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Sounds like a disaster to me if theres nothing open on the Saturday effectively puts an end to your Friday night as well.
Many businesses of entertainment (including pubs & restrants) are open Friday nights.Quote:
Originally Posted by petef
To davros:
Airlines that fly to Israel from Europe are (airlines from W. Europe are bold, airlines which has that fly twice a day, or more, to Israel are underlined):
British Airways (from LHR),
Monarch (UK) (from London Gatwic),
KLM Royal Dutch Airways (from Amsterdam),
Brussles Airways (from Brussles),
Swiss International Airlines (from Zurich/Gevena),
Lufthansa (from FRA/Munich),
Austrain Airlines (from Vienna),
Air France (from Paris CDG),
Iberia Spanish Airlines ( from Madrid/ Barcelona),
Air Slovakia (from Bratislava),
CSA Czech Airlines ( from Prague),
Alitalia (from Rome/Milan),
Cyprus Airways (from Larnaca),
Finnair (once a week, from Helsinki),
JAT (Serbia&Montenego) (from Balgrade),
LOT Polish Airlines (from Warsaw),
Malev (Hungry) (from Budapest),
Olympic Airways (Greece) (from Athens),
Tarom (Romania) (from Bucharest),
Turkish Airlines (from Istanbul)
AeroSvit Ukrainian Airlines (from Kiev, DNEPROPETROVSK, Odessa & SIMFEROPOL)
Air Croatia (from Zagreb).
El-Al Israeli airlines (http://www.elal.co.il) fly at least twice a day to/from London Heathrow, and also to/from Stansted.
Arkia (http://www.arkia.co.il) operate charter flight to Dublin!
More information you can read in the official Ben-Gurion airport website: http://www.ben-gurion-airport.com
Total adult price 1411.30 GBP (economy)Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldad
Nice one! :rolleyes:
Do you get your own personal flight attendant in a private room?
Think I'll be sticking to Alitallia.
It can't be the offer!Quote:
Originally Posted by Peadar
Their website sometimes does mistakes... Ask the travel agency of them in their London office.
bit generous there only sold 1500 tickets for switzerland .. so something similar for israel I would sayQuote:
Originally Posted by gspain
Think the number was closer to 3,000 because of the number of tickets bought from sources other than FAIreland.Quote:
Originally Posted by zinedineontour
I don't suppose any of ye know what time Israel normally kick off their home games at. A mate of mine confirmed that the date of his wedding is the same day as the match. Please don't tell me that it's an afternoon KO.
Had that with my cousin on the day of the home Iran game :eek: ,went anyway ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie
Didn't miss the actually ceremony(in the morning) so it was no biggie...
I wasn't planning on going to this one anyway. I was just going to plant myself in front of a telly in a pub. Presuming that it's an evening kick off I will still be able to do that. If however it's an afternoon kick off and I end up missing all or some of the match my mate will be getting a right kick up the arse.
The match will not be started during Shabbat... I guess the match will be started at about 8:00pm (6:00pm Dublin time), anyway not before 7:00pm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie
The F.A.I. sold 3,000 tickets for Switzerland in Basle and had 4,000 applicants. They subsequently got some extra tickets not sure how many.Quote:
Originally Posted by zinedineontour
No doubt there were duplicate applicants after last time but definitely 4,000+ Irish fans there.
Israel is a lot more expensive to get to and given the current political situation not that attractive however I still reckon we'll bring 1500+.
Cheers for that. I reckon I should get to see it so. I had thought that there was only a 1 hour time difference between us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldad
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Originally Posted by Paulie
2 hours difference, CET +1, like in Turkey & Cyprus.
Today I read an article in an Israeli website, YNET, that is saying that the Israeli football asscociation axpect to 20,000 Irish fans in Tel-Aviv!
They check the possibily to keep this amount of tickets for Irish fans & work with travel agencies to keep room asspecially for Irish fans!
I would say that if you plan to organize everything by yourself, it's better if you will do it quickly... Because rooms fares will be grown up.
Davros, I think 2000 max, like you.
But I can tell to you that tel-Aviv is very safe, I live in TA and it's not like what you watch on TV or listen to a rodio.
The point of the Iran visa souldn't be a problem, but for any case I will discuss with the Israeli ministry of foreign affairs. I will update you when I have news from them.
