Ah sure Hughton and Lawrenson only played with us cos they wouldnt get near an England team and Brady was only good cos his mother was english;)Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
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Ah sure Hughton and Lawrenson only played with us cos they wouldnt get near an England team and Brady was only good cos his mother was english;)Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
nothing to do with Moran's quality so?Quote:
Originally Posted by yapster
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Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Hughton wanted to play for Ireland and considers himself Irish, it's the "granny" ****e I object to as I've said. Lawrenson is English and considers himself English ad he made the decision at Preston and later regretted it as he went on to great sucess at Liverpool. I just mentioned the fact that Bradys mom is English.
And you are basing this on what exactly???Quote:
Originally Posted by yapster
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Originally Posted by elroy
Asked in 1986 would he have liked to be going to Mexico with England,he said he would in a heartbeat but he had made his decision to play for Ireland cos he thought it would further his career. Now I commend Lawrenson because he was a great player for Ireland because of his proffessional integrity.
Mickey Walsh said the same year that he's following his 'heart' and saying England will win the WC.
Definitely think there is merit to staying with the LOI clubs for a couple of years, if not just to stop young lads coming over without any proper parental supervision and getting stuck in to the demon drink.Quote:
Originally Posted by elroy
Remember meeting loads of the Young Forest Irish players in a bar in Nottingham watching the Ireland v Iran away game (Keith Foy, David Freeman and a few other characters) - they were all ruined and looked like they were constantly on the tear, boasting how they regularly defied Paul Hart's instructions to stay in. They had Andy Reid on the phone mocking him for being the only one who stayed in that night (I bet he's gutted). Ended up getting battered giving them a lecture about how they were "the future of Irish football and had one chance" like some sort of p*ssed up football supporting Eminem in Eight Mile, before contributing to their ultimate demise by ordering them all a round of doubles. Great days.
How many other similar talents have fallen by the wayside? Keiron Brady (although he did actually make it to be fair - before being diagnosed with liver trouble), Tony Sheridan at Coventry and more recently Kevin Thornton. Even Keith Andrews nearly fell by the wayside after getting a bit too fond of the Emerald Club in Wolverhampton when the gaelic was on. I know that the FAI are looking to rectify this as they have recently appointed Terry Conroy (ex-stoke striker) to look after the young kids who have just come over to ensure that they are catered for and fitting in OK.
If coaching is an issue in the LOI - maybe some sort of centre of excellence is needed for the best young players to train (there was some talk of this - is this no longer going ahead). What are the coaching standards like - is there a similar FA coaching badge accreditation?
Back on topic, it appears that both Wolves and Sunderland are both after Stephen Hunt, who are skint and in desperate need to reduce their wage bill. Hope to God we get him and can't understand why we didn't go for him at the start of the season. Seems that it could have legs as Phil Brown has been quoted on BBC Humberside saying that two clubs are interested and one bid has been rejected. Sounds to me as if they are trying to stoke up interest and create a bidding war as there was no outright condemnation of the bids.
http://www.hullcityindependent.net/?...d=3&news_id=76
Darragh Sheridan I'd say. Played for Galway and Longford Town a few years ago and ran further education schemes for young players returning from England.Quote:
Originally Posted by elroy
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Originally Posted by Manc Irish Wolf
Good post Manc but whether they stay in Ireland or not it's down to Personal Responsibity at the end of the day.
The coaching standards in Ireland are crap and you got the likes of Don Givens running the U21's ffs. There are plenty young kids in Ireland playing soccer and there is talent to be trawled but the whole structure from top tp bottom of the FAI is a joke.You see how they ran the International squad for years so you can only imagine how inept it was down the ranks. It is a good idea to help the kids settle abroad and I hope it helps.
Phil Brown has dismissed the a rumour linking Stephen Hunt with Wolves though: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/st...722183&cc=5739
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Originally Posted by yapster
In fairness to you on this one, I read a different comment with similar connetations from Lawrenson a few years ago. Basically that he committed to Ireland too soon, before he realised the career he was about to have. Went off him big time afterwards. I mean ye can think those things but to openly say it..... Also You need to work on your WUMMING too, dude. Amatuer stuff!!! Compared to Ealing Green you're in the Hay'penny place!!!!
I think the bridge between the LOI and Schoolboy set up is a Huge factor here. I fail to see why the Pats, Bohs of this world don't have a school boy set up of the Calibre of Cherry Orchard or something at this stage of the game. A fliud conveyer will keep more players in the country and maintain the interest of many more talented players that don't catch the eye across the water by 14,15 or 16.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manc Irish Wolf
The Doc has been telling us about that long before it was even in the papers, hes definately his agent I reckon:)Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Well I'm a gent, but not an agent! I'm just a fan with my ear to the ground!Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Preston have warned Celtic they will not land Sean St Ledger on the cheap after claiming the Hoops were nowhere near meeting their valuation of the player.
The Glasgow giants have reportedly offered £1.25million with £500,000 in add-ons for the Republic of Ireland international - well short of Preston's £3million valuation of the 25-year-old.
Preston chairman Derek Shaw told the Sunday Mail: "Celtic's offer was way below our valuation. There's no way we'd accept anything near the figure put to us. We are not being greedy. Sean is an established internationalist and players of his calibre come at a price."
He added: "I know a Championship club that has put a £4million price tag on a defender who only has six months left on his contract.
"But we understand Sean wants to play at a higher level and has his international career to think of. So the ball is in Celtic's court."
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukp...Nx2h13GvB3hg7A
Apparently Strachan is lining up Wes Hoolahan as a replacement for Adam Johnson and has agreed a deal to bring in Willo Flood.
If true, could be good moves for us as they are only just off the play-offs and wouldn't be surprised to see them make a late surge, so we could have a couple of additions to our Premiership Numbers next season.
Then again I did read it in the Star, so it is probably completely unfounded.
Flood is definitely wanted by Strachan and Mowbray would be glad to offload him, so that one has legs, though it might be on a Loan deal as Strachan is in for Caldwell, Robson and McDonald as well - he wont be 'buying' them all.
Celtic have just bought a central defender from the league champions here in Sweden. Seems to rule out a move for St Ledger.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
But personally I think it's interesting that Preston are so keen to get rid of him given their current league position.
and they had a very good defencive record aswell so i think this guy could be goodQuote:
Originally Posted by ifk101
Dont rule out McManus being shipped out as well as Caldwell though, so still room for manoeuvre though not at £3m PNE would have to come down in their vaulation. I agree its more unlikely now.
Celtic are said to be looking to sign 2 CB's, a bid of £2.5M plus £500k add ons and I think it would be a deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/...rgain-1.996884
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/footbal...6908-21951263/
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Originally Posted by the doc
Yep, as I said McManus is not required by Mowbray so can definitely see another CB coming in. However, Id be amazed if we splashed out £3m for one - we dont have the cash when other areas also need strengthening. A few quid in for McManus would help but I still think £2m to £2.5m would be our limit (may be with some add ons as you say).
Articles quoting fromer managers and team mates saying bargain at £4.5m is just tabloid nonsense really.
Rangers havent signed anybody for about 3 transfer windows. Celtic signed Fortune for £3.5m in the summer. We've just signed the South Korean lad for £2m and the CB from AIK for £1.5m. The money isnt in the Scottish game - This transfer needs to be funded by players leaving or it wont happen.
I take your point, but if Celtic want him, then they are going to have to pay what PNE want.Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/...edger-1.997718
Hope Sledge doesnt leave Preston, despite his not so good time at Boro, I can def see him with an EPL club in the not too distant future.
All the talk of center back signings for Celtic seems to be bad news for Darren O Dea, which Im a bit annoyed about because anytime he has played for Celtic he has done well but has never got a proper run of games
Flood having a medical at Middlesbrough according to Sky Sports News
Sheffield United linked with Mark Yeates: http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news...cle284933.html
Wolves linked with Stephen Hunt again: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...t-2009317.html
Few more updates from http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...262119910.html
- Celtic expected to make second bid for Sean St Ledger
- Willo Flood had a medical at Middlesbrough
- Darren O'Dea in talks with two English clubs for a loan move in the second half of the season
- Falkirk interested in taking Colin Healy on loan
- Brian Murphy damaged ankle ligaments in the warm up at the weekend, and could be out for a few weeks
agree. could never understand why this isQuote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Not sure what Mowbray really knows about O'Dea as he was shipped out only a couple of months after Mowbrays arrival. He did play in the pre-season games.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
It does seem strange that we have a young guy on a 3 year contract, who has performed at least reasonably well (some would argue better) who does not appear to be in Mowbrays thoughts as a possibility in resolving the CB problem.
The loan spell at Reading has not gone well, would be interesting to know what feedback Rodgers has provided Mowbray with on his performances, attitude, training etc....
Looks like another Loan spell for him though......
Darren O' Dea has done well for Celtic with limited opportunities and he is one of those centre backs with an eye for goal from set pieces. Its a bit surprising things have not gone better for him at Reading.
He has one or two weakness's though. I do not think he is quick and he is not the biggest for a centre back. I think his lack of pace stops him getting some games as a full back (Yes, I know he has played a few games at full back for Celtic, but just a few).
One thing that he has going for him is that centre backs are often late developers (reading the game, positional sense, and becoming a cute hoor)
But he needs to start making a breakthrough somewhere soon !!!
especially important :)Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
A few Turkish Clubs apparenlty interested in Billy Mehmet according to Sky Sports ( Gaziantepspor, Genclerbirligi and Kasımpasa)
On Soccer Saturday the guy at the match said that O'Dea was very poor and off the paceQuote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
I'd give Darren the benefit of the doubt on that game as he has hardly played since October. He didn't get many games at Reading during his loan spell. He wasn't originally due to play on Saturday but Loovens withdrew before the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by carloz
Darren was in the unusual situation that he was given a new contact at Celtic the day before he went out on loan - not the usual scenario if the club is trying to offload you. I think Mowbray wants him for the long-term but thinks he needs a bit more experience before becoming a first-team fixture (hence the ill-fated loan move).
I think Celtic will look elsewhere now!
http://www.lep.co.uk/pnenews/PNE-rul...bid.6001506.jp
I have to say as a Celtic fan Im glad. He's overpriced in my opinion.
If they are looking for the £4.5m that they agreed with Boro, well it can only be a Premiership side (or top side on the continent) and I havent heard much interest from them tpye of clubs - is there any Doc?
It's understood that on Wednesday, PNE turned down a bid from the Glasgow club of £2.5m plus £500,000 in add-ons.
I hope he gets a move for his and Irelands sake
Wilson linked with a loan move to celtic.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...lson-loan-deal
You heard it here first!
I think he'd be better of at Portsmouth for the moment. In football terms, at least. He probably won't be too happy when he has to wait an extra month for his wages for the 11th time.
Ipswich, Celtic and Bolton linked with moves for Kevin Kilbane: http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/spor...N-KILBANE.html
Keith Andrews linked with a swap deal for Alan Smith: http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/sport/new...9310-25669991/
Robbie Keane in a swap deal for Carlton Cole: http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/spor...LTON-COLE.html