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06/12/2010, 6:58 PM
Yard of Pace

66% of the vote! Rare for football fans to agree to such an extent. Can anyone tell me what kind of midfielder is Clifford? I've yet to see him play.
06/12/2010, 7:46 PM
Brendan 82

Midfield General
06/12/2010, 7:48 PM
tommy_c12000

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Originally Posted by Yard of Pace

66% of the vote! Rare for football fans to agree to such an extent. Can anyone tell me what kind of midfielder is Clifford? I've yet to see him play.

I've only seen him twice play last season in the FA Youth Cup. Think they were playing Villa in the final. As described in the piece on the website, he looks to be well able to tackle and has a good eye for a pass. He got a cracker of a goal in last yr's final from distance so looks to be equipped with a powerful shot. Haven't seen him enough to make a proper judgement though, but he seems to have it all
06/12/2010, 8:02 PM
tetsujin1979

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Originally Posted by Yard of Pace

66% of the vote! Rare for football fans to agree to such an extent. Can anyone tell me what kind of midfielder is Clifford? I've yet to see him play.

I've seen him play twice this year for the U21s, vs Armenia in March, and Estonia in August.
My comments from those games:
from the Armenia thread: http://foot.ie/threads/132399-U21-Vs-Armenia/page2

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The one positive was the performance of Chelsea's Conor Clifford in midfield. Full of energy, running and tackling, he looks a definite talent.

and from the Estonia thread: http://foot.ie/threads/138607-Under-...-10-8-11/page3

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

The midfield of McCarthy, Gleeson and Garvan controlled possesion well in the middle of the park, and linked up with Clifford on the right. The Estonain right winger had previously enjoyed some space between Clifford and Coleman at right full, but with this space eliminated, his threat was removed.

To be honest, I don't remember him having much impact on the game, and he was playing right in front of where I was sitting in the second half. However, he was out of position as an old fashioned inside right, and seems to be far more comfortable in centre midfield.

There isn't really anyone like him in the squad at the moment, unless you count McCarthy. He like to receive the ball from the defence, and drive forward through the centre of the park to either pass to a teammate or shoot himself. He's mentioned a few times that he's learned a lot from Frank Lampard, but I think he plays a little behind where you would normally see Lampard on the pitch. He's be closer to Alonso in terms of position on the pitch, if not ability (yet) and while I would like to see him in a Chelsea jersey before the end of the season, a full season on loan with Plymouth would not be the worst thing either.

Just let's not start calling for Trapattoni's job because he is not called into a squad, ok?
06/12/2010, 8:37 PM
passinginterest

I was at those two U21 games too and I said:
Armenia:

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...Conor Clifford was a class apart from everyone else on the pitch... I expected more from Garvan as he was the most experienced but he was overshadowed by Clifford...

Estonia:

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Clifford who got better and better as the game went on... Clifford looked the fittest player on the pitch to me, he seems to have a great engine, he is very small though.

Basically he's a bit small but a real box to box style midfielder, good eye for a pass, technically very tidy and a good shot on him.
06/12/2010, 9:19 PM
Charlie Darwin

It's hard to tell what kind of player Clifford will be at Premier League level (should he make it) but he does seem to have similar attributes to Essien: low centre of gravity, power (obviously not as much as Essien), passing ability, shooting ability. If he could be even half the player Essien is I'd be happy.
08/12/2010, 4:15 PM
ken foree

compilation here, some (brilliant) goals were likely posted earlier on in this thread. looks some player, at that level at least:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOahS8Dg9KM
08/12/2010, 5:42 PM
tommy_c12000

Looks like an amazing talent. Fingers crossed. . . . . . .
08/12/2010, 8:44 PM
AlaskaFox

Greenscene's League One player of the month:
http://greenscene.me/2010/12/greensc...-for-november/
"The Chelsea midfielder is on loan with Plymouth, and has had an immediate impact, winning the adoration of their fans with very consistent performances in the centre of the park. An astonishing percentage of visitors to the club’s official website (66%) voted him their player of the month for November."
08/12/2010, 10:19 PM
paul_oshea

So he likes going from box to box
08/12/2010, 11:15 PM
tommy_c12000

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

So he likes going from box to box

Don't we all
11/12/2010, 11:28 PM
tommy_c12000

Another man of the match performance today in Plymouth's 2-0 victory:

http://www.pasoti.co.uk/talk/viewtopic.php?t=49235
12/12/2010, 1:52 AM
Sullivinho

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Originally Posted by tommy_c12000

Another man of the match performance today in Plymouth's 2-0 victory:

http://www.pasoti.co.uk/talk/viewtopic.php?t=49235

"Clifford for me was like watching Paul Scholes at times in a green shirt"

We can certainly hope.
21/12/2010, 8:38 PM
The Fly

Clifford unlikely to stay at Plymouth

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...-Plymouth.html
21/12/2010, 11:46 PM
Yard of Pace

Bad news that.

Also, there was a big enough feature on him in the Sunday Times just gone, for anyone interested.
22/12/2010, 8:10 AM
drummerboy

SSN reporting that his loan has been extended until Jan 22
22/12/2010, 11:22 AM
Kingdom

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Originally Posted by Yard of Pace

Bad news that.