No doubt - a la belle madonna - TA is safer than NY, or for the matter Paris (bombs on trains less than ten years ago and theives rampant). The perception is different. Also, other factors come into it. Not only has the country a record of having to switch games suddenly due to security concerns, 'wars' nearby etc, but Israel is fast developing a pariah status. I know of a few fans that are refusing to travel to this game purely for political reasons in much the same vein as they wouldn't travel to South Africa in the eighties. However in normal times and with a 'normal' society, I'd still think 2-3K travelling would be the norm. Don't be fooled by Paris: That was different. For the majority of people in Paris, Tel Aviv just hasn't got enough rip-off Oirish bars for them to travel - not that it has too many buses being turned into convertables.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldad
Definitely - Paris was nearby, cheap and convenient to get to. Israel is a long way away and expensive. Furthermore it was France - recent world and european champswith household names. I know quite a few people who went to Paris that don't go to home games
Tel Aviv is probably a lot safer than Dublin too btw and Paris was bombed when we were there. :)
BTW I checked with the Israeli embassy her ein Dublin and they said no rpoblem re the Iranian visa and stamp. No harm in letting them know in advance though that we did play in Iran and no doubt the 400-500 that travelled will be in Tel Aviv and one fan who also did North Korea in 2002 during the World Cup. He'll have some explaining to do.
There is no danger at all of Irish fans bombing a bar in Tel Aviv - unless of course it was to run out of beer. :)
As I've written, there's no problem to get Israel with Iranian stamps on your passport, but the border police in Ben-Gurion airport don't know anything about our game in Teheran... and it is realy not nice to be investigated by the Israeli police about these kind of questions!Quote:
Originally Posted by gspain
I will make some phone calls to the Israeli ministry of foreign affairs about a month before the game, and I will ask the Irish embassy here to do it also. I'll go to them tomorrow (it is 2 minutes walking from my home).
My dad got an e-mail message from David, a person who responsible about the security section of the Israel embassy in Dublin; He said that Israel has not any problem with that, but if you decide to fly with an Israeli airline (El-Al, Arkia or Isra-air) be ready for many questions about that... I will try to speak with the security department in El-Al about that.
However, today I spoke to the Irish embassy in Tel-aviv and they said they will think what to do & they'll call me back with an answer.
Something else, if you like to see a map of Tel-Aviv surf to this address: http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.c...x=285&down.y=4
Ramat-Gan stadium is up-centre of the map (right from Ganei Yehoshu'a [Yehoshu'a Gardens]).
How far is the stadium from the airport in miles/KMS or in money?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldad
FWIW, El-Al is known to have the strictest security procedures of all airlines, for obvious reasons.
10-15 km from airport.Quote:
Originally Posted by Superhoops
The price is about 100 NIS for special taxi service, or you can get there by train to Bene Beraq station but trains don't go very often on Saturday evening, and this station located at 10 minutes walking from stadium; Price of train in about 15-20 NIS. There no direct bus line from airport to Ramat-Gan stadium.
1 GBP = app. 8 New Israeli Sheqels.
1 EUR = app. 5.5 New Israeli Sheqels.
Top Man, thanks for quick response. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldad
Eldad,
Is there any airport hotels very near the airport. I booked the cheap early Alitalia flight.
Also where it the best area near the sea to look for a hotel? Can you recommend any hotels there?
Nice one..........
I am debating on whether to go to Tel Aviv or not. Was there for work a few months ago and found it incredibly intimadating. I also found it very difficult to enjoy the surroundings given their treatment of the Palestines.
There isn't any hotel in the airport area, or near the airport.Quote:
Originally Posted by slow2anger
Alitalia flight from Milan arrive to Ben-gurion airport at about 2:30am. You will be out of terminal at about 3:00am, than you can wait for a train to Tel-Aviv that depart at 3:45am from airport (duration 10 minute). From TA railway station you can take a taxi to the hotel which you have booked to (cost 20-30 NIS). Another option is to take a special taxi service the hotel you have booked for, it cost about 100 NIS.
The best place for hotels is in the beach area, Hayarkon street.
I'm sorry that I can't recommend about any hotel, and however, it depands on your money... If you would like to stay in a hostel (backpakers) this website is recommended: http://www.hostelisrael.com/ or http://www.youth-hostels.org.il/
Good luck!
You're a legend Eldad, cheers.
It's my pleasure :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Peadar
Ask anything you want to know...
BTW, the new terminal will start to be operated next week.
It will be one of the most beautiful terminals in the world!
http://www.iaa.gov.il/Rashat/en-US/A...ion/Terminal3/
eldad appreciate all the help.
plenty of hotels in Tel Aviv - just google it.
My mates are heading down to the Red Sea for a week - really good deals to be had there.
Renti8ng a car is probably a good idea if you want to see Jerusalem.
I say not... It isn't a good idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by gspain
All tourism places are very close to city centre so you can walk everywhere. Parking is very limited and public transportation network is very good!
Also, daily tours are available ( http://www.egged.co.il/main.asp?lngCategoryID=2069 ), but very exspensive if you ask me... The best way to explore Jerusalem is on foot.
Haifa is a very nice city as well. http://www.tour-haifa.co.il/indexEng.phtml
Thanks Eldad. Looking forward to the trip.
Gary, I went to Jersulam and Haifa in 1999 when we played Cyprus. It was an organised tour and we had an armed escort for the day. The only way to see Jersulam is on foot as every thing you want to see is down back streets. Not sure about parking, I think you would be best to take the train and walk around. Also if you want to go to the wailing wall there was a very long queue so go there early.
I'm sure about parking... don't try it in Jerusalem and Tel-Aviv!Quote:
Originally Posted by slow2anger
And there isn't rail service to Jerusalem, but two bus lines depart Tel-Aviv every 5-10 minutes and go non-stop to Jerusalem ( duration 1 hour).
I remember getting a train to Haifa in 84 and it was a delightful town. Got a lift from a local up to that place with the dome. Jerusalem was by bus and the bus stopped outside the old town. There's no way you'd get anything like a car down those streets. Think the centre of Seville or Toledo and you'll get the idea. If like me, visit the Arab souvenir shop by the dome of the rock. I got my a*se pinched for free there. Well sort of. Bought a postcard to get out sharpish, if you know what I mean. :D
Putting on my anorak here, but Israel seems to extending the railway system a bit since I was there.
Best thing about the place were the kebabs although because of inflation the price went up every day.
Eldad, what is that pickled purple vegetable that was like a cross between a pepper (capiscum) and a tomato that they put into salads and kebabs. I've a workmate from Netanya who hasn't a clue what I'm on about? :confused:
Eldad etc thanks again. I thought there was no public transport on the Sabbath hence the need for a rental car.
Less than 5 months to go now.
In Israel Kebab is called FALLAFEL and it is a kind of fried balls of Hummus and small parts of vegetables. You put it in Pita or Lafa (kinds of bread) with vegetables and chips and eat it... You must try it when you visit Israel - it is sold everywhere in street and very cheap.Quote:
Originally Posted by lopez
I think about what your description, and the only vegetable that I guess is a cabbage.
You are right!Quote:
Originally Posted by gspain
I thought you want to travel around the country for a few days before the game and to stay in TA on Saturday...
On Shabbat you have to rent a car in you want to go from TA to Jerusalem!
When I was there I was living on lamb doner kebabs. Remember a nice one by the inter-city bus station in Tel aviv. 200 shekels (then about £1) one day. Then 205 the next. 210 the day after, due to the inflation of the eighties. I remember a year later finding out the currency exchange and it had risen to 950S to the £ with what was I believe inflation of 400%, although this was nowhere near as bad as that to hit Yugoslavia a decade later where the zeros of the annual figure would take three lines in an A5 size book to write. :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldad
I never tried Falafel there although I used to pop into a falafel take away place in Golders Green when I worked there (and still do occasionaly. Pop in, not work). I'm peeved about the vegetable. My workmate reckoned it was pickled baby aubergine. I thought it might be a turnip (as this was what I saw in the Falafel shop in London). Anyway, as my Boston Celtics Jacketed mate would say: 'Eating is cheating!', and I should move onto other subjects. Is Maccabi still the main beer around?
No chance to do much touring - I arrive at 6am on Friday and leave early am Sunday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldad
U21 game Friday, quick dash to Jerusalem on Saturday and senior game that nightt hen home.
Car rental offices in TA are closed on Saturday, if you want to rent a car you must bring it back to airport which is more exspensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by gspain
U21 game will be probebly very close to TA, in one of suburbs so you can get there by taxi, bus or train.
Also, I must tell you that 26/3 is a Purim holiday !!!
This is a very happy holiday that jews used to be drunken and to wear funny clothing and masks :)
So it would be very exciting to be in TA on Friday night. Jerusalem is more religious city so many pubs and clubs will be closed.