McCarthy drops 10 players for Man Utd and everyone is up in arms about it and then he drops 9 players for the Burnley game and nobody is complaining about that.....
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McCarthy drops 10 players for Man Utd and everyone is up in arms about it and then he drops 9 players for the Burnley game and nobody is complaining about that.....
very good:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Metrostars
:D Damned if you do, damned.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Metrostars
Liverpool away on the 26th, Man City home on the 28th, I wonder if McCarthy will put the reserves out for one or perhaps both of these games and save the first team for the banana-skin cup tie at Prenton Park on the 3rd.... he could just take the reserves up to Anfield on Boxing Day and leave them in a travelodge for a few days until the Tranmere game... :)
I doubt he cares about the cup, more likely to play the reserves in that game, survival is the name of the game for Bear Grylls McCarthy
He might only need the reserves on the 26th the way Liverpool are playing latelyQuote:
Originally Posted by cfdh_edmundo
Wolves should risk the under 12s team!!! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Roadend
Leeds, a Division One side, wins at Old T. Hmmmmm.
ah but Leeds are a top flight club in the naughty boys corner on a time out -and anyway Sir Alex gets a carte blanche on these matters. Looking over the rim of my (white) rose tinted specs for a sec it was worrying to witness how little of a grip of the game Darron Gibson got the other day. Mickey Doyle playing a full two divisions below would've impressed Trap more I daresay had he been there.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
You can't be serious about the part in bold. How many of the Leeds players have you heard of - besides Beckford and maybe Michael Doyle cause he's Irish?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie
It really does show how idiotic McCarthy was when he forfeited the game against United. The United team that started against Leeds was stonger than the one that played Wolves with the injured players back.
His point is that Leeds are a bigger club than their current division would suggest. Leeds going to Old Trafford and winning is nowhere as big a shock as any of the other League One sides doing so.Quote:
Originally Posted by lionelhutz
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Originally Posted by cheifo
Spot on :cool:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foot...rs/8521603.stm
I think this is a terrible decision. At least, McCarthy wants to move on but it is definitely the wrong message to send out, imo: big teams can squad rotate but small teams can't.
Agreed. Its a fairly small punishment but its the fact that the likes of united and liverpool and others have done this in the past and got away with it. If the Premier League board are to follow up on this and punish all clubs who commit a similar offence then fair enough but only time will tell. At the moment it just seems like picking on the smaller clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
a precedent has now been set, let's see if the same precedent is enforced if some team puts out the reserves a week before the FA Cup/Champions League final
As a Man Utd fan... this precedent won't extend to the top teams. But we should probably avoid blowing it out of proportion - 25 grand is a nothing fine to a side like Wolves, and even so it's suspended. It's as lenient as they could have been, considering it was a nothing charge to begin with.
I think the decision to fine Wolves was a disgrace (suspended or not). 1 rule for the big four and sod the rest.
Not sure any of the "big four" has ever made 10 changes for a Premier league game. I still think it was the wrong decision by McCarthy (is he going to do the same against Chelsea?) from a football point of view but the fine is a nonsense. Either deduct points or do nothing - £25k is a joke and not a deterrent.
Man Utd against Hull last season! Last game of the season and Hull needed to equal Newcastle's result to stay up. Gibson scored a screamer to win the game and luckily for Hull Duffer scored an own goal (cannot remember who it was against) which meant Hull stayed up.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
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Originally Posted by OwlsFan
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...chester-united
"The board considered submissions from Wolverhampton Wanderers FC and had sympathy for the explanation submitted by the club in relation to similar cases from previous seasons. However the board ruled that this case could be differentiated from the other matches cited and that disciplinary action was warranted."
as opposed to
http://sports.rediff.com/report/2009...am-vs-hull.htm
Manchester United have every right to field a weakened team against Hull City on Sunday even though it could have an impact on the relegation battle, Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore has said.
"You have to be realistic: they've got a squad, and therefore you can't argue that they deploy the benefit of that squad in a game on Sunday."
Even though it's a suspended fine the hypocrisy is staggering
Exactly. It's completely inconsistent.
But there is a difference between playing a weakened team (not the whole reserve side) with a Champions League Final due a few days later and sending a reserve team to a league game with another similar league game in a all of a week's time.
that's just stupid, you can't have one rule for one game, and another for a different game.
Someone has just pointed out where ten changes were made. For United, the CL may be the number one priority. For Wolves, it is Premiership survival.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Hyprocisy from the Premier League authorities. Who'd have though it.:confused:
This is riduclous. Whether or not Mick was right or wrong in his decision is irrelevant. The fact is that he picks whatever team he sees fit to, and if he screws up and gets bad results or ticks off the supporters too much then he'll get the sack and/or wolves will go down. The FA have no buisness meddling in such a simple internal club matter. Idiots, absolute idiots!
That's it exactly.
This type of nonsense will only lead to having the Premier League dictate who a manager should send out for a game to appease sponsors/Sky. It's McCarthy's decision who plays in each game, if it goes wrong his chairman will be quick to punish him
http://somethingoffensive.files.word...8__wanda_l.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
"Don't call me stupid!"
Actually, looking at the Man U side that day it was pretty much a reserve team ok:
Man Utd: Kuszczak, Rafael Da Silva (Eckersley 60), Neville, Brown, De Laet (Possebon 79), Nani, Fletcher, Gibson, Welbeck (Tosic 87), Martin, Macheda.
so it is hypocrisy of the Premier League but McCarthy was still wrong to do it from a Wolves point of view unlike Ferguson where it didn't matter to Man U. But we've been through all that.
I meant applying one rule to one team and ignoring it for another is stupid
Shame indeed!............................:D
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IMO Mick has proved himself a top flight manager by probably keeping Wolves in the premiership and getting us to 2002 (and a couple of play-offs). And I honestly believe he will come back and manage the national team again. Possibly for 2014 if Trap retires (hopefully after us winning 2012). I met Mick in London 3 years ago and it still really rankled with him the way he had to leave. Really honest guy( I told him I supported Keane in 2002). His knowledge of World football ie different leagues was immense. Great to see him winning. Same applies to Chris Hughton.
The time may have come for the FA to pay the price for the completely moronic decision to fine Wolves. West Ham are considering a complaint over the team that Fulham fielded away to Hull last weekend, resting players ahead of the UEFA cup tie this week. West Ham are set to site the Wolves incident as a precedent, and may seek for Fulham to be punished.
I like Mick's quote on the incident: Wolves manager Mick McCarthy has leapt to Hodgson's defence, even though a Hull revival could see his side dragged back into the relegation scrap.
McCarthy said: "I haven't got a problem with it. I am not bothered what team they played" .. more in here - http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukp...PGi1w8A252HjWQ
Of course, this wouldn't be an issue if the FA just let the managers pick the team.