Also, there was a big enough feature on him in the Sunday Times just gone, for anyone interested.

Yeah read that, wasn't bad. The move to Plymouth might have been decent, he says himself that he is seeing the harsher side of football life, with the Pilgrims being up the ****ter metaphorically speaking. Looking to go to a championship club on loan next and then seeing what happens with Chelsea.
I got the feeling from reading what he said that he's not going to hang around the reserves at chelsea for long, and that if there isn't significant progress he'll move. He's seen the likes of Kakuta and McEachrain move to first team despite being young so it is happening there.
22/12/2010, 1:56 PM
Closed Account

Gone back to the Bridge
http://www.chelseafc.com/page/Latest...249618,00.html
22/12/2010, 4:37 PM
Charlie Darwin

He'll have no problem getting another loan at the same or a higher level, if that's what he wants.
25/12/2010, 9:05 AM
AlaskaFox

Exactly, hopefully a Championship side will take him on loan.
25/12/2010, 6:03 PM
Fergie's Son

Looks like a good potential. Would take some player to break into that Chelsea midfield.
28/12/2010, 7:05 PM
Junior

In fairness the way Chelsea are playing of late it could be ideal for an unknown youngster to come in and take the EPL by storm......:-):D
28/12/2010, 11:57 PM
tricky_colour

I love it if he got a start for Chelsea, and with 3 points out of a possible 18 I don't see why he shouldn't get a game!
29/12/2010, 1:13 AM
Charlie Darwin

You'd think this would push him up the order but the opposite case is actually occurring. Players like McEachran, Sturridge and Kakuta were getting plenty of game-time a couple of months ago but now that they've stopped winning games Ancelotti is sticking with the experienced guys despite their poor form.
02/02/2011, 2:26 PM
tetsujin1979

Playing against Arsenal reserves this afternoon, just scored the equaliser
from YoungGunsBlog's twitter feed: http://twitter.com/#!/YoungGunsBlog/...20349968060416

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Great move from Chelsea down the right, comes back to Clifford on the edge of the box, he smashes home off the inside of the post.
02/02/2011, 10:07 PM
Stuttgart88

Met a Plymouth fan tonight. They loved Clifford but couldn't continue his loan because of a transfer embargo due to their pending administration hearing.
11/02/2011, 11:05 AM
Charlie Darwin

Gone on loan to Notts County for an initial one-month spell, but the article says both clubs expect it to be extended to the end of the season. Good move for him - Paul Ince seems to have found his feet again there and there's a few other Irish players around.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foot...ty/9394320.stm
11/02/2011, 1:41 PM
shakermaker1982

I'll have a look out for him the next month or so. Always good to have an Irish prospect playing football on your doorstep!
11/02/2011, 2:13 PM
Sullivinho

Great to see this guy getting another dose of game time. Would have liked to see him step up to the championship this time (I'm sure he could handle it) but it's all good.
11/02/2011, 2:56 PM
tetsujin1979

Notts County are one place worse off than Plymouth, although with 5 games in hand over them.
I'm happy for him to get game time, and hopefully push on either at Championship or first team level next season
11/02/2011, 3:48 PM
SaucyJack

Somebody went to the bother of posting his goals on Youtube,(sorry if posted already)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOahS8Dg9KM
11/02/2011, 3:57 PM
Sullivinho

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Originally Posted by SaucyJack

Somebody went to the bother of posting his goals on Youtube,(sorry if posted already)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOahS8Dg9KM

2:50 :bomb:
11/02/2011, 3:59 PM
paul_oshea

Is there not enough political stuff going on in the other threads, without the need for you to be planting bombs, in this one?
11/02/2011, 4:05 PM
Sullivinho

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Is there not enough political stuff going on in the other threads, without the need for you to be planting bombs, in this one?

:terror:
11/02/2011, 4:07 PM
Predator

Could Clifford be the next Gibson? Talented youngster with a fantastic strike, at a top club where there are limited chances of first team football.
Is he good enough to break into Chelsea's midfield?
11/02/2011, 4:14 PM
SkStu

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Originally Posted by Predator

Could Clifford be the next Gibson?

i fcking hope not! :D
11/02/2011, 4:20 PM
Sullivinho

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predator

Could Clifford be the next Gibson? Talented youngster with a fantastic strike, at a top club where there are limited chances of first team football.
Is he good enough to break into Chelsea's midfield?

Cracking prospect but I'd prefer if he was coming through the ranks some place like Everton. Chelsea wouldn't be renowned for bringing through or having to rely on their own. $$$
11/02/2011, 4:31 PM
SkStu

great goals there. He takes his shots very early which is always a major advantage.
11/02/2011, 4:32 PM
SaucyJack

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Originally Posted by Predator

Could Clifford be the next Gibson? Talented youngster with a fantastic strike, at a top club where there are limited chances of first team football.
Is he good enough to break into Chelsea's midfield?

He's already said that he doesn't expect to have a future at Chelsea, with all the players they've brought in, just a matter of where he ends up.
11/02/2011, 4:33 PM
Charlie Darwin

When did he say that? There is definitely room for a couple of young players to break into that midfield, especially if Abramovic's outlay on Luiz and Torres turns out to be a once-off.

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