Roy Keane on Henry and John Delaney

Nothing at all wrong with what Roy said - the truth hurts

Think you'll find he was Hon Treasurer and not Finance Director, and there is a world of difference. He wasn't even fulltime with FAi back then. As I said, the only reason he was on the media then was because he was left behind.

I Don't go want to go into the details about Saipan again, wish RK would do the same. THE TOOL.

The man with the cheque-book is always full-time!:)

Bit funny him telling everyone to get over it. I'm sure Haaland wished that Keane had gotten over his vendetta way back when.

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Originally Posted by OwlsFan

Poor defending

How can you defend properly against offside and handball? :confused:

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Ever hear of playing to the whistle?
The offside (while it should have resulted in a free out) was not the reason McShane didn't deal with the situation.
If he did deal with it, TH would not have got near the ball to handle it.

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

What I'm saying is that he cheated, it was probably spur of the moment rather than anything premeditated. I doubt he was saying to himself "bugger, only 20 mins and it's a penalty shoot out, I'd better cheat next time I get the chance". Yes, players jostle and pull and do all kinds, but come on, don't tell me you can't see the difference between that and dekliberately using your hand to prevent a ball going out of play and setting it up nicely for a pass?


As for looking gift hoses, back to the original point - no Ireland player cheated in the Georgia game so it's not comparable. The Georgia penalty is more akin to, for example, Keane being allowed to score when obviously offside. It wouldn't be Keane's fault he was given onside, but it was Henry's fault he controlled the ball deliberately and more than once with his hand.

I find it hard to blame the ref as he was conned, but a linesman should have seen it, and the offside.

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Yeah of course I can see the difference. But really it's just the degree of "cheating". Personally, I find diving a lot worse and there was a good bit of that on wednesday. Look at Anelka. The ref didn't give a penalty so must have thought it was a dive yet he didn't book him.

Regardless if someone cheated or not, it was a mistake by the officials (linesman most likely in this case), just as it was in the Georgia game. Even had he not handled it but taken it down on his chest, it still shouldn't have been allowed for the offside. Would we be calling for a replay then?

Anyway, Keane's comments about the players were ridiculous

I'm absolutely fuming with Keane, how dare he stick his nose in this and sh*t stir. He is using this as an excuse to have a dig at the fai over past differences. A bitter little man who just won’t leave things be. He should be ashamed of his lack of backing for a replay and has done the fai and this country as a whole no favours in our attempt to get justice served. Shame on you Roy Keane!!!!! :mad:

Keane's opinions on International football should be given all the attention that the opinions of any failing rural east Anglian football club manager deserve.

......very little.

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Originally Posted by CMcC

Ever hear of playing to the whistle?
The offside (while it should have resulted in a free out) was not the reason McShane didn't deal with the situation.
If he did deal with it, TH would not have got near the ball to handle it.

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How can you defend someone who is ahead of you because he if offside and if the ball hadn't been controlled with the hand it would have gone out of play?

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Originally Posted by Greenbod

Keane's opinions on International football should be given all the attention that the opinions of any failing rural east Anglian football club manager deserve.

......very little.

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So who do you support?

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Originally Posted by jebus

So who do you support?

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Ireland

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Originally Posted by Greenbod

Ireland

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So you don't support anyone at club level?

Also I've just watched the full Roy Keane interview rather than soundbytes and he is 100% right

I've never been a big fan of his, always believed he should have stuck out the World Cup in 02 and complained afterwards but he's spot on with everything he says in that interview, 100% correct Roy

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Originally Posted by jebus

So you don't support anyone at club level?

Also I've just watched the full Roy Keane interview rather than soundbytes and he is 100% right

I've never been a big fan of his, always believed he should have stuck out the World Cup in 02 and complained afterwards but he's spot on with everything he says in that interview, 100% correct Roy

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Never said I didn't support anyone at club level............the clue to what is being discussed here is at the top of your screen - Foot.ie forums>international>Ireland.

You are the hypocrite here.......Keane is taking to extreme, exactly what you have accused many on here of doing, ie..He's still droning on and bitter about a percieved injustice done to him. The difference is it was 7 years ago!, the injustice done to the Irish team was 2 days ago

Also, nothing he says, whether correct or incorrect, changes the fact that Henry cheated.

I've never been a big fan of his, always believed he should have stuck out the World Cup in 02 and complained afterwards but he's spot on with everything he says in that interview, 100% correct Roy

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Agree. Maybe in the cold light of next week when the emotion subsides, it will become evident how much of a chance Ireland themselves spurned to reach the World Cup.

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Originally Posted by Alf Honn

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Agree. Maybe in the cold light of next week when the emotion subsides, it will become evident how much of a chance Ireland themselves spurned to reach the World Cup.

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This has been evident to most people all along........the point is, despite the spurned chances, and remember the French had practically no chances to spurn!, we still could have got through had Henry not cheated.

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Originally Posted by Alf Honn

I've never been a big fan of his, always believed he should have stuck out the World Cup in 02 and complained afterwards but he's spot on with everything he says in that interview, 100% correct Roy

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Agree. Maybe in the cold light of next week when the emotion subsides, it will become evident how much of a chance Ireland themselves spurned to reach the World Cup.

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Ourselves surely?

If its not, you're not really in a position to comment....

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Originally Posted by Greenbod

Never said I didn't support anyone at club level............the clue to what is being discussed here is at the top of your screen - Foot.ie forums>international>Ireland.

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Why bring Ipswich into it in such a derogatory way so?

