Which is why i said any team would miss these defenders:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by CSFShels
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Which is why i said any team would miss these defenders:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by CSFShels
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The worrying thing for Fingal is what will happen if they don't achieve promotion this season. Will the plug be pulled?
I'm guessing the amount they're spending on wages is more than about 50% of Premier Division clubs. I'd also wonder how they're staying within the 65% limit on expenditure.
To be fair crowds have been bigger than I thought they'd be but I can't help feeling they could turn out to be another Dublin City.
He's always laughing at you ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lamper.sffc
Most yeah, I'm a jolly kinda guy. And my point was that most other teams don't have that quality of defender anyway and still dont concede 4 goals at home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lamper.sffc
Yes but that still doesnt take away from the fact we where missing 3 of our best defendersQuote:
Originally Posted by CSFShels
any team would miss their 3 best defenders especially when a fullback(who is 5 foot 8) has to play in the centre of defense. Anyway i still think we would have lost the game with or without our injuries. The margin would have been less
Move over ladies,Harps are on their best run of the season!:p
Big one tonight between ourselves and UCD. We need to win to get back on track.
best side of the monaghan home games ive seen so far has been fingal, though i have yet to see ucd or waterford play yet.
Not sure what result I'd like for this game. Suppose I'd be glad of a draw with us winning at home to Wexford. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Lamper.sffc
Haven't seen Fingal play yet this season but from what i'm hearing they better show they want it a bit more in games or UCD will beat them.
To be honest, saying which side looked best when you saw them having mainly all only played each other once is a bit mad. We're in the First Division, results are all that count, Cobh Ramblers were not a particularly impressive side, nor were Dundalk. If you're looking for the most impressive side, in a win, it'll probably always be Fingal, but if they screw it by not being bothered in every game, then its irrelevant, and thats whats happened so far. Shels have probably been the least impressive in their games this season, but at the moment are probably in the best position to win this league. Just off the 2 at the top, with a more in depth squad to last the season, without the problems that seem to be arising at Fingal. As I've said, before though, I reckon one of the other 3 will prove able to finish the race, and we'll finish 2nd, couldn't say who though.
Good win last night. Puts us back on track. Im hoping at least one of the other two contenders slips up this weekend
It was a good result, but not a good performance. If Fingal keep playing like that, they won't win the league anyway. Still a poor side for what's out on the pitch and what's being spent.
I predicted a while back that the number of chances we miss would come back to haunt us. No goals in three games now; Killer's on two in nine, Dave Mac on none in the same time. Need to get back scoring goals. Monaghan, Harps, Arklow and Kildare next up; hopefully we'll get back on form there.
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoversHead
According to shels fans who went to the game Fingal were appalling. Bodes well. If we weren't so bloody bad as well.
Having seen all the top 4 teams play this season at least once Waterford look the best IMO. Was not at Shels Wexford game last week but by all reports Shels where very poor even Keely had some choice words in a post match interview on supporters club website.
UCD looked to reliant on one player and it was just something about Fingal players body language that put me off when I have seen them this year
Tonight I realised we actually are going to win this league, we keep grinding these wins out of nowhere, god knows what we'll be like, when we actually start playing to our ability.
Shels could have finished the game in the first half, they let Mons back into it in the second half and looked very jittery defending a one goal lead. Flood ran his socks off though, even when he was left holding the ball up with little support when Shels were holding onto the one goal lead. Took his (deserved) goal well.
Also, Bermingham's was a nice piece of skill.
This game at home to Waterford is big now. A win next Friday would leave us in a very strong position. As CSF said we will start playing well eventually so the fact that were keeping pace so far is cause for optimism. Id take a play off spot without a doubt but who knows if we can keep grinding out these wins we have a shout at winning the division
Yeah, it really is getting annoying now! :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by CSFShels
I still think that even if someone loses next week in tolka, there's still plenty of time left to recover from it. Should be a good game though, can't wait. We still need to beat Wexford tommorrow first to stay move 3 points clear, but it is gona be a tricky game.
Wexford are a team that will have an influence on who will go up and who wontQuote:
Originally Posted by blue til i die
The game next week against Waterford is a bit meaningless. It's too early in the season. We were atrocious last night. Monaghan were robbed to be honest.
