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Dalymounter ......to get more people interested in the league , we need to see good football........................bohs get all the TV coverage , but there brand of football will not attract any new fans ..................it will infact turn current fans away from the league.
you go 1-0 and then shout-up shop........its Pathetic
gwan son get it off your chest lad ,was your lunch money robbed on Doyles corner or something :)
Agree that his post can't be taken seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
The problem is that BSG posts seem to reflect the general attitude within the club based on the actions (and inactions) of the board (and by extension the members).
Are all the current board members absolved from responsibility in your view?Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Are all the club members absolved from responsibility?
Has Gerry Conway not been a pivital figure on all recent boards?
It goes against the grain to wish for a LOI team to lose in Europe, but I certainly do. Progress in Europe and retaining the league title leaves open the possibility that Bohs recklessness and financial incompentence could be claimed as justified......avoiding the sanctions that are thoroughly deserved (even necessary!), and leading to further financial russian roulette. Enough is enough!Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Should the inevitable come to pass.....there will be no joy in me, just a small rekindling of hope that clubs mighht take a more pragmatic approach to responsible management.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
After all the problems over the last few years clubs are still falling into this trap. How can this keep happening. Maybe be good for the league if Bohs were sent down.
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Originally Posted by viagogo
The last few years????
How do you think Rovers won their four-in row? They poached the best players by paying them money that was unsustainable and which ultimately resulted in Kilcoyne cashing in the assett to cover his loss .
Dundalks great team of Mc Conville, Keely, Dainty, King? Built and sustained on the basis of prudent financial management? was it f....k.
Shels overspent but with an added vindictive element of trying to put other clubs out of business, particularly us and Pats.
Derry City, Begging bowl cycle , nuff said`
Cork Celtic, signing George Best on the equivalent in todays money of 15 k a match. City, perennial overspenders due to non payment of taxes (thats alright according to the FAI, they aren`t in breach of the 65%)
Waterford, Flying Bobby Charlton in to play matches ffs. Didn`t work, Bohs beat them 2-0 in Dalymount.
I could add many many more, there nothing new in football, we are all doomed to repeat the same mistakes. the trap is ambitiously or recklessy over-reaching for success. I would reckion that every club at some point,(other than UCD, the High Priests of Fiscal Rectitude)) has done that.
[QUOTE=Partizan;1190080]Some of the comments on bohs web are absolutley priceless. The sheer nonchalance and refusal to come to terms with the financial meltdown that awaits, suggests that you lot will be wallowing in mediocrity for a long time to come.
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You couldnt make that up. :D
Just reading back on your previous posts to try and decipher the source of your bitterness and envy. Other than your obvious amor for the Tallaght Hoops I couldn1t detect anything else given that Waterford are so removed from any notion of rivalry with us. Anyway if we are in the First Division next year we can meet up and you can pour your heart out!:D
QFT. It's good to have some historical context as an antidote to cant and hypocrisy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
And we're still waiting for the Colm McCarthy School of Football Management to post their own accounts.
So technically if Bohs win the league but go over the wage cap is the second placed team in the league awarded the title? Is this covered in the FAI Rules?
Well it depends on the sanctions imposed on BohsQuote:
Originally Posted by Scrufil
My guess would be that they'd keep it
Shels kept it in 2006 so i'd imagine it would be the same
why is that a problem and how does it justify the attacks on his post when its clearly ripping the ****? That was my point. The very fact that we officially now have a problem is more reflective in my view that the general attitude within the club has changed.Quote:
Agree that his post can't be taken seriously.
The problem is that BSG posts seem to reflect the general attitude within the club based on the actions (and inactions) of the board (and by extension the members).
the new ones, yes. See above.Quote:
Are all the current board members absolved from responsibility in your view?
No. I never said that.Quote:
Are all the club members absolved from responsibility?
Yes, See above.Quote:
Has Gerry Conway not been a pivital figure on all recent boards?
Fair enough. You would like to see us lose in Europe and kicked out of the league. Thats what it boils down to no matter what spin you put on it. Its pathetic. For further perspective, see Dalymountrowers excellent post.Quote:
It goes against the grain to wish for a LOI team to lose in Europe, but I certainly do. Progress in Europe and retaining the league title leaves open the possibility that Bohs recklessness and financial incompentence could be claimed as justified......avoiding the sanctions that are thoroughly deserved (even necessary!), and leading to further financial russian roulette. Enough is enough!
Dream on.Quote:
Should the inevitable come to pass.....there will be no joy in me, just a small rekindling of hope that clubs mighht take a more pragmatic approach to responsible management.
yep, Nutsy sent the team out to focus on specifically getting Michael Daly sent off within 15minutes. Busted. Youre a genius.Quote:
Originally Posted by baddebt
The fact the Seanie said that his team wouldnt be bullied by Bohs next time we came to Dundalk had nothing to do with getting your players riled up to the degree that one idiot gets himself sent off, of course.
Pathetic.
The elephant was been in the room for a long time. The fact that the club have belatedly acknowledged the obvious hardly constitutes a change in attitude.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
There is still no evidence of an action plan, other then close the eyes and hope for the best!
No spin needed-Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Out of the league - no; Out of the premier - yes
..... as per the sanctions that the FAI have clearly stated.
