Penny has dropped that he's the one that will carry the can out of all of this, with a permanently tarnished reputation.
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Penny has dropped that he's the one that will carry the can out of all of this, with a permanently tarnished reputation.
look its alright saying it when there is no chance of it happening. he was probably advised to say it, ease his image a bit.
Exactly what i Thought. :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
He's just covering his ar$e, agent told him to do something in case he loses endorsment contractsQuote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
"henry"..allo michel can i say we should replay this game
"platini"..ya say it, never going to happen though..mwwwhhahahahaaaaa
Yeh hollow words at this stage. I don't think it will improve his reputation now though. Will he canvass other players? Hard to know. It looks like it's done and dusted.
Not a good week for football with first the handball and now this
Police arrest 15 in match-fixing investigation
Friday, 20 November 2009 13:37
Police in four European countries staged simultaneous raids and arrested 15 people as part of a match-fixing investigation encompassing nine European leagues, Bochum police said on Friday.
Police in Germany, Britain, Austria and Switzerland were involved, according to police, who said three matches in Europe's top level Champions League were among games under investigation.
Hopefully people will stop having a go at Henry now. Blatter is the real f**ker here.
Players cheat in a split second without thinking about it. Irish players will do the same so get off that high horse.
Mr Henry, you should say this kind of thing at the referee when you have scored.
It's too late hypocrite.
Noooooooooo. Henry cheated, don't mind this PR bull **** thats coming out now.Quote:
Originally Posted by youngirish
It's down to the FFF to offer a replay. FIFA can't do anything except make suggestions to FFF that they'd support a replay if they offered it. Henry has no influence here. Henry realises that his reputation is badly tarnished, he is shocked at the scale of the reaction and now he wants to be seen to be doing the right thing.
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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Couldnt agree more. And as much as I want it, the FFF have already made their decision. The qualification means so much €€€€€ for them, they wont offer all that up.
great timing henry.
Of course he says this an hour after FIFA release their statement.
Great PR Thierry.
Fifa have said they won't order a replay, but as far as I'm aware, that doesn't mean they couldn't approve one should the FFF decide to offer one.
Fifa won't order one as it would set a precedent, however if the FFF offer it (thereby avoiding precedent), I'd say they'd be willing to approve it.
I'm actually starting to consider that there might be a very small chance this could happen.
Easy to say it know after the FFF and Fifa have made up their mind. Just as it was easy to go around apologising to the Irish players when the match had finished, despite his celebration with his big grin
I admire Henry for this even if I am suspicious the game won't be replayed.
Even if it is replayed, whose to say something similar won't happen in the replay.
Are people saying that if the FFF were to agree then FIFA would automatically do so? I doubt this to be hte case.
Is there any actual time-frame for appeal or anything like that?
Anyone got any extremely compromising/embarassing pictures of the head of the FFF? LeBleu care to help out?! :D
Osarusan when i first heard there would be a look for a replay i knew in a million years this would never happen. For a man who is generally quite rational im very surprised to hear you come out with the above statement.
Me too. Albeit less than 5% but a chance. There is actually a level of disgust in France about this. David Ginola spoke very well on Sky sports news this morning where he esentially apologies to the Irish on behalf of his country menQuote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
Amazing that we get to hear from Henry and Hanson within the space of an hour. And just after FIFA's own statement. Sickening stuff. I thought yesterday the FFF might just crack. But today I am now sure FIFA are co-ordinating all these statements. Bluffer and Platini are pulling the strings.
The only real obstacle is the FFF. Fifa wouldn't oppose it in my opinion, as it would make a great story at every level. Fair play wins through, the FFF cannot bear to go through this way, Henry repents and actively seeks a replay, the plucky underdogs get another chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
The question is if the FFF are willing to risk a place at the world cup for this. And I'd imagine they'd think that in any replay, France would never play quite as badly as on Wednesday, nor the Irish play as well as we did.
Thanks for your sentiments Tez. Now all you have to do is say that you don't want to go to the World Cup on this basis, and will withdraw from the french squad unless a re-match takes place.
Now that would be impressive.
