yes, because thats exactly what i said. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Emmet7
What age are you? Do you have problem with comprehending a point? Or answering a question?
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yes, because thats exactly what i said. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Emmet7
What age are you? Do you have problem with comprehending a point? Or answering a question?
Grand so.
Our 4 wins were well deserved.
We should have beaten the Italians at home and possible away too. We should have beaten the Bulgarians home and away if it wasn't for elemental defensive mistakes.
Had we taken the Montenegro game more seriously, we could easily have won that.
That would have made it 8 or 9 wins if it wasn't for a couple of mistakes.
However, this is only Trap's first campaign and he is only with the players 3 or 4 days for each match. That's the context you have to take it in. To go undefeated through a difficult group is a good if not spectacular achievement given it's his first term.
We don't have the strength in depth or quality the English team have for example so we were never going to win most of our games.
should have (X2)
could have
would have
now, im not disputing that we have done well - we have. I just think that if we dont qualify, we dont qualify and what have we got to show for the last campaign? 4 wins, 6 draws maybe two defeats and memories of moral victories. Not alot else.
What we have done is made a hell of alot of progressQuote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Calm down lads, I'm here, with my phenomenal (!) 3-game streak of the correct results...so for the first leg, here it is.
Ireland 1 France 0
You heard it here first.
...okay, maybe you didn't, but I get points for optimism, right?
First Leg: Ireland 0 France 4
Second Leg: Ireland 0 France 0
Sorry lads but I just don't see it happening for us. I hope I'm wrong. France are excellent odds to qualify at -270 (just a bit cheaper than 3/1 on for ye who are not familiar with American odds)
I'll say 1-0 Ireland. Based on no footballing logic or precedent whatsoever. Just a feeling.
As for Trap's achievement thus far, qualification would be an absolute vindication of his methods, given the enormity of the task. However, if we don't qualify, should everything he's achieved be denigrated? No. If we were to go into next year managerless, we would be back exactly where we were post-Staunton, and probably sink into a Belgium/Romania/Hungary-type of decline. Trapattoni has given us a base and structure from which to build. The fact that we've remained competitive in this campaign despite missing our best full-back (Finnan), our best central midfielder (Steven Reid) and our best winger (Duff) for most of the campaign (not to mention the Stephen Ireland farce) is a commendable achievement.
Even in our better days under Charlton and McCarthy, we went through the pain of failing to hang on to leads, failing to keep possession in midfield, conceding last-minute goals, drawing our big home games and dropping points against inferior teams. It's not exactly a new phenomenon. The challenge for any Irish manager is to stamp out the silly results, i.e. Poland '91, Liechtenstein and Austria '95, Macedonia '99, and Israel '05, which cost us so dear. Expecting us to beat Italy and France and declaring anything less as outright failure is, in my opinion, snobbish and deluded.
Ireland 1-0 France
France 0-0 Ireland
did u not learn from your prediction of 4 nil in the Italy game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
If I keep predicting it eventually it will come true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Honestly though I fear we're in for a right hiding, especially if Henry plays. The level of talent the French have is downright frightening. I think they are better than us at every position, including goalkeeper.
And a broken clock is right twice a day. Fact is we've only conceded more than one goal in a competitive game once, and that was Italy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
Even in the worst games, we've only conceded three (Australia and Poland), and we've only conceded more than 3 goals under any manager a handful of times.
Nice to see a bit of confidence in the Irish team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
Absolutely! I think it is ridiculous that if we qualify, Trap will be nigh on unquestionable but if we fail, there will be likely be some calling for his head. Neither position is anywhere near tenable. He has done a good job with limited resources and a seeding status that did us no favours. If we were second seeds (which hopefully we will be by the time of the 2014 qualifiers) we would have stood a magnificent chance at automatic qualification by drawing home and away with the first seeds. That we weren't and won't be for 2012 is largely a result of the Staunton era results..Quote:
Originally Posted by Supreme feet
You and Pat Dolan should hang out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
I saw this post over on ybig.ie, if this doesnt pump you up for the match i dont know what will, excellent stuff.