If Bohs break the 65% rule and get away with it this year, expect more of the same in the future (from Bohs and others). Dalymountrowers post is interesting if a little mistaken, and is basicallly making the point that financial imprudence has been gone on in LOI for years - more the reason why this madness must stop before the already fragile league totally implodes
If we do, we won't get away with it. No one expects that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
You are fully in agreement with the majority of the new BFC board. What is generating opposition from Bohs fans here is the feeding frenzy of LoI fans, extending even to loyalty to Red Bull Salzburg, and the ignorance and lack of self-awareness displayed.Quote:
Dalymountrowers post is interesting if a little mistaken, and is basicallly making the point that financial imprudence has been gone on in LOI for years - more the reason why this madness must stop before the already fragile league totally implodes
Bohs have been around for close on 120 years, representing north Dublin in association football. We may be in the First Div. next season, but we are not about to disappear and fulfil the fantasies of a college team and some bitter fans of clubs who will never know what it is to be champions.
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Originally Posted by Scrufil
Not according to the Indo article in the first post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
The only FAI word I've seen on it is that they'll be relegated - nothing specifically on whether they'd keep the trophies.
Shels didn't break the 65% rule. It wasn't in yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by City till I Die
Neither will any other teams' football. Fact is that no teams in the league play "good football" so your argument is a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by baddebt
See thats why I think they'd keep itQuote:
Originally Posted by John83
I was going to make a comment along those lines, but I'm going to assume that they're incompetent rather than wilfully publishing falsehoods, so it's kind of up in the air.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
If Bohs (or anyone else) were relegated by FAI sanction, is there a defined protocol for how they are replaced in the Premier Division - is it that the loser of the promotion / relegation play off series gets the spot?
... :oQuote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
No one expects you to get it steveQuote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
We've been bust too. We just seem to be the only club who's ever learnt from the experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
(LOL at all the Bohs fans thanking each other BTW)
With the reported re-signing of Graham Carey and the re-call of Paddy Madden - there does not appear to be any cost cutting at Bohs.
The wage bill seems to be increasing!
Celtic are paying Careys wagesQuote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
of course they are - how silly of me!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Betting Man
LOL, the well known charitable organisation that is CelticQuote:
Originally Posted by The Betting Man
This is something I find very interesting, as in when certain FAI rules are introduced the actual logistics of the rules being put into effect are never discussed to their conclusion by the FAI. The case of what team/teams benefit from the relegation of another (in all cases of relegation be it due to the 'little star effect' or lack of points) seems to be ill defined. As is the case whereby a team wins the league yet breaks the rules in doing so and if in the stripping of a league title this means the title should be awarded to the next highest placed team that have stayed within the rules. Technically staying within the rules could mean that even the 5th placed team, going by recent money going-ons over the last few seasons could be the league winner and retrospectively awarded the title. Much like some Olympic winners have been stripped of Gold and the next placed in order of merit is awarded the prize.
Surely from a selfish (coefficient) point of view we should all be wishing our European competitors well. To hope they get humped is extremely small time.
thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by CMcC
what gets me is, bar Pineapple Stu who at least is consistent in his disdain for all overspending clubs, the complete difference in vitriol for Bohs on one hand and the rest of the clubs who have/had similar problems on the other. Maybe im wrong but i just dont see the same level of contempt towards Drogs, Cork, Derry, Shams, Sligo, Pats - all of whom had in the past or are currently having similar problems.
Most people were wishing Drogs well last year in their European run (despite the extent of their problems at the time) and yet are hoping that Bohs will be crushed (which we probably will anyway) just so we're taught a lesson. I just dont get it.
Im not going to lose any sleep over it but i thought that, when push came to shove, decency and goodwill would prevail in this forum but it appears not. Maybe Bohs have used up all of ours.
Thank you. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Although in my defence, I do support any Irish clubs in Europe. Although that doesn't mean I won't have a good chuckle if they get hammered.
(Also, I think they days of watching the league's co-efficient go up and up are over...)
I'd differ with you there. Until Pineapple Stu's club opens its accounts for scrutiny and we can dissect all expenses and overheads, he and his fellow UCD fans have the least legitimacy in poring over ours.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
It's easy to bump 'sensibly' along the bottom when you know an institutional safety net will save you from oblivion. By and large, people are polite enough not to bring up UCD's special nature, but part of this contract is that they spare us the sanctimonious accountant-speak in return.
yeah but my point being that, irrespective of who he follows or how annoying his posts may (or may not) be, as a poster he treats all clubs with consistency in his quest for integrity, answers and the truth.... ;)
Unlike, say, the Dundalk, Waterford and certain other fans who have posted here just to have a pop at us.
Anyway, the Pineapple reference was a minor and irrelevant part of my original post.
My, but they were short days!Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Do you really believe that a minor contribution to the coefficient is of much practical assistance to the future of League of Ireland football?Quote:
Originally Posted by CMcC
If the price for this is that Bohs miraclously get under the 65% limit, and thus gives encouragement and justifcation for further recklessness by Bohs and others, then this is a price far too high to pay. Its not a small time view, its simply the (very obvious) bigger picture.
Dream on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
[QUOTE=SkStu;1190926]thanks.
what gets me is, bar Pineapple Stu who at least is consistent in his disdain for all overspending clubs, the complete difference in vitriol for Bohs on one hand and the rest of the clubs who have/had similar problems on the other. Maybe im wrong but i just dont see the same level of contempt towards Drogs, Cork, Derry, Shams, Sligo, Pats - all of whom had in the past or are currently having similar problems.QUOTE]
One reason, everyone wants to knock you when you're on top, it's the Irish way!!
I think this is a fine practice and should be strongly encouraged.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
I'm not a Bohs fan but I will certainly be rooting for them (and Derry and Pats) in Europe and good luck to them if they get enough games in Europe for the gamble to pay off. This is almost certainly our last season with full time teams and we'll soon be back to hoping our teams lose by less than 4 goals on aggregate, sadly.
I can just picture you having to hold your sides with every post you read. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Foot.ie's answer to Fr Dougal.
Ah, DCFC Steve, foot.ie's answer to Father Austin Purcell.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve