I don't even know where to start with this.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
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I don't even know where to start with this.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
Yes, it's a typo Charlie. Working a 9 hour shift and then having to babysit will do that to a person.
A £14m player is keeping an £11m player on the bench for Scotland.
I don't think Keane or Walters Galaxy & Stoke transfer fees exceeded £10m.
There's the rub.
But I made a typo and that invalidates my opinion. :rolleyes:
Fletcher was £12 million, roughly the same as Long and McCormack. As Stutts said, transfer fees are a poor measure of worth to an international team, and the fact Southampton spent £12 million on Long is only indicative of how they rate him to perform a particular role in the team, one that McGeady performs more than well for us.
Transfer fees are an inferior measure of ability per se. Salary expenditure is a much better predictor of success (and, thus, a more reliable indicator of ability).
If Keane (and Keogh) prove me wrong on Friday I will eat humble pie but if they don't, I am going to be vociferous about it.
does Austria at home count? Long was up front with Sammon, Walters on the wing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
No, statto, that doesn't count. Give yourself a twenty minute suspension for that question.
Very true, there are some who laughed and said Roy Keane would never make it in football.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
Look at him now, assistant manager at Villa, they are not laughing anymore.
I love the old Bob Monkhouse line: people laughed when I said I was going to be a comedian. They're not laughing now!
Or Groucho Marx's one:
"From the moment I picked up your book until I laid it down, I was convulsed with laughter. Some day I intend reading it."
Product placement and product pricing, supply and demand, are we really arguing that here now?
Even if you take that into consideration you could also argue against depreciation and why some products depreciate more/faster/greatly.
There are always some over-inflated prices, but as a whole it is more than an indicitive indicator.
Huh??
What's the threshold of proof?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
What if they both play ok? Are we then to assume that another selection would have been better? There's no counterfactual unfortunately. If both have stinkers you'll have a point, but then again, as DeLorean pointed out you don't have a monopoly on your concerns.
He has a monopoly on being right though, and he is, most often.
Stutts I am not going to bother explaining that one, posts are often picked on for flawed logic, but more often than not on here the exception is taken as the rule and applied to the post as the norm. Like any product, most often you pay for what you get.
I'm guessing you're talking about Long's transfer value? Still not sure because it is such a strange post.
As for TOWK having a monopoly on being right, I seriously suggest you go back and read the many concurring and well presented arguments made by many others, others who don't engage in sophistry or evasion or selective amnesia. I take exception to that comment.
Ah yes thanks for the reminder, I had forgotten where I stole it from.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Incidentally Bob's joke book did go missing once, however who ever stole it returned it, obviously unimpressed.
A police spokesman said the theft was none the less no laughing matter.
Scores Stoke's third against a very sorry Arsenal.
it's his 100th career club goal, according to Stoke City's twitter
arsenal got 2 back and not over yet
Yes it is. Come on Stoke!!!
So a goal and 1 and a half assists? I think one clear assist and the other one he provided the main ball in for the other?
Anyhow he has climbed up the stats table to 80th, he seems to in good form, I was not always his biggest
fan but happier to see his name on the team sheet now.
Great pro and always gives a whole hearted performance for Ireland.
Talking of great pros, Richard Dunne is up to 26th in the stats, very few Irish players have got to that level in recent years, indeed in a good
number of years. He is 2nd in the Premiership in blocks per game.
Probably quite high up on own goals too, but I won't mention that, but actually is you are
getting a lot of blocks in the odd own goal is inevitable.
If he is blocking nearly 2 shots per game (1.7) that is about 50 blocks per season and it is inevitable
one will deflect in now and again but if he was not blocking them a hell of a lot more goals would
have been scored.
He does have one own goal to his name though.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/...-city-football
Article on the Guardian dedicated to Walters. In essence, it's complimentary. Maybe it ignores the fact that some degree of skill is required to get the goals he manages to score- his record ain't all that bad for a player who players either behind a front man or to the right of one (4-1-1, 4-3-3).
Either way, he's been tireless for Ireland. I take my hat off to him.
Yes a true professional. He reminds me of players from past times in that he always wants to turn up regardless even if injured. I think he was ruled out of a home friendly one summer and then returned for the next game in America a week or so afterwards. Not many if any would do that today. It also seems Mark Hughes is very fair towards players playing for the national teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
He has missed several friendlies in debatable circumstances in the past, notwithstanding.
I also appreciate his endeavour and graft but you need a bit more than running around a lot; case in point Scotland.
Now I appreciate he has had some pretty good games for Ireland recently but if someone can't be trusted to do the basics of pressing and covering their full backs then they shouldn't be playing Intl. football.
All things said, he's having some Indian summer with Stoke. The fans opinions on him have gotten softer post Pulis era.
Apologies I wasn't aware of missed friendlies in debatable circumstances.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
Only debatable circumstances I can remember is when he was excused the US trip to go to a wedding with the other Stoke players.
There was confusion during Trap's tenure too, when Trap said he didn't show up. Walters / Stoke had already emailed a scan to the Irish doctor though, showing a shoulder injury. Something like that. Communication on these matters was a fiasco when Trap was there.
There was confusion initially about Walters' whereabouts (and some other Stoke players) before a Nations Cup game (was it against NI or Scotland?), but I think that was all cleared up to everyone's satisfaction. Didn't Tardelli reassure us all that everything was OK then? Walters was genuinely injured with a shoulder problem; there was no debate. There was just a communications issue.
He didn't miss just one squad gathering..
Well perhaps then you could furnish us with the details instead of needlessly dragging it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
This is absolutely disgraceful. I don't pull you up on much but there is absolutely zero and utter need to query... I'm gonna be careful what I call it, desire, passion.. either way you'll call it misinterpretation such is your desire to rely on semantics when you criticize a player and you are called out. Walters gives nothing short of 100%.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
you heard them TOWK, I'm going to insist you explain yourself. And in future, you're going to have to stop ignoring questionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
I think I'll take a back-seat and enjoy this one play out...
http://x3.cdn03.imgwykop.pl/c3201142...FNi0ORFjbA.gif
I don't tend to call this chap out but that insinuation is utterly baffling. Seeing the effort Walters puts in when he's asked to play an auxiliary right-hand role (supporting defence, supporting attacks at the same time) demonstrates his commitment.
The tactic of dropping a comment with all sorts of insinuations, waiting for the inevitable negative reaction and responding by crying misinterpretation seems to be a personal favourite for TOWK.
To be honest, I wouldn't start now. It's bad for your health! :dazed:Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
I recall in-depth discussion over Walters' absence(s) back in 2011, so I've had a look back and think SvD's post here in response to the stirring Murfinator summed matters up pretty well: http://foot.ie/threads/152510-Should...=1#post1517628
There were some posts too in Marc Wilson's thread as well as Glenn Whelan's about the Stoke players who were originally feared to be AWOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
I see. I'm sure you agree it's hardly anything incriminating on Walters' part?Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Amazing how it was even mentioned in the context of that article. I'm going to take your advice and mind my health.
I agree completely. Totally inappropriate to even bring it up. I have no gripe with Walters and no issues with his commitment. It's typical stirring from TOWK; just throws in an innuendo-laden grenade with a completely rash statement and lets it fester. No doubt, he'll somehow try to feign innocence (if he even decides to engage with the responses).Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé