David Meyler

Oh well. Even with a serious injury he'll still be more use to the side than Stephen Ireland.

Forget the RDS...and probably Armenia. V. sad for the kid.

http://www.safc.com/news/20100502/bo...256213_2041735

Very unfortunate for Meyler. A full international debut would have been a great way to end a good season. Here's hoping he makes a speedy recovery.

Oh Jesus it's his knee? Gulp.

Hopefully David has a full and speedy recovery.

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Originally Posted by Crosby87

Oh Jesus it's his knee? Gulp.

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yeah.. i knew it looked bad at least it was now (granted he wont get a chance with ireland just yet) i guess than the start of next season..

At least he's only 20 - will give him maximum chance of a speedy recovery. Gutted for him though, he could really have made a case for himself over the summer internationals.

Let's hope that's not the end of his career.

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Originally Posted by Colbert Report

Let's hope that's not the end of his career.

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although obviously very sad and unfortunate for the lad i wouldnt think his career is in jeopardy. he should make a good recovery from a crutiate injury within a reasonable period of time... could well be less than 6 months so i'd certainly expect to see him back well before xmas.

although serious, they dont seem to be the death-knell for careers that they once were. many top players have had them and returned in good time without any great affect on their levels of performances... roy keane obv, joe cole (think he might have had two?), robert pires, van nistelrooy, shearer, henrik larsonn, fat ronaldo, michael essien etc...

he'll probably be off to colorado to visit mr steadman

thankfully he got his 5 year contract signed last week. best of luck to him in his recovery

And has evreyone heard that Cork were supose to get 50k for Meyler when he was called up 2 the Ireland squad but since Cork hit ther wall evrey penny of that 50k will go to the tax. Its a discrase that money should go to the FAI and it should be spread out evenly amongst the clubs or just let the FAI use it in some way to benifit the league or just give it to Cork City Foras there basically the same club. But that money is going to end up with the govermant and when the GAA come calling for a grant that they dont need they will get it and if the FAI were 2 ask they would b told to jog on thats always the way its been and it always will be unfortunately

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Originally Posted by Kieran Burke

And has evreyone heard that Cork were supose to get 50k for Meyler when he was called up 2 the Ireland squad but since Cork hit ther wall evrey penny of that 50k will go to the tax. Its a discrase that money should go to the FAI and it should be spread out evenly amongst the clubs or just let the FAI use it in some way to benifit the league or just give it to Cork City Foras there basically the same club. But that money is going to end up with the govermant and when the GAA come calling for a grant that they dont need they will get it and if the FAI were 2 ask they would b told to jog on thats always the way its been and it always will be unfortunately

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keep it on topic Kienan ranting about the gaa has nothing to do with any of this.. yes its a shame old cork are dead and for a scoop wont get the money but if anything would sunderland not just be keeping the money?

anyone here in the know on the matter?

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Originally Posted by Kieran Burke

And has evreyone heard that Cork were supose to get 50k for Meyler when he was called up 2 the Ireland squad but since Cork hit ther wall evrey penny of that 50k will go to the tax. Its a discrase that money should go to the FAI and it should be spread out evenly amongst the clubs or just let the FAI use it in some way to benifit the league or just give it to Cork City Foras there basically the same club. But that money is going to end up with the govermant and when the GAA come calling for a grant that they dont need they will get it and if the FAI were 2 ask they would b told to jog on thats always the way its been and it always will be unfortunately

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Unless Cork City still owes it money, the FAI has no right to the money. Other clubs definitely don't have a right to it.

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Originally Posted by Kieran Burke

And has evreyone heard that Cork were supose to get 50k for Meyler when he was called up 2 the Ireland squad but since Cork hit ther wall evrey penny of that 50k will go to the tax. Its a discrase that money should go to the FAI and it should be spread out evenly amongst the clubs or just let the FAI use it in some way to benifit the league or just give it to Cork City Foras there basically the same club. But that money is going to end up with the govermant and when the GAA come calling for a grant that they dont need they will get it and if the FAI were 2 ask they would b told to jog on thats always the way its been and it always will be unfortunately

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The biggest disgrace is your sentence construction and spelling

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Originally Posted by Kieran Burke

And has evreyone heard that Cork were supose to get 50k for Meyler when he was called up 2 the Ireland squad but since Cork hit ther wall evrey penny of that 50k will go to the tax. Its a discrase that money should go to the FAI and it should be spread out evenly amongst the clubs or just let the FAI use it in some way to benifit the league or just give it to Cork City Foras there basically the same club. But that money is going to end up with the govermant and when the GAA come calling for a grant that they dont need they will get it and if the FAI were 2 ask they would b told to jog on thats always the way its been and it always will be unfortunately

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And Jesus wept.

