To be fair, the lino gave this as offside rather then a kick-outQuote:
Originally Posted by Lamper.sffc
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To be fair, the lino gave this as offside rather then a kick-outQuote:
Originally Posted by Lamper.sffc
Absolutely delighted!! 3 more points and giving us a good push to get back in the chase by the time the break is over.
game ended as expected handy 3-0 win for the saints,
thought we failed to get out of 1st gear 2nite, bray did have a few decent half chances
i liked the look of the number 11, kelly?? seemed decent
i feel sorry for bray fans, fair play to those who travelled out 2nite.
Amond notched up another one :) lovely stuff man.
Good game in Tallaght last night. End to end with both teams trying to win it at the death. Though we should have killed it off way before that. First half we were superb and completely controlled the game. 2nd half Rovers obviously came into it a lot more but we still had the chances to kill it off when we went 1-0 up. Fair play to Darius though. We're a totally different animal now.
I think, maddeningly, that Dundalk's defeat an be traced back to Friday's debacle in the cup which left 3 players suspended from a small squad. Dundalk were excellent in the first half and should have had the game wrapped up. Early in the second half an injury forced a sub and we only had kids on the bench. Midfield was conceded immediately and fair play to Fingal they took advantage. Both teams playing football for the most part, which was nice. Tom Connolly... shudder.
RTE seem to have given the first goal to Amond but I think Ventre got it. He certainly celebrated like he hadQuote:
Originally Posted by Ciaran W
It was announced at the game as Ventre, alternatively RTE's report is pretty detailed, alot of info in a short space of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
Quickest League goal in the UCD Bowl. Sligo Rovers the only team UCD havn't taken points off.
Sligo Rovers deserved their win, we never got the penetration we needed to catch them up. Although we saw alot of the ball.
Chris Mulhall had a great game out on the left wing and when his crosses did land to a UCD player we shot from distance over the bar.
Trademark double substitution on 55 minutes. Evan McMillan hit the bar in the second half, maybe if it went in.
Good crowd supporting Sligo, alot of colours being worn aswell.
Every team has now played each other, so finally, finally the League table is representative of performance. UCD have to watch both ends of the table at once.
Buttimer was 25- 30 yards away from the Shelley"peno" and could not have have had a clear view. I thought he was going directly to book Sheppard for diving as well. If distance was Buttimers excuse for that crap decision, he was perfectly placed for his other howlers, including those mentioned above (two yellows or straight red for Killian would have been justified, O `Donnells midfield assault on Brennan in the second half was also a straight red imo). I enjoyed the game though, despite the ref and the equally incompetent assistants. I think Galway could catch UCD if they can hold on to their players in the transfer window.Quote:
Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy
Its getting harder every week lad :(Quote:
Originally Posted by danthesaint
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Originally Posted by danthesaint
Jake Kelly.
He's going to be a class player.
Hopefully we can hold on to him for a while!
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Originally Posted by superjohnny
:-o
Happy with our hanging onto 3rd going into the break. Last night was tough enough for us with so many injuries so I hope we get our squad back fit in time for the restart.
Great game in Tallaght. Bad, erratic referreeing - but we don't expect anything else.
There were two older Sligo fans in front of me; I got the feeling they were reserve taem coaches or involved in some official capacity from talking to them. They called it straight away as a red - said the studs were up, end of story. Our player had to be subbed off, so I don't think you can use the "Won the ball" argument - the point is that those sort of tackles can cause serious injury, so you clamp down on them even if they don't. That said, I was surprised to see a red given alright.Quote:
Originally Posted by dong
Bit of a strange game. Sligo were set up very attacking - I don't think I've ever seen a team line up 4-2-4 before, which is more or less what they did when they had the ball. Closed us down very high up the pitch too, but still managed to get bodies back to defend, which was impressive. And yet for all that, they only scored from two keeping mistakes, and we hit the bar.
I think we'd have been in fourth had we won. Instead, we're thankful for late equalisers against Drogheda and Galway.
