't and Rovers played out the match willing to hit Longford on the break.You deserved your goal and I remarked at the time that it was coming but in the end you're scrappy one goal wasn't enough to beat our scrappy two goals.Maybe a draw would have been a fair result but as Rovers fans left the ground most were more happy with the result in a potentially tricky away fixture than how it was achieved.
Look at the remaining teams nthe cup for your gap between div. 1 and the premier.
PAts,Bohs,Rovers,Sligo,Bray and most likely Fingal(open to correction of course!!)while both Drogheda and Dundalk were knocked out by fellow prem. teams.Galway should also progress.
One swallow doesn't make a summer.
"Excellent" maybe how you would describe your experience but then you were in the home end.Don't get me wrong it wasn't that bad,it just could have been better.By all accounts the gate didnt open until something like 30 mins before kick off-And one portaloo for 500 or so men is far from excellent.
If fans of any club are too drunk to enter the stadium then its up to the very same officials you are congratulating for a job well done to prevent them doing so.
Quick tip-Most football fans will drink on buses to away grounds.Surely the stewards who are searching for god knows what at the stiles can tell who has over-stepped the mark?
P.S. Acornvilla,
Don't kid yourself into thinking that was Rovers first team on friday.No Murray,Rice,Stewart all players playing their best football of the season.O'Nell also handed a debut to yoiung McGuinness while we were 2 up so its a tad unfair to say say what you did re Fenn.
Fenn was brought to the club rightly or wrongly because he fulfills the attributes needed by the manager while playing a particular system,ala the unfit Dessie Baker.
Oh and no need for "" in your last sentence.Top of the league is generally a good barometer as to who is best,second best etc......at a particular point in time.Should we are "best" come November when it matters remains to be seen!!
I've been in Longford well over a dozen times at this stage I know the craic.
I'm well aware of the element Rovers bring with them aswell.
You know about as much about Limericks circumstances as a cat knows about his father.Quote:
You'll never know if you will ever have big crowds in Limerick unless you do something about it
Where in the name of God do I say anything of the kind??Quote:
You seem to think that if you had the same facility as SRFC you would have similar crowds
Short Memories LOLQuote:
the right people in charge
There you have it lads. The usual suspects. As in repeat offenders. Would Rovers do anything about it??Quote:
i have heard some of our own fans giving out about it with the usual suspects getting the blame.
Course not, it's the scumbag stewards "peering" that's causing all the hassle, shur the usual suspects are only having a laugh.
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The count I was told was give or take 60/40 Rovers.This is not an estimate.
i was not refering to you specifally but to most posters who like to pass poor comments after they have been away.
But i see you have done exactly as i said and not remarked on my substantive point about asking why is it that clubs feel it neccessary to obtain the services of bouncers when rovers come to town.
but you are right rovers have nothing to defend because they are renting a ground fair play to them and the best of luck,