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Originally Posted by Kieran Burke

And has evreyone heard that Cork were supose to get 50k for Meyler when he was called up 2 the Ireland squad but since Cork hit ther wall evrey penny of that 50k will go to the tax. Its a discrase that money should go to the FAI and it should be spread out evenly amongst the clubs or just let the FAI use it in some way to benifit the league or just give it to Cork City Foras there basically the same club. But that money is going to end up with the govermant and when the GAA come calling for a grant that they dont need they will get it and if the FAI were 2 ask they would b told to jog on thats always the way its been and it always will be unfortunately

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em, priorities?

Only that Kieran Burke writes more than one sentence in a post, I would have thought Yapster set up a new account.

all the best to David Meyler. Hope he makes a speedy recovery.

Really wish him well because I think he can go on to be a huge player for Ireland in the future.

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Is central midfield becoming a cause for optimism? Meyler has taken his chance well, Gibson is a fine player already with bags more potential, McCarthy has had an impressive run, whilst Whelan & Andrews have been getting better as a pairing. I hope the May training camp and friendlies will be used to good effect. Foley has been doing well at RHM for Wolves lately.

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It could be Stutt. The few lads I go to Ireland matches have completely changed their opinion on Glenn Whelan. Andrews looked weak for a large part of the campaign, then was very good in Paris, then faded when Whelan went off. Throughout the last campaign the options were limited, due to injury, form, or miscellaneous :-)! Whereas now, McCarthy, Meyler, Gibson to a lesser extent, have all had an extra season and offer an alternative. It's a real pity Chris McCann got injured early in the season, a years EPL experience could have been crucial, as he's a real prospect. Garvan is still in the background too.
So all in all, yes a cause for optimism.

It's a tough break for Meyler and for us, just at such an opportune time to get into the squad before a campaign.

I haven't seen Andrews play but at least he has been a solid regular for Blackburn.
I doubt if anything will change with Trap's CM, at least to start with.
Considering the choice now with all games being streamed, McCarthy is my default first choice to watch. He is an understated talent and only going in one direction.
I think he will make the Euro Qual squad and will gradually make his way into the first team like Duff did in the 02 WC qual campaign.

So what is the extent of Meyler's injury at this point, any word? I mean 'knee" could mean a lot of things. Knee cap like Terry Dixon? (God Forbid.) Ligament problem that will cost him 12 months? Or just a deep painful bruise? Or somewhere in between?

By the looks of things I would imagine Ligaments as there was a clear twist of the knee but no official word as of yet.

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It's a tough break for Meyler and for us, just at such an opportune time to get into the squad before a campaign.

I haven't seen Andrews play but at least he has been a solid regular for Blackburn.
I doubt if anything will change with Trap's CM, at least to start with.
Considering the choice now with all games being streamed, McCarthy is my default first choice to watch. He is an understated talent and only going in one direction.
I think he will make the Euro Qual squad and will gradually make his way into the first team like Duff did in the 02 WC qual campaign.

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I agree 100%, I was saying something similar in the training camp thread. Even if he impresses Trap in the camp and friendlies I can't see him starting the first few games in the campaign.
I reckon if both fit he will stick with Whelan and Andrews to start with and then if McCarthy gets a few compettive subs appearances under his belt he could play his way into the starting line-up.
Like you have been all saying a choice of Whelan and Andrews after the experience of a qualifying campaign with Gibson, Meyler, McCarthy and S. Reid, if he gets his fitness back, is a hell of a lot more encouraging than this time 2 years ago. I'm also still hoping that McCann and Garvan can come up to speed in the next year or two; both seem to be around for years but are still very young. Now all we have to hope for is that a decent left back comes out of the woodwork and Stokes and Best deliver on their promise.

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So what is the extent of Meyler's injury at this point, any word? I mean 'knee" could mean a lot of things. Knee cap like Terry Dixon? (God Forbid.) Ligament problem that will cost him 12 months? Or just a deep painful bruise? Or somewhere in between?

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I would say looking at the mechanism of injury that it's a likely anterior cruciate ligament rupture. The medial collateral ligament and the lateral meniscus are often also damaged in an ACL rupture, which would lengthen the recovery period. I think that owing to the severity of his pain, with him needing entonox coming off the pitch, that it looks like at least an ACL rupture, with the possibility of further knee damage.
I think we're looking at 9-12 months, which takes us up to February 2011 at the earliest.

I was wondering where The Doc went to! : )

Really feel for Meyler. It'll take him time after his injury to earn back his place and longer to rediscover his best form As he was still learning the ropes at EPL level he'll still be raw about the edges when he comes back. Assuming it is an ACL injury that's a year missing at a crucial strage in his development. There's never a good time to get injured but a couple of years down the line would have been better.

I suppose he's not in too bad a situation at Sunderland - they have Cana and Cattermole already, so they probably won't bring in any more ball-winning midfielders.

Confirmed rupture ligament for Meyler: http://www.safc.com/news/20100505/me...256213_2043698
He won't be playing football again this side of Christmas, get well soon David

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Confirmed rupture ligament for Meyler: http://www.safc.com/news/20100505/me...256213_2043698
He won't be playing football again this side of Christmas, get well soon David

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Is this a similar injury to the one Terry Dixon got?

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Is this a similar injury to the one Terry Dixon got?

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from what I remember, Terry Dixon's problems were more to do with his kneecap?
A cruciate tear is what Roy Keane, Niall Quinn and Alan Shearer have all suffered from. Nine months is the standard recovery period.

Hopefully by the time WC Quals rolls around, he will be playing again at full speed. 9 months to a year of recovery & Physical Therapy, then another year trying to work his way back in and be consistant if recent history of our fringe players in England is any indication.... After we miss Euro 2012 in heart breaking fashion, he will be one of the players that is in the plans of whoever the new manager is moving forward...

In the meantime maybe SI will come back. (Kidding,kidding.)

Does it still take 9 months to a year these days.

Or is that wishful thinking on my behalf.

horrible, horrible luck for the lad. A real shame as i had high hopes for him based on the last couple of months. We can only hope and pray his career doesnt go the same way as poor Colin Healy.

As I thought, he's not only done his ACL, but also torn his medial collateral ligament.

He's expected to be out for a year now

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Does it still take 9 months to a year these days.

Or is that wishful thinking on my behalf.

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did the cruciate myself twice a number of years ago. the problem can be that when the knee buckles at the time the ligament goes it can do all sorts of damage to cartilage and other ligaments. my physio boasted that he had someone back running three months after the op but usually best case is about 5 months or so. hate to be downbeat but the knee is never the same again and most people will have related problems with hip, hamstring etc as a result for the rest of their playing days.

i would think he will be out for 12 months and then face a period of picking up related injuries for a while

Meyler's own Facebook Status Update: "David Meyler My operation went very very well the Surgeon said so I'll be back in no time, you wait and see...thanks again for all the texts means an awful lot when you down and out!"
As good news as he could get, already sounds determined to be back asap... Best we could all hope for thus far...

Was reading on Aertel last night that Steve Bruce said that the injury was as bad as it could possibly be. The extent of the damage that was revealed when the surgeon opened the knee up has shocked everyone at the club but that the damage was all repaired. Really sounds like he is in for a long hard comeback, hope he is able to make a full recovery and as some else said doesnt end up like Colin Healy

Sunderland surprisingly sold Cana yesterday.. Just wondering if it's an indication of the faith Bruce has in him as a player and more importantly his faith in his recovery and prognosis.

It's probably more to do with Bruce having just signed Riveros from Paraguay. Cana was offered Champions League football in a country much closer to home, so Bruce probably just cut his losses and took a tidy profit on the transfer. He was a yellow card machine anyway which should make for a hilarious record in the CL.

Future looks bright for Meyler in any case if he recovers properly from his injury.

They didn't make any profit on the transfer, they bought him for five million pounds last summer and sold him for the same amount.