I didn't think it was a red either, Keane seemed to win the ball and his following leg caught the UCD lad. I don't think it was Keane's fault he was down for so long, he think it was the way he hit the ground, he fell awkwardly. Have to say that Mulhall lad is quality, absolutely raped Dav every time he had the ball, we really struggled against him. Very impressed with the UCD team, they probably have the best midfield in the league. Wasn't sure about Bolger's red (or second yellow or whatever), wasn't watching. Was looking at two lads in front of me with the same haircuts, considering the style myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
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Originally Posted by poster
Bolger's red was for a second yellow; he followed through on the keeper when cutting in along the by-line. From watching it on the video (haven't watched the Sligo red yet, but it'll be up on YouTube later this week), it looked a little bit harsh - didn't seem to be much in the way of connection, but it did look careless when already on a yellow. At worst, I'd say the two reds balanced each other out; they were more for what could have been done rather than what was done.
Mulhall was superb first half until it came to making a telling pass. The bit where he got your number 3 booked was quality; turned him two or three times in the one go, got away and was just hauled back. He faded badly in the second though. Don't know was it cos he was far side of me and I didn't notice as much or did ye have someone new on him or did your 3 just improve an awful lot at the break.
No I think Davoren just got wise to him. The more I think about the win, the more happy I am.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Just didn't think they UCD got the ball to him as much in the second half. Funny seeing Ndo telling Dillon and Davoren how they should mark him towards the end of the first half.Quote:
Originally Posted by poster
Ndo while a lot of his flicks didn't come off worked his socks off I thought.
Ndo was quietly superb. Rarely gave the ball away, and was regularly involved at both ends of the pitch.
I would suggest that making "Tallaght" a variable in that sentence(insert ground as appropriate) you could apply this to almost every LOI game :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Straightstory
Pity Delaney/FAI are only concerned about refs when it is a World Cup match.
What is the situation with Cretaro at Bohs?
Is he still suspended or injured? I'd say Madden has cemented his place alongside Byrne up front so I'm sure he'll only play a bit part from now on if he isn't offloaded by Fenlon.
He has hardly set Dalymount alight anyways.
Not that I would want the little dirtbox back anyways after his carry on kissing the crest and then his interview after the cup final last year. His ego is bigger than himself.
The Tubber Tornado couldn't make it in the big shmoke eh??:D
He had surgery on his shins a while ago. He was "forced" to play with us and big bad Paul Cook wouldn't let him have the surgery. Alot of Rovers fans said he'll be back by August, I don't see it at all, he seems to be doing well in what he has done in Dalymount and the Bohs fans seem to like him, they even stole our song for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by dong
what poster said.
cant wait to get him back from his injury lay-off to be honest. Has quickly become a crowd favourite in Dalymount after his vital goals in our early season bit of form. I think with him and McGlynn back we might start playing well again.
I was impressed by Cretaro against us in Belfield, Bohs were much better when he came on.
This bitterness towards Raf ill never understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by dong
One rule for him and then we have open threads pushing Shamey Coleman for beatification.
I know which player has done more for our club and which will continue to attend our games when the playing days are over.
Either way both players moved for either money or the chances of playing at a bigger stage or probably both.
Raf has done enough throughout his career for us to at least not have to be abused by Rovers fans.
I hope all the success for him at Bohs just as long as they arent playing us.
There is no comparison between the two situations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rasputin
Coleman went to Everton and who could blame him. The rewards for playing at the highest level in England are massive add to that real prospects of playing for Ireland and possibly at a world cup.
Raf went to Bohs for a few bob extra and behaved like a scumbag as I outlined with his carry on on the day of the cup final, that's what bugs me as a Sligo man. The tone of my post may have suggested otherwise but I have no bitterness towards him and can appreciate his contribution in his last season with us. His goals saved us from relegation.
Apologies for dragging the thread off topic.
Firstly whether we like to say it or not Raf had better opportunities at Bohs than with us, just like with Coleman an Everton only to a lesser degree so that arguement is a no brainer.Quote:
Originally Posted by dong
Secondly I fail to see how he acted like a scumbag. Raf is an absolute gentleman in and out of football.
Even if he did act like a scumbag after the cup final I wont be judging him on one week of a career where he spent his best footballing years with us and ran his socks off for our club week in week out when few else did.
Remember he was the lad that slogged it out for the club when we were in the quagmire of the first division, even rejecting offers from Premier Division clubs such as pats.
He even came back to our club after being forced out of it to Galway, no bitterness with the way he was treated even though many would.
He is heading into the twilight of his career and wants to win something, whether we like it or not Bohs offer a better platform than ourselves for silverware and of course more money since after all this is his career.
