Brazil would have been paid anyway and I doubt that Arsenal would charge anything like the same level of rent as the GAA.Quote:
Originally Posted by lopez
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Brazil would have been paid anyway and I doubt that Arsenal would charge anything like the same level of rent as the GAA.Quote:
Originally Posted by lopez
Never been to the Emirates and it is one ground I'd love to see.
Still sceptical and doubt if the figures add up.
Brazil played Italy there last year and tickets were readily available. A colleague planned to go but it got too expensive. If I recall correctly tickets were really expensive.
Including the Irish footballing public and travelling support? Why would you want this to be the case?Quote:
Originally Posted by BYCTWD
No need for such a condescending tone, Im well aware of the need to raise funds through friendlies but why is this one friendly specifically about revenue generation.We will probably have about 4 or 5 friendlies before the next qualification campaign,one of which will be a sellout for the visit of Argentina to the reopening of Lansdowne.Quote:
Originally Posted by BYCTWD
I made a reference to the Ivory Coast who could be an interesting option for a friendly in my opinion and I think they would be a decent draw with the likes of Drogba in the team.There would probably be about 50000 tickets sold for it if held in Croker due to the block booking system so they wouldnt be losing money in such a friendly.
From £35, but that's probably for the two seats up the furthest corner.Quote:
Originally Posted by gspain
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...brazil-v-italy
If there is one place where money on the turnstiles is king, it's Arsenal. What can you expect from a club who were proud that they would be bringing in more money through the paying public than any other football club in the world, when the Emirates was first open.
the fai and irfu made a fortune out of playing in croke park despite the rent. its funny that you acuse the GAA of being bigots given the tone of this postQuote:
Originally Posted by BYCTWD
(a) Because it's against Brazil; that's why you play Brazil andQuote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
(b) Because the FAI are screwed financially and badly need lots of money coming in.
really? how many attended the recent friendlies in london and how many attended the friendlies in CP? Id say the craven cottage attendances were about a third of CP.Quote:
Originally Posted by BYCTWD
do you really believe that we would have had more than say 30,000 at any of our recent competitive matches if played in the cities you mention?
I dont know the answers to what the FAI made out of each game. But in fairness you have only taken one side of the equation i.e. the income.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
Rent / Running Costs of Croke Park vs. Craven Cottage - I'd hazard a guess that the difference is massive.
Im pretty sure the Emirates is the most expensive football ground in the world so i doubt they'll cut the FAI a better deal than the GAA would. Maybe the new wembley would be an option.
On the RTE Sports Awards John Delaney has just confirmed that the Brazil game is on but venue not decided (either Dublin or UK).
He also said that FIFA wanted to give us a Fair Play Award at their gala tomorrow but the FAI turned it down. Good decision - it all sounds a bit patronising.
What Fair Play did we show!!!!! We were cheated by a complete lack of fair play by France and there after by FIFA. We didn't show fair play and let FIFA **** off with this stupid patethic gesture on their part.
put Bohs into the Group stages of the Champions League. Its the only reasonable solution/compensation left for Irish football.
Seriouslly thought skstu, something like that would be deadly.
Should have agreed to take it & then refused to accept it on the night. At the press conference after Delaney could have told them all that 'really they have asked this' while raising his eyebrows and laughing manically and patronisingly a la Blatter! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by EastTerracer
I went to Brazil vs Sweden at the Emirates and it was packed. Crap atmosphere mind.
I reckon it is entirely a negotiating ploy. If GAA play ball, the game will be in Croker. If not, it won't. The FAI are super cash strapped and are going for the revenue maximisation approach and I applaud them for it. If they fail, what happens next?
will the 6 nations not interfere with the availability of Croke Park?
I think you might be right but seems like the FAI have takena fee from Kentaro so they'll do the deal. I hope that is the case anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperDave
The GAA deal is €1.4 million minimum or 26% of the gate which ever is the higher. The MillStad dropped their rent to 15% to attract events to Cardiff. The Emirates must be doing deals too given the matches they have hosted. The GAA would appear to not need events like the MillStad do so may well not budge. They might like to see the FAI get some negative publicity for denying children their dream of seeing Brazil play.... Crap I know but watch for the stories. RTE will wheel out the guy that calls himself Alan Hunter when they want to make fun of football fans.
I hope the FAI are not taking a gamble on this because the figures just don't add up for me to have it in Croke Park. Min guarantee €1.4 million, most tickets at €40 (same prices according to JD until 2012). Brazil's match fee is apparently €750,000.
England are playing Egypt on March 3rd at Wembley. Not sure we'd be allowed to play in London that night but maybe the night before.
Would be a very bad PR move for the FAI to play the game in the UK. There is alot of goodwill towards the Irish team at the moment, after the paris saga so i think a friendly against Brazil would sell Croker out (i think it did last time as well). Would be better if the game was on a wkd.