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Originally Posted by DALLASTRISH1
He's right Lloris, Mandanda and Frey (if Domenech and him ever made up) are all world class keepers and probably as good if not better than Given, and they outclass us everywhere else too.
But the one place they don't outclass us is the man standing on the touchlines and that's probably the most important position of all. They also have poor supporters who won't get behind them if things aren't going their way.
Watching Sky Sports advertising their upcoming football today made me so proud, similar sized nations, Scotland, Wales and NI all have meaningless friendless next sat then its ROI V France in a WC playoff.
Just think about that for a second, and in particular compare it to this time last campaign. How far we have come and who knows how far more we will go. As Ireland football fans, enjoy the next 10 days or so, cherish them, these are days we long for. We've had Malta, NI, Holland, Belgium, Turkey and Iran in recent times, some great days in there, we can now add France to the list and hopefully another qualification.
Im a nervous wreck after reading today papers previews, but am starting to believe. Its not going to be pretty, but I think we can get a good result at home to go to paris with. Not sure we will win, but think it may well be scoreless at home, setting up an intriguing winner takes all in paris. COME ON YOU BOYS IN GREEN!!!
We will knock out France for the simple reason that those corrupt , draw fixing cheats at UEFA / FIFA will get their comeuppance and I for one will be chanting " ARE YOU WATCHING PLATINI ??" at the top of my voice when we put the French out in Paris.
Ireland 1-0 France
France 1-1 Ireland
Au revoir Monsieur Platini - get it right up ya.
What’s worrying me about our chances against the French is the amount of playing time some of our players are getting. We have two areas where we are most vulnerable left back and the central midfield. These are the positions where most of our goals conceded have come from over this campaign so far and this was when the players in these positions were getting regular first team places. Kevin Kilbane who is not a natural left back cannot get into a poor Hull team. Keith Andrews has spent a lot of time on the bench in recent matches, Darron Gibson is just returning from injury. Surely none of them can be match sharp for such an important match.
On another note Liam Lawrence did not make it off the bench for Stoke to-day, Steven Hunt was rubbish in the same game and Aiden McGeady looked bad against lowly Falkirk also missing a penalty.
I know that Given, Dunne, O’Shea, Duff, Keane have all excelled lately and also Whelan and Doyle to a lesser extent.
Will we have enough to beat the French over two legs? I hope to God I am wrong but I really don’t think so. Looking at our present first 11 the French appear way too strong for us and their strength in dept is frightening.
1-1 and 2-1 I am afraid.
[QUOTE=Murfinator;1268161]He's right Lloris, Mandanda and Frey (if Domenech and him ever made up) are all world class keepers and probably as good if not better than Given, and they outclass us everywhere else too.
This is pure rubbish.....are you French?? Yourself and COlbert are talking cr@p
I think it will be really tight, we will not be beaten 4-0. I think Ireland find it easier against teams who are stronger up front as opposed to midfield. Thats why Im confident. If we compare France to Italy, the Italians had a much stroner midfield than attack and this was very diificult for us. Whereas the French have a stronger attack than midfield and I believe we can cope with this easier. The french midfield is strong but I believe its not as good as the italian one we faced.
Collectively we are very strong, I think its 50-50 to be honest. Georcuff I believe is pulling the strings these days so hopefully we can keep him quiet.
Cant wait for the game....
Had a dream the other night we lost 2-3 in Dublin and drew 2-2 over there.
Though the same night I dreamt a pals ex was out on the landing and I was genuinely afraid to go out for a whizz so I haven't read a great deal into it.
Believe.
have to keep them scoreless at CP no matter what and try to nick an away goal. only way i see us going through
What? you didnt go out and rattle her? I dont know........Quote:
Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie
Unfortunately I think the French will have too much for us over two legs. If it was a one-off game I think we'd have a chance, but the best side always wins over two legs. I'd feel more confident if we had a natural left back playing instead of Kilbane, as I feel the French will definitely expose him at some point. I know we haven't got many options in this area but if Finnan was fit and O'Shea at left back I'd feel happier. I also worry about the fact that we rely heavily on our wingers for creativity, and France may nullify this due to having excellent full backs in Sagna and Evra.
The major concern I have with Ireland is that we'll lack the belief that we can beat the French over two games. This is why I think it was so important to beat the Italians at Croke Park. We were never going to win the group as Italy were always going to beat Cyprus, but it would have given us the belief that we can actually beat one of the top nations in a competitve game. We have not beaten any top nation in a qualifier since 2001 so it's hard to understand people's confidence on here. A 1-0 win in Croke Park is essential to give us any chance in Paris. God knows I hope I'm wrong but if we beat the French over two legs it will surpass any of our previous achievements.
Well I also had a dream that involved us leading 1-0 at half time in Dublin but us then winning the first leg 7-3 (!) overall. I spent the second half in a cramped room with a small window looking out onto the pitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie
In short, don't read too much into your dreams.
So it wasn't a wet dream then?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie
Had a dream the other night we lost 2-3 in Dublin and drew 2-2 over there.
Though the same night I dreamt a pals ex was out on the landing and I was genuinely afraid to go out for a whizz so I haven't read a great deal into it.
Believe.
Sounds like it may have been deppending where he "whizzed".Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
No sh!tting here, but about 2 weeks ago I had a dream of France scoring two in rapid succession within the first twenty minutes or so...don't know if we scored four in the second half of my dream though!
Just looking at the odds for France to qualify, they are almost exactly the same price as Liverpool are to beat Birmingham today.
Speaking of which I had a dream a few weeks ago of us winning in Paris after a draw in Dublin with an amazing performance when nobody gave us a hope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scram
I had a dream....
I dreamed a dream.
Im hoping to have a dream like that, but while im awake!!!
Lloris conceded 5 at the wknd.
Lloris
Gallas Abidal
Theirin lies our best chance of turning these kunts over
Arsenal have been conceding a few this season. More than (or the same as) Chelsea, United, Villa, Fulham, Birmingham and City. They have been a bit weak at the back although maybe largely down to not playing a strong defensive midfielder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brendan 82
I agree, def the area of the field where we can exploit and set pieces too. I think we are at a par with Romania if not better and their two games were score draws.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brendan 82
Gallas should certainly be targeted, Arsenal are conceding alot this year and I think Vermalen has made Gallas look better than he actually is. Wouldnt it be sweet to see Gallas lose the plot again in paris!!
1-0 victory for us in Croker. Liam Lawrence free kick after 16 minutes. Constant pressure for us afterwards.
2-1 defeat in Paris. Concede two goals in the first half an hour. Trap works his magic. Leon Best scores in the 81st minute. Cue 15 minutes of severe squaky bum time where we even clear off the line.
Believe
i dreamt a couple of nights ago that Leon Best scored to make it 1-1 in Paris. I dont know what that meant for qualification because before long i was on a magic carpet flying over London showering the city with cream cakes.
Okay I know some of these players don't play with France but any French international defender/goalkeeper involved in this match looks suspecting after this scoreline:
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/footba...le-283997.html
Maybe we can take advantage of this
the french are widely known as cheese eating surrender monkeys.
Maybe we can take advantage of this.
Bonsoir.
Well,
- we have good players
-but we have also the most incompetent (he has never won A SINGLE trophy during his carrier) and loony human coach on earth(although sometimes this ridiculous guy can be so funny, we've got lots of very laughin stories about him)
-we dont have supporters (especially at Paris)
-we love to be proud of our defeats
-Your players are techincally limited but brave
-Your coach is a genius
-Your supporters are like a green tide with high waves.
I wish a France's victory. 0-0 at Croke Park and 1-0 at Stade de France. I even hope of crazy match with 4 goals in a stadium in fusion (I'm waiting so long to watch a fuc***g France's match with thrills on my back and rage on my heart. ..arggggh . Maybe the nov 18 , who knows??)
But if Eire score only one goal at Paris I think it will be over for us.
Finally ..we would be forever rid of Domenech, that will be not so bad.
A bored but still faithful french supporter.
Blue cheese is so good.
I dreamt that number 1 was gary breen. That number 2 was gary breen.
By the end of the dream it was a team full of gary breens,....weird
Ne t'inquiet pas. Vous allez gagnez sur 180 mins. Mais, Domenech! Le roi des cons. Il est notre seul espoir.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeBleu