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Get the feeling Bohs wont make the same mistake again in the cup, not that it matters now.
Have to get a result in Drogheda, I know people were disappointed about Galway winning but at least now we have a little gap from Bray and Friday's game is massive.
the truth is last nights results is only a good one if we get something out of fri game.hope we push on from here and not a false dawn like the pats game
. well dont to the lads last night keep it up
I would have though most people know that any form of abuse of fans, officials and/or players in any form at LOI grounds is absolutely condemed by the FAI and stated in the ground regulations for attendances at matches posted in match programmes.Quote:
Originally Posted by celticV3
I would have thought accusing someone of being a Nazi falls into that category.
Will the offenders offer to pay the ban if Rovers are fined??!!
People should just drop the McGuiness thing and move on, its like the Sean Conor obsession - Get over it.
McGuiness got his punishment who cares what happens to him after that.
As a Rovers fan what I am more concerned about is some fans behaviour such as Taunting an elderly man in his 80's at the recent Bray away game and signing the McGuiness song at the Bohs away league game (we lost 2-0) where there was a Boys U-12 team guest of Bohs on the other side of the gangway to Rovers fans as well as the coin throwing incident at the League Cup Semi Final all leaves a bitter taste in the mouth.
Some people need to grow up and cop on.
'taunting' an old man in bray? go way and get a sense of humour.
The above is the only thought to go forward with, last nite was great but friday is crucial (i.e. more important) - lets get to drogs in big numbers and hopefully support the team and put some distance between us and the bottom 2 and hopefully catch the krusties!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by roversman
To be fair, it was the first opportunity for many Rovers supporters to let him know that his behaviour was unacceptable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guts&Glory
I think the song is class except for the last word , maybe a less offensive word could be used instead , seemed to unsettle him last night considering he gave away the peno.Quote:
Originally Posted by showgies
Could anybody make out what the Bohs were chanting at Cookie last night, I couldn't make it out myself!
Extratime saying attendance was only 1004! it was surely around 1500-1800 region ?
bohs fans were singing something along the lines of 'paul cook throws the game'
the mcguinness thing seemed to unsettle him, although maybe it was just coincidence he played poorly. awful error for the penalty and a couple of other things too. he was only good in the air, anything on the ground he was dodgy
Do you really think players and officials haven't been "abused" for years and will continue to be for years to come? It's a banner, get over it. It was done to unsettle the fella and to show him how we felt about it, and it succeded. It was tongue in cheek.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guts&Glory
Some people need to grow up and cop on?? Nah thanks. Its a bit of craic, not the end of the world.
Sweet, the perfect Rovers fan. If only we could clone you. Do you really expect McGuinness to receive no abuse?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guts&Glory
The only problem was calling him a Nazi. Didn't even make sense. Racial abuse to counteract racial abuse.
Was Fenlon complaining to the officials at the start about the banner?? He seem annoyed about something...as usual!!
Personally I taught it was brilliant, pure genius from forza. Well done to all invloved with it.
Don't think theres much hope of us escaping a fine for it tho, the FAI could do with the income.
I was looking at him before the game and he looked very uncomfortable, good chance it got to him as it was his mistake that lead to the penalty.
To be honest, I don't think we will. Drogs group, the Famous 45, had another one of these "offensive banners" against Dundalk. "The positive side of diarrohea". And an image of a Drogs fan ****ting on a Dundalk crest, and they weren't fined.
There was nothing wrong with that banner, nor with this one.
As far as I know a "Nazi" isn't a race of people Rory!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rory H
The banner was spot on. Should be left at that now though.
There are an awful lot of things classified under racist these days, without taking purely race into it. As you said, lets move on.
I looked at it and thought it was good, but when you read behind the lines, why use the word Nazi???
Made no sense....
because the Nazis were renowned for producing dodgy centre backs...Quote:
Originally Posted by Shedzer
Aren't people very forgiving about the whole Nazi comments. Don't seem so many to have been as forgiving about the comments from McGuinness. I think the 'song' is a joke as well. If people are all on for forgetting everyone and moving on maybe they should start looking at themselves first
nah we'll give him another bit next week and leave it at that hopefully
I thought it was just what was needed. It unsettled Fenlon and players, and gave us an extra bit of edge. It also showed that we will not accept anyone coming down here and abusing our players, and expecting no reaction from us.
Fenlon and Co got an answer from the farmers field. Well done Forza.
Well the Nazi comments make sense when talking about present neo-Nazis as they are generally white supremacist groups rather than political organisations.
I assume that was the intended use of that particular abuse and I don't understand how that could be defined as racist?:confused:
That's not to say it was acceptable in the eyes of those that matter in the FAI....
Whatever bout nazi banners,beating the league champions,taking a valuable 3 points etc... the only thing that will stay in my memory from last night was the performance of Gavin Peers, the man is an absolute HERO, tackle after tackle, header after header, block after block....Non stop commitment and a real leader is what weve been missing without him. The guy could barely walk at the end of it all and lets just hope we can keep him fit for rest of year and we WILL be ok.
This whole banner / song thing is getting blown way out of proportion.
If the 'shoe was on the other foot' and it had happened a bohs player i'm sure their fans wouldnt let it go and would probably go a lot further.
You'd think by reading some posts we had a troublesome set of supporters when in reality its quite the opposite.
They get behind every player, every game.
If highlighting that racisim isnt acceptable is the worst thing that Sligo Rovers fans do this season well that cant be bad,
especially when you contrast it against what some other clubs fans get up to
Maybe everyone should sit down, occasionaly sing ole,ole,ole and wear big silly hats and hope that no one ever gets offended even if they offend us first
I for one expect a message of congradulations from not only the FAI but also FIFA for what Mc Guinneass got tonight.
He racially abused one of our players because of the colour of his skin and if people on hear had heard the utter bile that was directed at Boco for 90 minutes I dont think they would be as quick to defend Mc Guinneass.
He got what he deserved and was shown that Racism will not be tolerated on the pitch or in the terraces.
As for the facist remark, well Facists are generally known as white supremacists with a nasty racist undertone and it begins with N so I think it was quite apt.
We showed Racism the Red Card tonight and if there were more fans like that in Europe you wouldnt get the sickening Moneky chants or bananas being thrown at players.
Sepp Blatter and John Delaney please forward all thanks to Forza Rovers.
N for Nitwit wouldn't have had the same effect I think.
I have been meaning to post a comment re: Peers over the past number of days but this post says it all. He is a HERO. I think Rovers are half the team without him in it. He is, in my opinion, one of the top 3 defenders in the league, totally committed, has excellent displicine record, gives everything he has, wins tackles, wins headers, leads, and is a great footballer. Comapre him to the likes of Almedia/Camano/Ventre - there is no comparison, absolutely no comparison. Ive heard that Peers was very eager to get back playing in the last few weeks and in my opinion he is a Rovers Legend, one of the best players over the past 3 years without a doubt!! Himself, Raf and O'Grady are the heart and soul of this team!! All 3 are worth every penny they are paid!!Quote:
Originally Posted by 1st time post
Where the hell are you, Da Real Rover, Sepp Blatter is all over Sligo looking for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Da Real Rover
Ventre's and Peer's training session with the Ballisodare United under 12's on Monday evening last obviously did the trick.
Most likely outside Foleys perving at young ones going to the underage disco in envy...Quote:
Originally Posted by avvenalaf
According to the Sligo Champion yesterday Chris Turner is on his way back to full fitness after his long lay off due to injuries sustained in a motor accident.
If only it were true...:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Redie
The most sensible post on the issue..i agree 100%...i think the Forza boys are great supporters and vital to the club but if ye think the banner or chanting made McGuinness play poorly or affect him i'd have to disagree..he's a professional footballer...some of the comments about racism are a bit naive aswell..i agree totally it should not be tolerated 0n the pitch on the terraces or anywhere in society..but ive been going to the Showgrounds for a fair few years and have heard people in the home support say pretty nasty things about both home and away players of different races and although not as much in recent times it does happen so no club is whiter than white...Quote:
Originally Posted by 1st time post
will prob get slaughtered for this post but just call it as i see it..not trying to p anybody off....anyway as above post said 3 points against the double winners and the unbelievable Gavin Peers is what i'll remember.
Mcguiness acting like a fascist on the field deserves criticism off it, simple as. Anyone who acts so disgracefull as a "professional" leaves themselves open to be singles out for acting in such a disgusting manner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guts&Glory
I do not know what the sean connor obsession is?:confused: But seeing as that was the first time Mcguiness played in the showground sinces the game where he constantly abused boco then a reaction is obviously expected from the home fans?Quote:
People should just drop the McGuiness thing and move on, its like the Sean Conor obsession - Get over it.
Hopefully the young lads asked an adult with them to explain the situation and they were able to get a valuable lesson in racial awareness. I don't know why your asking for this censorship of a song linking a racist player to other racist organisations, its a very logical connection to make.Quote:
and signing the McGuiness song at the Bohs away league game (we lost 2-0) where there was a Boys U-12 team guest of Bohs
It was his first game back to the showgrounds and the Forza rovers lads made a banner highlighting the fact that his actions were disgusting. the point was made and I thought it was a great banner well displayed and message sent.
Well there would be no chance of getting a lesson in racial awareness from the people singing the songQuote:
Originally Posted by celticV3
You know this how?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
Having spoken to the man on the Dart on the way back from the game he didnt see the funny side, he was scared and intimidated at a group of young fellas singning at him.Quote:
Originally Posted by CF1989
Bit of craic? Uneducated, poor taste, pointless, yes good craic - NOQuote:
Originally Posted by ARooney28
Celtic V3 "I do not know what the sean connor obsession is?" - Any Rovers Bohs or Rovers Dundalk match from the last couple of years would be evidence enough on that one.
Originally Posted by celticV3
Celtic V3 -
Hopefully the young lads asked an adult with them to explain the situation and they were able to get a valuable lesson in racial awareness.
...and an explanation of all the swear words and torrent of abuse that was shouted from the Rovers fans?? Considering the level of mixed race schools in Dublin a sense of racial awareness is something they already have.
The Nazi comment is the thing that has caused the matter mushroomingQuote:
Originally Posted by Rory H
Had the banner said "Jason - ignorance is no excuse" or the like nobody would have really bat an eyelid.
Anyway it was predominately the same guys, certainly the same that made the banner, that were abusing him at Dalymount for the League two nil defeat and the League Cup game. Enough is enough.
As for cloning me better that the some of the clowns that seem to think they are Sligo Rovers (thereby ignoring the other excess 1,00 people at home games) and that supporting Rovers involves getting ****ed, singning abuse, some not getting into grounds by security for being too drunk, taunting old men, signing songs of vial abuse rows from young kids, threatening officials at Dalymount Park, throwing coins at opposition players and then wondering why more people don't go to Rovers games.
If Rovers get fined for the banner being displayed will you still defend the actions of a few that disguisted so many??