They're a proud club with great fans and tradition

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Originally Posted by jebus

Why bring Ipswich into it in such a derogatory way so?

They're a proud club with great fans and tradition

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I was referring to their current manager who had commented on my international team and who is the reason they are failing.

Ourselves surely?

If its not, you're not really in a position to comment....

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Oh yes, as an Irish native, I am in a position. The players I refer to - us mere mortals on here couldn't defend or score goals in Paris.

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Originally Posted by Alf Honn

us mere mortals on here couldn't defend or score goals in Paris.

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Speak for yourself!;)

Bellend.

People will know from previous posts that I have always been a Keane fan.....not anymore.Using the Henry situation to vent personal spleen and animosity towards the FAI is pathetic.He will always be a football legend in my eyes, unfortunately that same person now comes across as a bitter twisted little man.

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Originally Posted by Greenbod

I was referring to their current manager who had commented on my international team and who is the reason they are failing.

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This is what you said

should be given all the attention that the opinions of any failing rural east Anglian football club manager deserve.

That's not a fair comment on Ipswich Town as a club whatever their current manager, ex-Ireland captain Roy Keane, thinks about Ireland when asked a question about Ireland

Frankly, I find your concern for the sensitivities of Ipswich Town and their supporters* really heart-warming.



* both of them.

Of course it was bad defending, McShane should have pulled Henry back onside and then fisted the ball away. Problem solved.

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Originally Posted by Greenbod

Frankly, I find your concern for the sensitivities of Ipswich Town and their supporters* really heart-warming.



* both of them.

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I was waiting for you to go the whole barstooler hog so I could fully dismiss your views on football, cheers for doing so

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Originally Posted by Alf Honn

I've never been a big fan of his, always believed he should have stuck out the World Cup in 02 and complained afterwards but he's spot on with everything he says in that interview, 100% correct Roy

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Agree. Maybe in the cold light of next week when the emotion subsides, it will become evident how much of a chance Ireland themselves spurned to reach the World Cup.

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Maybe so. However sadly for many of us proud Irish fans the emotion hasn't subsided - evidently, if not instantly, it has for Keane.

The fact that he uses the misfortune of a valiant team and the woes of a nation as a point scoring opportunity is a disgrace - ultimately coming back to his typical subject matter - poor old me, why didn't he ring me etc. etc, while reopening petty grievances with ex-colleagues and players who have let HIM down.

I used to worship the ground he walked on when he wore a green shirt, but simply can't believe what a bitter, cowardly, egotistical, self-centred, unempathetic c*** he has become. He is a traitorous, treachourous laughable man and i'll be rubbing my hands in glee as his ill-fated managerial career (and hopefully life) descends into ultimate decline.

Playing for your country is the greatest honour ever bestowed upon you - look at what it meant to lads like Andrews and St Ledger who were immense. Those players gave everything for the shirt (a lot more than anything he ever did in a vain bid to protect his precious Man Utd career). They may not have the ability he did, but they have the honour and dignity, which will extend beyond their careers - unlike him.

If the French want to do anything for us they should forget the replay, give us control of their next planned south pacific nuclear test and allow us to stick Roy and his dear friend Stephen on the desert island. I'd quite happily press the button.

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Originally Posted by jebus

I was waiting for you to go the whole barstooler hog so I could fully dismiss your views on football, cheers for doing so

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You didn't have to wait you know...........I dismissed yours ages ago.

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Originally Posted by jebus

go the whole barstooler hog

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Is this a dance?.......something like the time warp thing....anybody know??

I thought you dismissed my opinion ages ago?

Why so concerned?

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Originally Posted by jebus

Why so concerned?

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I'm just a caring kind of person..............I worry for you.

Bless

thank you.

If it was an honest assessment of the chances we missed in the 90 minutes and the defending before the French handball / goal then it would just be another manager giving his opinion. However its clear he's settling his own personal issues with the FAI, Shay Given and World Cup 2002. Not worth listening to in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Manc Irish Wolf

Playing for your country is the greatest honour ever bestowed upon you - look at what it meant to lads like Andrews and St Ledger who were immense. Those players gave everything for the shirt (a lot more than anything he ever did in a vain bid to protect his precious Man Utd career)

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can i just point out that we would never have qualified 2002 without his displays, and our barren spell of non qualifications for major tournaments would currently be standing at 15 years and counting

Apologies if this has already been said, but I'm finding Roy Keane telling people to 'Get over it' hilarious considering in the same interview he's still banging on about Delaney and Saipan.

Busy deflecting the fact that Ipswich are crap. Bet he was not questioned about his team...

We should just forget about Weds and get on with it so we can deal with Saipan and the terrible injustice done on RK by the country, the players, the fans, Delaney and anyonelse alive or dead at the time, as Roy said we should just get on with it and break Henry's legs next time we play him:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Fixer82

He's right. we're bitching and moanin bout being robbed once again. The match should have been over in 90 minutes and McShane should never have let that ball bounce....

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Rubbish. Say McShane had put the ball out for a corner and they'd scored from that? He'd be getting slated for giving away a needless corner. The ball was going out for a goal kick till Henry handled it and there were 2 players including the eventual goalscorer clearly offside, blaming the defence and the keeper is nonsense and is clearly a personal dig at the players involved. And the pure hypocrisy of the man saying we need to get over it at the start of his rant and then proceeding to give out yards about Saipan 7 years on is comical in a sad bitter sort of way. Those slavishly following him and still hanging on his every word sound more ridiculous by the day and all.

Why do we care what some sh*t Championship manager struggling to keep his job and avoid relegation thinks?