We were crap too, but Monaghan were not robbed, bar a good 15 minute spell in the 2nd half, they didn't deserve the game any more than we did. I maintain that they're a poor outfit, and that Wexford and Limerick are the teams that we should be really worrying about taking points from the top 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeixlipRed
Monaghan deserved a point maximum. Shels were the better team overall.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeixlipRed
Monaghan attacked when you'd expect them to do so- one down midway through the first half. The fact that those attacks looked dangerous had more to do with Shelbourne's panicked defending than Monaghan's attacking brilliance.
How much things can change in 2 weeks
Bloody awful Blues performance tonight. Fair play to Wexford, deserved their victory.
Next weeks game just got a little more important!!
after tonight's result I would say you could be right. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lamper.sffc
Waterford did not play as well as I have seen them play. Wexford played well enough though deserved the win the goal that Waterford scored was nothing short of sloppy from Wexford view point. Obviously very happy with the win looking forward to next Friday already
I don't know if it was physical or mental fatigue or what, but we looked well off the boil compared to recent games.
Youths were first to most things, and looked like they had a better idea of what to do when they got there.
The second Wexford goal was very poor from our defence's point of view too - caught on their heels when the long ball came in, and then badly caught for pace.
No quibbles though, best team won on the night.
Now all wexford have to do is beat Fingal next week :p
Advantage Shels at the moment I'd say for definite. UCD and Waterford beginning to show the signs of cracking that people figured they might, while the Fingal lads seem happy just to collect a nice weekly paycheque and free apartment to live in. We're playing absolutely muck, but keep winning, so it looks bright, as we'll have to start playing well at some point, we certainly have the players to do so.
Is there really much of an advantage to anyone at this point?Quote:
Originally Posted by CSFShels
With just 2 points between the top 4, its as close as was expected. I know ye have a game in hand, but lose next week and its all changed again.
As i've already stated, i'd be pretty happy to take one of the play-off places and i still expect the likes of Wexford and Limerick to have a big say in who goes up.
yeah, Wallace pointed out last week that we're the only team outside the top 4 to beat a top 4 team, ie UCD, and now WD. Were looking very strong at the moment but unfortunately i dont think it'll be enough for a play off place. Those three losses at the start oft the season and the terrible display v Limerick are proving costly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Youths4Ever
20 games to go. The top 4 sides will take points off each other. Need to improve our home form and be more clinical in terms of finishing. 25/1 to win the division.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splurge
80/1 with Boyles.:pQuote:
Originally Posted by 5ForKeeps
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Originally Posted by CSFShels
Cant say that after one round of games. It could all change again next week.
UCD are showing a minor wobble at best thats all and waterford losing one game doesnt mean they are cracking.
You could also look at the shels scenario and say that the fact yous are playing muck will eventually catch up with yous and a lot of those wins could turn into draws and loses. You could say that but who knows. But saying advantage shels is a little premature dont you think.
I think Wexford could come into the hunt, to be honest. Caught the second half against Waterford, and they reminded me of us at times; very organised, playing on the counter, working very well for each other. Mightn't have the guile to keep beating the other mid-table teams, but they'll take more points off the top four anyways.
Shels and Fingal just don't seem good enough to go up; someone said that Shels will go up as they're still grinding results while UCD and Waterford are starting to slip; you could easily argue that Shels' slip is yet to come.
I disgaree that we're dependent on one player (Ronan Finn, I assume) too. Andy Boyle and Evan McMillan are starting to gel at centre half (the goal against Fingal ended a run of five straight clean sheets in a game we were rarely threatened in), for example. We conceded silly goals at the start of the season, but if we can keep racking up clean sheets now, that'd negate Killer's drop off in form to an extent. We've just had three tough games; we've not three games against bottom half sides before hosting Shels. I still think we're not good enough to go up, but let's see where we stand after the next four games.
Advantage us if there were two games in the season left. There isn't.
Yep, good summary. "Advantage" is a worthless concept after 13 games.
I don't expect us to break into the top four this season but I'll be very happy if we finish best of the rest.
As for the winner, it's too close and much too early to call it yet, but it'll be another exciting finish and I think we could have a say in it.
Wexford will definitely have a big say. They've already shown they're more than capable of giving any of the top 4 a scare.
I'm just happy we only have to play them once more and got maximum points off them so far (albeit being quite lucky in doing so)