It will be likely to be the last game in Croker, a bit of negotiating will be required but Im sure the GAA may be flexible on this. They are going to lose out alot on rent after this year so best to maximise the final years return. They wont get enough concerts in future years to replace the FAI/IRFU revenue and the aviva deal means there wont be any football/rugby games there.
Game must be on Wed 3rd (may allow Tuesday 2nd).Quote:
Originally Posted by elroy
I can't see it selling out not with Brazil here for the 3rd time in 6 years. It didn't sellout last time.
I suspect the posturing about the venue is to get the GAA to do a deal. I can't see them budging though.
A piece on RTE seems to suggest that the friendly is related to FIFA attempts to keep the FAI happy.
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/1221/delaneyj.html
Not sell out but was in the region of 70k, im sure the fai would happily take that again.Quote:
Originally Posted by gspain
Have a feeling FIFA may have organised the friendly alright, perhaps they are paying a portion/all of Brazils fee? Better than some poxy award anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
I think this would definitely throw any London venues into doubt although there was a night in 2007 when London hosted 4 International matches on the same night:Quote:
Originally Posted by gspain
Brazil v Portugal : Emirates
Nigeria v Ghana : Brentford
Greece v South Korea : Craven Cottage
Australia v Denmark : Loftus Road
Obviously England playing in North London would be a completely different scenario though so I think Dublin and Manchester would be favourites at this stage.
70k at the last Brazil friendly, after a dire campaign and with Givens as caretaker.
The omens should surely point to a higher profile game this time around.
Ah London what a city.
Anyone any further info as where this game will be played or when they will announce it??
The latest sports news speculation was on 4 venues, Celtic Pk, Glazer Pk. Emirates and Croker.
Keep tuned in for further news.
Emirates or OT please.
According to Des Cahill on the news this morning, its looks like its going to be the Emirates.
UEFA website claims our U21 game v Armenia is now on Wednesday March 3rd in Tallaght (moved from Tuesday).Quote:
Originally Posted by drummerboy
The significant thing in that is there is no way that game would be moved if we were playing Brazil in Dublin on the 3rd.
Of course we could still play in Dublin on the 2nd but my reading of this is that the Emirates on the 2nd is more likely. England play in Wembley on the 3rd so 2 games of that magnitude in the same city on the same night probably wouldn't get police approval.
Today's Indo claim the GAA offered to lower their fee from €1.5 million but couldn't do a deal with Kentaro.
16 euro return incl T&C on Ryanair to Luton for the Tuesday/back wed for those who fancy a gamble. You could even drive a rental car to Manchester and back as well if the venue is wrong.
I'm tempted to go to this if it's in the UK. No interest in going to the game in Dublin. The 2004 friendly was terrible, me and my mate ended up at a corporate thing, had a dinner that Ray Houghton spoke at and the guy beside me at the table was yacking about how he didn't know anything about football, but thought it was a great way to entertain clients.
They gave us all an umbro polo shirt, with the match date inscribed on it. Every one was in XL. Sums up the crowd they were aiming at.
Considering an extra €500,000 (approx) rent for Croke Park,
is it still not a false economy to schedule the game outside Ireland?
I dont think it will reflect too well on the FAI if the game is scheduled outside Ireland. You can be sure the press will scold the FAI rather than the gaa in any case. Rumours of the rent for croker more than double that for emirates appears to be correct and right.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Are the FAI getting this friendly for free?? Surely its more than a coincidence that this friendly was arranged quite quickly after the 'moral compo' comment by our friend Sepp.
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Originally Posted by elroy
Why should it be held in Ireland, it's not been organised by the FAI as a home game, they are merely receiving a fee for playing, which is the normal for the away team.
Also as its not an FAI game block bookers wont be obliged to buy tickets and this would in my opinion result in a crowd of c30K unless ticket prices are droped drastically.
Anyway Ive just booked Ryanair to GAtwick on Tues back Weds for €20 inc taxes etc so heres hoping!
Moving it to London is a terrible move by the FAI & I think it may well be something of a false economy as pointed out, will they sell 60,000 tickets in London?
confirmed for the Emirates on Tuesday March 2nd on www.fai.ie. kickoff time and ticket details tbc
The FAI did not pick the venue. Kentaro paid the FAI a fee to play the game. They picked the venue. We played Norway in Oslo 2 years ago and Nigeria in Fulham last year. We can't play all our friendlies at home.Quote:
Originally Posted by endabob1
No doubt the GAA will try and ensure negative publicity for the FAI. However if they were anyway competitive with the Emirates they would have surely got the game in Croke Park. Kentaro are run by business people. They obviously looked at a number of venues and the Emirates clearly made the most sense financially.