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16/02/2009, 11:55 AM
holidaysong

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Originally Posted by thischarmingman

First Division Licences:

Limerick Tullamore Town

Limerick 37 was a better name.. :p
16/02/2009, 11:57 AM
Battery Rover

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Originally Posted by R�iteoir

The one thing that jumps out at me from that list is Monaghan being awarded a Premier Licence

Well done to them on that count

Agree well done to Monaghan. We only applied for a First Division Licence as our management only hold UEFA B License and Premier requires UEFA A License but I am working on that already and will be pushing for the Premier one next season.
16/02/2009, 11:57 AM
Longfordian

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

They got one last year too, didn't they?

On Longford's relegation, it could be as simple as not having a CPO this year. Though obviously there may be other reasons.

Edit - that'll tell ya, R�ite�ir! :p

True, we won't be having a CPO this year so that could be it alright. Not bothered really. Roll on the games now.
16/02/2009, 11:59 AM
Jofspring

Cobh getting an A license, is that them gone from the first divsion so i take it?
16/02/2009, 12:00 PM
holidaysong

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Originally Posted by Jofspring

Cobh getting an A license, is that them gone from the first divsion so i take it?

Yes with Kildare County getting a reprieve from relegation.
16/02/2009, 12:01 PM
Jofspring

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Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy

By the way, says the licence has been awarded to Limerick 'FC' and not '37' - another name change, or another error by the FAI

Been back as FC for a while now.
16/02/2009, 12:01 PM
Jofspring

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Originally Posted by holidaysong

Yes with Kildare County getting a reprieve from relegation.

Just heard it on the radio there. sickned, was looking forward to the trip to cobh. Also thought Sporting Fingal would get a Premier License.
16/02/2009, 12:07 PM
HarpoJoyce

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Originally Posted by Jofspring

Cobh getting an A license, is that them gone from the first divsion so i take it?

They have an option to appeal the decision.
Yes at present they are in the 'A' Division.

Are Cobh the first team to be relegated a Division as a direct result of annual Licensing decisions?
And are Kildare County the first to benefit from them?

I mean the year-to-year decisions, I realise the IAG decisions of 2007 needs to be mentioned in any discussion.
16/02/2009, 12:08 PM
Monkfish

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Originally Posted by Jofspring

Just heard it on the radio there. sickned, was looking forward to the trip to cobh.

Kildare has been one of our better trips regarding results and distance over the years so im glad there still in the league however I know what you mean regarding Cobh. :(
16/02/2009, 12:11 PM
don ramo

siad that yesterday, finally confirmed, see ye all in 2 years, hopefully, maybe i migt end up supporting one of ye,:o

one step forward two back for us, seem were the lesson club, the example for the rest of ye,
16/02/2009, 12:11 PM
thischarmingman

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Originally Posted by holidaysong

Limerick 37 was a better name.. :p

It's a bold and brave new experiment. You might be cynical about it but I for one can't wait for their first game, at home to Sporting Fingal Mullingar.
16/02/2009, 12:12 PM
Schumi

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Originally Posted by HarpoJoyce

Are Cobh the first team to be relegated a Division as a direct result of annual Licensing decisions?
And are Kildare County the first to benefit from them?

I mean the year-to-year decisions, I realise the IAG decisions of 2007 needs to be mentioned in any discussion.

Were Shels relegated because of licensing? I'm not sure what exactly went on there. It was in 2007 but was separate to the IAG decisions as Shels were in the premier originally before being replaced by Waterford close to the start of the season.
16/02/2009, 12:15 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by thischarmingman

Athlone Town, Cobh Ramblers, Cork City, Kildare County were given licences on the basis that financial commitments they have made will be honoured within the agreed dates before the start of the 2009 season.

Interesting that Cobh and Kildare's licences are provisional only. I assume Kildare's is provisional based on Cobh's appeal (even though that's not what the article says). Could Cobh lose their A Licence? Or is it just a really badly worded release?

Shels were officially relegated due to deliberate errors in their licence, I think. Which is a slightly different thing.
16/02/2009, 12:15 PM
holidaysong

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Originally Posted by Schumi

Were Shels relegated because of licensing? I'm not sure what exactly went on there. It was in 2007 but was separate to the IAG decisions as Shels were in the premier originally before being replaced by Waterford close to the start of the season.

We were relegated (or not promoted) by the IAG process in December but I don't think the Shels decision came until February so it probably was licencing alright..
16/02/2009, 12:16 PM
HarpoJoyce

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Originally Posted by Schumi

Were Shels relegated because of licensing? I'm not sure what exactly went on there. It was in 2007 but was separate to the IAG decisions as Shels were in the premier originally before being replaced by Waterford close to the start of the season.

I think we are on the same point. I thought Shels were just not part of the restructured Premier Division after the IAG decisions. But is that different from the Annual Licensing decisions?
16/02/2009, 12:18 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by HarpoJoyce

I thought Shels were just not part of the restructured Premier Division after the IAG decisions.

They were. That's why Waterford were relegated and the promoted again.
16/02/2009, 12:21 PM
WoodquayBoy

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Originally Posted by holidaysong

We were relegated (or not promoted) by the IAG process in December but I don't think the Shels decision came until February so it probably was licencing alright..

No, ye were just not invited to join the Premier Division, a new league under new rulers
16/02/2009, 12:21 PM
Battery Rover

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Originally Posted by holidaysong

Good to hear. Well done to ATFC.

Thanks for that. Licensing started in August for me and it feels like a huge weight's been lifted of my shoulders.

I can't wait to get back up to Athlone on Thursday and go on the p*ss with the lads involved.
16/02/2009, 12:25 PM
Longfordian

Well done BR and everyone else at Athlone. I know how much work goes into it. Hope we have ye at home first game of the season!.
16/02/2009, 12:34 PM
dapman1

What are the bets that both Kildare and Cobh are in the first division on opening night?
16/02/2009, 12:36 PM
pineapple stu

At whose expense?

13-team division?
16/02/2009, 12:36 PM
don ramo

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Originally Posted by dapman1

What are the bets that both Kildare and Cobh are in the first division on opening night?

one of us cant, if merview have there licence sorted,
16/02/2009, 12:38 PM
Battery Rover

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Originally Posted by Longfordian

Well done BR and everyone else at Athlone. I know how much work goes into it. Hope we have ye at home first game of the season!.

Thanks for that and to all the other people involved in licensing throughout the league congratulations on gaining you licenses.

It is tough on Cobh but i am sure this is only a blip and that they will bounce back and go onto greater things than they have already achieved in their long proud history.

As licensing pushes the standards forward over the coming seasons it can only benifit the league as a whole.
16/02/2009, 12:39 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by Battery Rover

As licensing pushes the standards forward over the coming seasons

Will it, though? Not sure we've seen any evidence of that in the six or seven years it's been going. Other than that clubs now have yellow paint at emergency exits.

When does the A League start, does anyone know?
16/02/2009, 12:51 PM
Dodge

There's been loads of changes within clubs and grounds since licensing started. Every club officer involved puts in huge amounts of work pineapple, and each one of them is to be applauded
16/02/2009, 12:53 PM
pineapple stu

Probably right. I know a lot of time goes in, but it's wasted if it's painting emergency routes in the ground. Just frustrating at times to see that the most obvious problem - hideous overspending - is still going on practically unchecked.
16/02/2009, 12:54 PM
Battery Rover

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Will it, though? Not sure we've seen any evidence of that in the six or seven years it's been going.

it is pushing standards all over the league in terms of infrastructure and administration and with the new rules regarding licensing passed at the meeting on Sunday there will be severe punishment for clubs stepping out of line
16/02/2009, 12:54 PM
Dodge

I knew you couldn't go a thread without mentioning overspending.
16/02/2009, 1:01 PM
fionnsci

What about Carlow, Castlebar and Tralee? Should they not have been awarded A Championship licenses?
16/02/2009, 1:02 PM
holidaysong

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Originally Posted by fionnsci

What about Carlow, Castlebar and Tralee? Should they not have been awarded A Championship licenses?

There could be a different deadline for first time applicants perhaps..
16/02/2009, 1:04 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by Dodge

I knew you couldn't go a thread without mentioning overspending.

Probably the most important thing, in fairness.
16/02/2009, 1:14 PM
Dodge

Well you're an accountant.
16/02/2009, 1:26 PM
pineapple stu

Guilty as charged. :)

No club went under because they didn't have a separate licencing officer. Not the case with money.
16/02/2009, 1:35 PM
Mr A

Cobh must be in an incredibly bad state to move from premier to A license pending further financial commitments being met!
16/02/2009, 1:50 PM
ramblers

Congrats to all on your licenses.

It is a very sad day to be honest thats all I can say!!
16/02/2009, 1:52 PM
don ramo

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Originally Posted by Mr A

Cobh must be in an incredibly bad state to move from premier to A license pending further financial commitments being met!

no togetherness down here, its a disgrace, i arranged a meetin for fundraising ideas on this and other forums, and 3 people tuned up, says it all really

were either gonna come back stronger, our just flicker out of existence,

we have some new blood entering the board and commitee this year, proactive people so hopefully thing will change for the better,
16/02/2009, 1:58 PM
GalwayRed

Sorry to hear Cobh wont be in the first division next season, hopefully they bounce back. Fair play to Athlone, I can imagine a lot of work must have went in to get that licence so fair play. Im surprised Sporting Fingal didnt get a premier licence, did they not apply for one? Will be interesting to see the fixture list now.
16/02/2009, 1:59 PM
aido_b

I just got a text off a fellow Bohs fan who shall remain nameless asking me why 2009 teams in the league needed licences ... He'd seen the headline on RTE, "2009 FAI licences awarded" ...

I wonder sometimes, really do!
16/02/2009, 2:13 PM
Beezer

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Originally Posted by don ramo

no togetherness down here, its a disgrace, i arranged a meetin for fundraising ideas on this and other forums, and 3 people tuned up, says it all really

were either gonna come back stronger, our just flicker out of existence,

we have some new blood entering the board and commitee this year, proactive people so hopefully thing will change for the better,

How many members did you inform of this meetin DR.I certainly got no notification of such meeting.
As for new blood coming onto the committee,from what I hear the people going forward are worse than the crowd there last year,most of them will be yes men for the chairman
16/02/2009, 2:21 PM
R�iteoir

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Originally Posted by GalwayRed

Sorry to hear Cobh wont be in the first division next season, hopefully they bounce back. Fair play to Athlone, I can imagine a lot of work must have went in to get that licence so fair play. Im surprised Sporting Fingal didnt get a premier licence, did they not apply for one? Will be interesting to see the fixture list now.

Would the Morton Stadium not be up to Premier Standard - because that's the only reason I could think of

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