I am totally confused but I would hate to think what John Russell thinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rory H
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I am totally confused but I would hate to think what John Russell thinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rory H
Looks like the Turner to Shamrock Rovers deal may be dead in the water after we today signed Robert Bayly.
http://gdtww.wordpress.com/2010/03/1...-out/#more-143
That'd be ironic. I wonder is he in danger of a signficant ban or something?. He could end up back at Sligo yet!.
We've appealed the decision on Turner being a free agent.
You guys dont need turner now, that bayly lad is top quality player, was wondering where he ended up. He is a top signing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jicked
Thats great news good to see we have the balls to stand up to the FAI after being threatened with an audit.Quote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
Bayly's an emergency signing. ROvers were looking at any attacking players for cover, and he was about as good as it got (and considering he couldn't find a deal elsewhere, thats not saying much)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jicked
Your talking outta your hoop dodge
MON had bayley as back up for the turner deal. he is imo the better player anyway so thats good
the turner shenanigans has got too messy now so let him go back to sligo and earn his under/over the table payment.
like placid says this is a replacement for Turner, not attacking cover for Twigg/Baker. Turner deal became too messy, and it's no surprise that we sign Bayly the day Sligo decide to appeal the Turner arb. That's another few weeks before we could sign Turner, it's just not getting worth it. Could be a very bad mistake by Sligo if they lose the appealQuote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Yeah, good one. Why is it Sligo fans on here seem to do nothing but come out with rubbish 'digs' like that, and then quickly "thank" each other for them as quick as they can?
The deal's been polluted by Sligo's carry on anyway, and I really can't see why they're going to appeal the decision. Unless they were doing so to frustrate him signing for Shamrock Rovers out of spite? I mean, best case scenario is whatever point of law they're (attempting) the challenge on is somehow ruled in their favour. What then? The initial arb already left them with getting their €5k. They're not going to get damages out of Turner, they could never possibly have gotten damages from Shamrock Rovers. There's 0% chance of a valid contract being upheld with Sligo and forcing Turner to play for them. No court or quasi-judicial body in the land would agree to that, so they won't be putting him in their team, or getting a transfer fee from another club for him. So what are they appealing for? If they feared the disciplinary action from the FAI mentioned in the original arb verdict, surely their books are clean and they've nothing to worry about?
Expect to see Turner sign for Galway in the summer when Connors has managed to get a few bob from somewhere to afford him.
Why is it Shamrock fans come on here with the moral high gound when they would still be homeless pi*sing around in the 1st Division if they hadnt got a Stadium and fanbase handed to them.
Hey hey, there's another one boys, crack out the oul thanks button!
You're right though, thank god we got Tallaght 'handed' to us in 2009 (I await your next post where we're "rentboys" with much anticipation) otherwise we'd never have got out of the First Division in 2006. Top bit of deduction that, and it really has been illuminating to the topic at hand. I'm ever so sorry for claiming the moral high ground by suggesting Turner might sign for Galway and wondering why Sligo were going to appeal. That moral high horse takes some beating eh.
*goes off to find the ignore button*
No..no retort..not going to get into a tit for tat slagging match with ya...i dont know you im sure your a decent guy and your sticking up for your club as any of us would..its just i loathe your club and manager...Just to clarify my point..had ye not got Tallaght and the huge increase in attendances and the obvious financial implications that brought ye would not be in the position ye are in now to challenge for honours..i dont remember seeing crowds that big in Tolka and the various other places ive had to go to see your "home" matches.
as for Turner ye can have him.
Lads trust me, the Bayly deal is defo an emergency. He was only contacted after several others wanted more money. He only had his medical today. Rovers needed to sign a free agent, and Bayly fitted the bill. Ask the lad himself
Oh I'm not saying it isn't a deal rushed through, but he's been rushed through to replace Turner, not to replace our lack of attacking options (even though he is an attacking midfielder). I can't see who the several others we contacted would have been though, there aint a lot left on the free transfer market that Rovers would have gone to before Bayly.
Fair enough, several others might be overstating it but at least two were approached (One I know pretty well)
Out of contract League of Ireland midfielders I presume?
Ons striker, one attacking midfielder.
To be fair from what i've seen of Bayly he's a talented player & on the face of it Rovers appear to have done a nice bit of business there, whether or not he's there to replace Turner is another thing altogether though i'd imagine had the Turner deal gone through trouble free its a signing they'd have unlikely bothered with. Given the lack of striking options i'm suprised they havent gone for a striker, though i did see Thomas Stewart formerly of Derry City being mentioned in one of the papers this morning so perhaps Dodge is right and a few last minute deals are being rushed through, wouldnt suprise me at all as theres alot of pressure on Rovers this year IMO to deliver silverware & starting with one recognised striker isnt the smartest way to go about it.
Bayly training with Rovers weeks and weeks ago before going to Blackpool on trial. He played very well against us in the two cup games last season. A good addition to any teams squad.
bhs
Except Finglas, who released him. (and BTW he'd absolutely improve our current squad. He was training with Pats all last pre-season (2009) but went to Fingal as we couldn't offer him the right deal)Quote:
Originally Posted by blackholesun
MON in today's sun saying that he still wants turner to sign. So that deal is not dead to rovers obviously. That is some midfield you lads will have. Rovers also linked with stewart former linfield striker?Quote:
Originally Posted by blackholesun
Ohh indeed, how dare we question "the model club".Quote:
Originally Posted by Jicked
Would you rather we bow or grovel when we hand Turner over?
For once im glad that the board have finally got the spine to stand up to the FAI.
Yeah, cos it could never be the case that Sligo fecked up here, could it?
Occam's razor - the simplesy solution is often the correct one. Either - the FAI, in liege with the reverse vampires who don't want to set out to away games before sunset, and also with the aim of creating a Leinster league to cut down on travel costs to aid Bohs, aided another Dublin side in order to further damage the good and virtuous Sligwegians by making up trumped charges against a player, or - Sligo fecked up and are getting what they deserve.
Why is that no-one here will ever, ever, countenance the possibility that their own club is anything less than perfect?
All we can do is judge a club by its past activity as it is generally a fair indication of what the present situation and the future may hold.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
The past financial dealings of Sligo Rovers has been straight and consistent.
We meet our players wages every week, we pay our Taxes and we even made a 6 figure profit last season.
All this creates a trust in our board and the way it is run.
Now shall we have a run down of Shams financial activity over the past decade?
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Originally Posted by pineapple stu
very fair point while the whole affair has increased my dislike of Shamrock,their manager and the player involved it also appears to me Rovers may not be beyond reproach and there is no point being blind to that..
You don't remember two years ago - "We need E100k in two weeks to survive", followed two weeks later by "Thanks for the E100k - now we need E100k by the end of the season to survive"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rasputin
Aside from that, your post is nonsense. You judge a case by the facts, and the fact is that Sligo are the ones under investigation here, not Rovers. What Rovers' previous owners did is of no relevance to the facts here.
Can any of the Sligo fans delighted with the appeal tell me what they expect from it?what do you think your club has to gain from it?Is it worth the risk?do you even see a risk?In my opinion your club has just scored a big og and will get hammerd over the slightest thing now such as ticketing.
Perhaps they heard as I did (from a source close to the Shams board) that MON told the porn star "I want to sign you but get out of that Sligo contract". Admittedly now the sh1t has hit the fan I suspect some amnesia among shams but while Sligo did appear to be at best naive in their dealings with Turner there is no way shams are whiter than white in this case and no amount of preaching about the errors of others (if only they gave a throphy for that ) will change that.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoversHead
Marino im not interested,any Sligo fans on who are not just into a slagging match?
whoops, worried that someone might know something that went on at shams ? perhaps you were all too busy watching affairs at Dalymount to notice it :D I know it happens but my point is that shams are hardly whiter than white when the manager encouraged a player to get out of a previous contract - no rules broken (I think) but morally not great.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoversHead
Oh Dear, more of the guessing game rather than hard fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinobohs
I fully acknowledged that i did not hear it directly but it was from a Shams fans that has links with the board. As i said it was mentioned to me before the whole shams/sligo debacle blew up and was not seen as that important .Quote:
Originally Posted by superjohnny
feel free to believe/ disbelieve as you see fit but it has more substance that a lot of stuff in this thread.
To be fair you could change the player & the clubs & the sentiment would be the same the world over, football supporters are fickle at the best of times & we've all been guilty of allowing changing situations to cloud our judgements & opinions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rovers fan
Sligo announced before the Cup Final they had signed Turner, obviously using some of the ticket sale money to fund his signing on fee.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinobohs
They signed him on an form that the FAI later refused to accept.
They then lost the Cup Final.
They then supposedly offered Turner a lower deal.
Cant really blame him for having second thoughts, can you?
bhs
Obviously, ya?Quote:
Originally Posted by blackholesun
The finalist don't receive any of the proceeds from ticket sales. Surely the "cup specialists" know this? I don't know where ye are pulling this lower contract offer out. Ye supposedly then offered him a monkey dipped in curry sauce. Can't really blame him for having second thoughts, can you?
still no takers,the silence is deafening.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoversHead
I can see no point in appealing the original decision. There is no benefit from it from what I can see. Only creating trouble for ourselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoversHead
Thanks Dong ,just curious as to why its being celebrated by some.
Anyone know the basis for the appeal ?Quote:
Originally Posted by dong