Never the less for all the effort he has given our club throughout the years he deserves a shot at the title and I dont begrudge him that.
Your right that Coleman and him are no comparison, Raf has done it all for our club while Coleman just used us a springboard to bigger things.
Correct Poster, he had surgery to clear up issue with shinsplints which was limiting his participation in the X1 (hence lots of sub apperances). Used his suspension and mid season break to limit games missed (shows how much he is rated at Dalyer) Cant wait to see him back as he was by far the best of our "new" signings. Far better player than I rated him at Sligo to be honest (limited viewing etc). I understand Raf has settled in well at Dalymount and would be amazed if he goes anywhere in the close season.Quote:
Originally Posted by poster
There's a few points there that I wouldn't agree with and you've been kind to Raf in how you perceive things went but sure you're entitled to think and believe what you like about him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rasputin
I'd rather forget about Raf now, but:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rasputin
Pat's never offered him a deal, they were just interested in the player that was getting rave reviews when were finishing 6th every year in FD under D 'OR.
Raf left Rovers because of the manager that was there at the time, the manager in question left and he came back in '07. Was nothing to do with Rovers treating him badly, it was bad man management from the manager at the time.
I don't think you can really say Coleman 'used' Rovers as a 'spring-board' to get to bigger things. We're largely unknown in England and I think if it was the case that he went to a L1/lower Champ team then you could say he was using that team as a spring-board.
Raf's move to Shams in August last year was blocked for whatever reason and Raf had a hissy fit over it. His form started to drop around that time when we played Cork in the cup and we saw him having strops and more hissy fits at refs and his own players during play.
He has done some great things with the club and was my favourite player up to half way through last year, but the way he conducted himself on and off (from what I've heard, and I can only go on what I hear) the pitch really put me off him.
This forum is going to be awfully quiet for the next 3 weeks :(
Well I heard differently but im open to being proven wrong on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by poster
Irrelevant.Quote:
Raf left Rovers because of the manager that was there at the time, the manager in question left and he came back in '07. Was nothing to do with Rovers treating him badly, it was bad man management from the manager at the time.
Everybody knows it was Mc Donalds fault that he left but the board okayed it and the end result was the same.
Alot of players would have and could have used this as a gripe against their former club but he didnt.
Of course it was a spring board to Everton.Quote:
I don't think you can really say Coleman 'used' Rovers as a 'spring-board' to get to bigger things. We're largely unknown in England and I think if it was the case that he went to a L1/lower Champ team then you could say he was using that team as a spring-board.
It was a better shop window for the player than St Catherines because its a well known fact English clubs monitor the League over here.
But saying that I dont begrudge the lad his chance with Everton just like I dont begrudge Raf his chance with Bohs.
We could go into great detail about the general amount of apathy and un-professionalism around the club last season including current players at the club.Quote:
Raf's move to Shams in August last year was blocked for whatever reason and Raf had a hissy fit over it. His form started to drop around that time when we played Cork in the cup and we saw him having strops and more hissy fits at refs and his own players during play.
But I notice these players are no longer singled out for stick any more like Raf is.
What certainly cant be commented on is Raf's performances last season, without him we would have been relegated simple as that.
He was one of the few players to actually try last season and when you looked across our squad and the un-professionalism in it (we all know the storys) is it any wonder he started getting stroppy around players who took the p!ss.
I heard some storys but nothing to warrant the bitterness directed at him from some Rovers fans now.Quote:
He has done some great things with the club and was my favourite player up to half way through last year, but the way he conducted himself on and off (from what I've heard, and I can only go on what I hear) the pitch really put me off him.
But like I said im not judging him from a week at the end of the season or the last half of last season, im judging him on his many years he has spent running his socks off for our club.
We should be so lucky to ever get another player like him.
Galway and Bohs is on setanta now :D
It was Sean Connor who let him go. McDonald signed him back at the start of '07.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rasputin
I still don't think a player can use a LoI club as a spring-board to sign for a Premier League club. Maybe for a L1 or Championship club.
Could be right there, I cant remember tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by poster
Of course they can and do.Quote:
I still don't think a player can use a LoI club as a spring-board to sign for a Premier League club. Maybe for a L1 or Championship club.
We could list the numerous players who have gone this route,