Was told it was in the paper today(Sunday) that Pat's want John Gill for the rest of the season, any truth in it?
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Was told it was in the paper today(Sunday) that Pat's want John Gill for the rest of the season, any truth in it?
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Originally Posted by Acornvilla
All football managers are when it comes to their own contracts.
Source?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
Pats source, usually reliable. Would be really suprised if some Pats posters on this Forum haven`t heard the same report.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
Whats with all the negative posts about Rodgers, has he been very poor this season?
Interested in the view of Galway and Pats people on Rodgers or Ryan??? Who got the better deal...
Galway did, but I've never rated either of them. Rogers has improved a lot in the last third of the season, he was a liability previously.
Ryan better by miles. No contest.Quote:
Originally Posted by noisecontrol
All very interesting but unless your a mind reader how do you know so much about what he was thinking at the time?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
Also, you have a lot of info on a lot of other clubs. I'd like to know your sources. Could be all bull**** in fairness and we have no way of proving or disproving any of it.
Errm, didn't Kildare go down to the 'A' Championship? Maybe that was over licensing. If you ask me the others have been playing with fire when it comes to the financial stuff -I don't see why Cork weren't relegated just like Shels were (they probably got their licence in the nick of time).Quote:
Originally Posted by Fry
I wouldn't be boasting about the others never being relegated as there's one thing you're omitting -THEY'VE NEVER BEEN PROMOTED!!!!! :D
if the Pats players are so good (better than Bohs/Rovers) the manager would not make that much of a difference. The simple fact is they are not as good. That is why Bohs and Rovers are battling to WIN the League and Pats are battling to STAY IN the League.Quote:
Originally Posted by kdjaC
Wish them all the best as would not like to see them go down but do stay real with your player judgements :)
Strong rumours from Inchicore about Stephen Kenny joining Pats from start of next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
I would not be surprised to see a tempory appointment made until the end of this season to facilitate this arrangement. Pure speculation but if Jeff Kenna heard any such rumour it may have influenced his "back me or sack me" stance when he met with the board.
presumably if things do not work out at Pats then SK can made another prodical son return to Derry ;)
Em, I am from Dublin, the League of Ireland Community in Dublin is relatively small. I have no knowledge of the internal workings of any club outide of Dublin. I am at an age where my contemporaries are now involved in other clubs at director/offficer levels.Quote:
Originally Posted by dong2008
I don`t need to be a mind reader to know that Kenny looked for the Rovers job to be offered to him and then wouldn`t apply. Pure speculation on my part that he didn`t do so because he didn`t want to risk being turned down.
If you want to get to know my sources I`ll send on your details and see if any of them are interested in getting to know you;)
Only if we appoint another bolter like Fenlon.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinobohs
I'd imagine we'll go local and low cost, although our Board do have the ability to constantly surprise me, and not necessarily in a good way.
Pats, Cork and Bohs have never been promoted either. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shelsman
It is possible that Kenny could be looking for a new challenge as he seems to have taken Derry as far as he can with regard to the league but if the story that he is leaving because he is not happy about the cuts at DCFC are true then is Pat's the best choice? They are not in Europe next year and already made cuts to their playing budget this year and having not qualified for the Europa League next year the budget could be cut further.
In all this speculation of possible managers the one that hasn't been mentioned managed the team that knocked Pats out of the cup and thats Stephen Henderson. Young manager, has built two teams capable of challenging for the 1st Division title. I think he's worth a punt by an established Premier Division club (depending on promotion/relegation of course).
Jesus, I thought you lot could not wait to get rid of him ! Please, please make up your mind :DQuote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
fenlon (left once) = "bolter" Stephen Kenny (possibly twice) = legend ???
Bit of a ropey appointment if you ask me. There's no way adults will put up with his "man management" style and tactically he's a bit clueless.Quote:
St Patrick’s Athletic would like to announce the appointment of Pete Mahon as manager of the first-team for the remainder of the 2009 season.
Maurice O'Driscoll will continue in his role as caretaker manager for this evening’s Setanta Sports Cup fixture against Derry City.
Pete will begin in his new role from tomorrow.
“I’m delighted to have a man of Pete’s experience in charge of the team at this point in the season.
Hopefully he can make an immediate impact, beginning with this Friday’s game at home against Cork City”, said the club’s CEO, Richard Sadlier.
Which is how he did so well with us. Nearly saved us from relegation, got promoted with a record points tally, League Cup Final, FAI Cup semi, league Cup semi, top half of the league, all on the smallest budget in the Premier. Obviously a tactical dunce.
Best of luck to him. Interesting to see how he gets on.
Still a bit dubious if you ask me. There are always rumours flying around and if you, as a Bohs fan, believe all that is coming from the Hoops camp then you are pretty naive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
It seems that there is some truth in this. Expect John Gill to be announced as assistant to Pete Mahon to the end of season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dunny
Afraid the same can not be said about his stay at Dalymount. appaling man management and completely out of his depth. Hopefully for St pats he has improved since then but the impression was one of a small club man unable to cope with any level of expectation.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Can't imagine there being much in the way of expectation down Richer way at the moment. Avoid relegation; a target he knows well how to achieve.
hmmm for this season maybe(given where things are) but longer term - even next season - I suspect a lot more would be expected of whoever gets the job longer term. To be fair agree that at least he is experienced and with so little of the season to go that is an advantage for PatsQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Rogers was atrocious when he was with us, think it was 2006. He made some poor decisions and that's why he only lasted a year.Quote:
Originally Posted by noisecontrol
I was surprised with how well he played against us last year for Galway but what I've seen of him this year for Pats is what I remember from his time down here.
I think ive said it before that he(Gary Rogers) always seems to play well against Dundalk!!!
On the Mahon appointment,shrewd move from Pats IMO,he will easily guide them to safety.I think only under Kenna would they have been relegation material
First your looking for sources, then you tell me not to believe them! I dont know on what basis that you are asserting that a post of mine is dubious, I would suggest that there is nothing in my record of posting here for you to jump to that conclusion. I know who to trust and if the gossip is credible enough then I will continue to post it. If I am found to be wumming I would expect a ban. If you want to ban credible rumours from being posted you can report me "dong".Quote:
Originally Posted by dong2008
I wouldn't actually disagree with Sheridan's assessment too much. I laud and greatly respect Pete's reorganisation of the club following the deterioration of its structures under Doolin. However, I understand his man management was rubbing young players up the wrong way, particularly towards the end. I think it may have been an added factor in Conan's departure. While I don't think he was a poor tactician I didn't consider him a great one either. I feel his over tinkering with line ups and players' positioning added to our poor showing in the latter half of his last season. I think Pete's main strengths at UCD were his organising of the club structurally and eye for young players (supplemented by a good network).Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
I think he is a good short term appointment for Pat's and his experience should be beneficial in seeing them through the remainder of the season. At over 60 years old I don't think it's a long term one though.
Is he the greatest manager ever? No. Is he tactically "a bit clueless"? No. (As you say) Were there worse options available for Pat's? Definitely.
I think there were more problems in the team last year than just tinkering with positions and what have you. Complacency from the older players, a weak squad compared with the rest of the division, no forwards (without which we couldn't find the net to save our lives, which led to low morale) and other factors. I don't think one season (one half-season even; we were out of the relegation zone into the last round of games) should colour four seasons of relative success unduly.
I haven't heard anything linking Pete with Conan's departure, but will bow to you if you've heard otherwise. Conan went for a position within the club which was then cancelled, and he took a similar position at Fungus. There was a distinct lack of communication, but I don't think Pete was to blame there. Again though, you may have heard other stories.
I've heard rumours of man-management alright, although very few players left the club for that reason that I'm aware of, and fewer went on to be successes elsewhere. I don't think that's a coincidence. Sheridan's comment that "adults" won't put up with his man-management style is obvious trolling on his behalf given that we had plenty of non-students in our team in the past few years.
But sure, time will tell.
Did you just answer yourself there?
:p
I don't know...?
I think Pete's a lot better than Sheridan's making out. I think Sheridan says a lot of things to get a rise out of people, and this may or may not be one of them.
Does that answer the question I'm not sure I posed myself?
The players let us down badly but I feel there was enough quality in there to have kept us up. I feel Mahon ran out of ideas in the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
As I said, it was an added factor. I've heard he didn't like Mahon's management style at all.Quote:
I haven't heard anything linking Pete with Conan's departure, but will bow to you if you've heard otherwise. Conan went for a position within the club which was then cancelled, and he took a similar position at Fungus. There was a distinct lack of communication, but I don't think Pete was to blame there. Again though, you may have heard other stories.
Sheridan's a bit of a contrarian, a lot of his comments have to be taken with a grain of salt. I was just saying that there was an element of truth in his post.Quote:
Sheridan's comment that "adults" won't put up with his man-management style is obvious trolling on his behalf given that we had plenty of non-students in our team in the past few years.
But sure, time will tell.
the longer in the past Mahons Bohs tenure is, the less inclined i am to blame him for what happened with our team post-Roddy. Granted, he may have not had the personality to cope with one of the bigger jobs in the league but he did some great work in the club with Roddy and that has been forgotten. I am more inclined now to blame the players that were at the club then who, for all intents and purposes, appeared to just stop playing for the guy. He totally lost the dressing room and really quickly. As fans, we reacted poorly when he left.
Compared to the spoofers we have had since, he stands up quite favourably.
I hope he can do a good job at Pats. Bohs Pats games were always my favourite fixtures.
Gill confirmed by Gill as assistant.
True, that's all he has to do this year. Not the worst short term appointment. Can't see him being the long term answer. Would be quite happy with S Kenny for next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
(Wasn't that the sequence of managers at Bohs post Roddy ? Mahon, followed by Kenny - Seemed to work out well last time ;):D )
To be fair, it would take a bit more to fall under that category. No fear of it being called that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
Best of luck to Pete Mahon at Pats. There should be a real buzz about the place for the game against City on friday night.
Dont count on it:(Quote:
Originally Posted by sheao
Take a draw tbh
His first game "re-unites" him with Doolin?
Excellent! He'll be well up for that one anyways.
Best change you username so....SadSaint? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by PartySaint