No pictures but we know that Domenech is payed more than 800 000 euros because he succeed to qualify France for WC .Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Too much money on the table for change something.
The FFF have just said its time to draw a line under this and "Move On". Very similiar to Hansson's 'Life Must Go On' statement. All these statements coming out within a few minutes of each other. Already Henry's comments are getting lambasted in the press for the timing.
Sorry Osarusan, but you're living with in the clouds if ye beleive any of that.
The only thing i could see coming out slightly would be if cowen did actually push sarkozy. Im sure sarkozy could pull strings but i dont see that happening. I see cowen sharing a quick "well ye know ye got through but it wasn't the fairest" and thats that.
Yep or if he had made the statement yesterday. All hollow words considering both FIFA and FFF have officially stated non to le replay this morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by del_carroll
This is CO-ORDINATED PR at its very worst AND AN INSULT TO ALL iRISH FANS
Yes but would they celebrate it as vocally as Henry did afterwards?Quote:
Originally Posted by youngirish
Fair enough, I didn't know about the FFF statement when I had the faintest glimmer of hope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
amire Henry? very naive...Quote:
Originally Posted by Emmet7
when the fai were pushing for a replay , what were they actually looking for .
A once off game in a neutral ground starting at 0-0
both legs to be replayed
A replay in France with them leading 0-1 from dublin
All outrageous anyway but just wondering
I thought there was an outside chance they might replay it myself. And the FFF only just issued that statement. Plus Henry's comments on his twitter page differ from what he said in his statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
He said on his Twitter page: "I'm not the referee, but if I hurt someone I'm sorry.
"It was not a beautiful match. It was just neccesary to exploit what was exploitable.
He is admitting cheating here.
If Henry really wanted to replay it he could kick up a row, he's the captain ffs. If he really meant it he could say he's retiring from international football unless it's resolved. He doesnt want to replay it, empty gesture he can shove up his arse.
Where does this go from here?
As stated earlier, the only chance is the FFF bowing.
But, remember, isn't Delaney best of chums with their legend and now UEFA chief Platini (see below)! Surely it's time for some political lobbying...not a chance.
From Daily Mail:
Platini took the extraordinary step of going to Dublin last September to enrol on a three-week English-speaking course at Trinity College ¿ which had been set up for him by John Delaney, the Football Association of Ireland's chief executive.
If Henry wants it to be replayed because it is unfair on Ireland and it is not repayed, then Henry if he is an honourable decent man he will refuse to play in an unfair competition.
If he does play he has shown himself to be a man without honour or integrity, like Maradona, no more than a dirty cheat.
This kind of situation would have led to a war many years agoQuote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Fair play to him.
So when we play again, it's extra time only i.e. we start at 1-1 !!
I've said on here in the interests of fairness the game should be replayed.
But it's between FIFA and the FFF and it's looking now as if they have no interest in a replay.
The whole thing shows there is something rotten in the state of FIFA and international soccer and it started with the seedings.
I doubt the game will be replayed.
I'd agree this would be the fairest thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by saint dog
We scored a perfectly good goal and if there was a replay in Paris effectively that goal would be disallowed.
Would the FFF agree to this? Would FIFA?
No chance of a replay I'm afraid.
Where would they even fit it in with all the Champions League, league fixtures etc.?
You can view Henry's comments as only being an attempt to deflect some of the flak he's getting now but I think that's a bit harsh. Yes, it was a clear handball, but he was hardly planning it minutes in advance. It was something that happened on the spot and he stuck out his hand and controlled it. The real blame should be directed at the referee and linesman who missed something so blatant and missed Squillaci being offside when he was challenging with Dunne
Personally, I don't think there are many players who would have come out and made any comments so I think fair play to him for that.
Doesn't change the fact we won't be at the WC unfortunately...
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Originally Posted by Milesmayhem24
unless.. they defer naming that team slot at the world cup draw and play the game in january.
late arrangements have been made before when denmark replaced yugoslavia in 1992.
equally, I'm prepared to give henry some merit here, he didn't have to say anything. having said that, it is just talk and if he doesn't back it up with anything then it's meaningless.