1. No-one. I was referring generally to any player.
2. Players may make short-term career decisions based on who the manager is..
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1. No-one. I was referring generally to any player.
2. Players may make short-term career decisions based on who the manager is..
Aye, Stu is spot on here.
Fair enough, I was referring to him though. Yeah, players make short-term decisions, but I think a player making a decision on his international future is going to say to himself "it might take me a couple of years to establish myself here, and the manager will probably be gone within a year, so I'd be mad to let it affect my decision." Then again some footballers are mad, but Elliot seems fairly pragmatic about not committing himself.
Trap tracking Elliot, but not Joe Lapira, big news!
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-29141880.html
I didn't comment at the time, but I read Elliots comments, simply as, he has just started playing regularly for a premiership side, and wanted to establish himself there, as it would be prudent - somewhat cheeky - to start flouting himself as an international keeper, but at the same time if he was called up he would be delighted. I think those comments above suggest that.Quote:
Goalkeeping coach Alan Kelly put that to bed yesterday by saying that his counterpart at Newcastle, Andy Woodman, had been in touch to let him know of Elliot's availability.
Deep down that could be as simple as knowing that, he is behind Forster and Hart wont be undone at England level, but I think what he said was very fair.
i'm a newcastle fan and i'm not mad about elliot. he's only played a handful of games due to krul's injury and while he's done ok this season, he did not convince when he appeared last season.
on the plus side he's only 26 so improving and there is decent goalkeeping coaching at newcastle.
Couldnt find a thread on this lad. Has seen alot of time for Newcastle in recent months with Krul out injured.
Problem is for every good game he seems to have, he seems to be matched by a not so great performance. Sent off today in a big game for the toon after an excellent performance against West Ham the previous week after conceding six to Pool the week before that.
Although we have a number of options, we dont have any stand out goalkeeper who looks set to grasp the No 1 jersey for the foreseeable future. Elliott probably deserves some consideration. However, he is young in goalkeeping terms and is likely to be on the bench for alot of next season when Krul returns.
Someone could merge?
http://foot.ie/threads/179401-Rob-Elliott
Gets his first senior call up replacing Darren Randolph
Final 23 man squad
Only just notice that Elliot is playing today as Newcastle are 1-0 down to Southampton. Krul is out for three weeks and possibly the season after being injured in the massacre to Everton.
Missing his own stag do to play for the senior side: http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20140...281670_3844871
His mates are still going, mind.
Fair play. Positive sounds coming out of him.
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Originally Posted by NUFC.co.uk
https://www.nufcblog.com/2013/09/11/...nal-ambitions/
A few good insights in this article (even if it isn't recent); his father's family is from Cork, his family support England in cricket but Ireland in football and Darren Randolph is his best friend in football (having been at Charlton together).
I think he is example to other older players who might want to represent us. While foregoing a stag party may not be the greatest sacrifice in the world, at least it is indicative of a player who seems genuinely interested in playing for us. It is in stark contrast to him who can't be bothered answering his phone to his national coach!Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
Elliot set for a run in the Newcastle first team, Kruhl retruns from international duty with elbow ligament damage: http://www1.skysports.com/football/n...gament-damage-
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never mind, Newcastle hope Kruhl will play this weekend: http://www1.skysports.com/football/n...ter-elbow-scan
Kept a clean sheet tonight and made a good stop to deny Stevan Jovetić as Newcastle knocked Manchester City out of the League Cup with a 2-0 away win.
he made one good save. i still think he's a poor keeper - and i'm a newcastle follower.
Rotten luck. Gets a run in the team owing to Krul's absence and he's picked up a thigh injury that will keep him out until mid-January at least.
Krul out injured again, this time for the whole season, so Elliot should see time in goal for Newcastle
Elliot fit and will start against Bournemouth this afternoon. They were just praising his save from Jonathan Walters' header last week on Soccer Saturday. Arter starts for Bournemouth.
Making save after save to preserve Newcastle's 1-0 lead. The BT commentators raving about him. I have half an eye on it and to be honest most of the saves were fairly standard, spread himself well for one alright.
Edit - Named man of the match by Robbie Savage. The stats for the game are mad, Bournemouth have had 68% possession, shots 19-2, corners 16-0. Only in football!
Named man of the match for basically winning Newcastle the match.
MOTM again yesterday against Spurs, kept Newcastle in it for the first half
Good news.
However, Randolph again on the bench for West Ham. No sign of Given for Stoke. Still injured I assume. Westwood made some excellent saves for Wednesday but needlessly conceded a penalty (at least he went the right way for it - attention Mr. Given) but they still scored. Forde continues to be on the bench for Millwall and didn't even play in the FA Cup game or Football League Trophy game.
Interesting selections to be made there.
I don't envy O'Neills choice for Euros. If Elliot keeps his place in the team and Newcastle don't buy in January he should most certainly get nod in the two March friendlies at least to prove he's capable of doing it at international level.
Westwood would still be my pick for number one, but for some reason he seems to have fallen out of favour with O'Neill and has trouble with injury which may stop him getting a spot in the squad at all.
Given will probably go just for sheer dressing room presence, even though I don't think he should be in the squad at all.
Randolph needs game time, but he'll be in the squad simply because of the part he had to play toward the end of the qualifying.
David Forde has to miss out. Simple as that.
If it were up to me picking the squad as of today, the three goalkeepers, in order of preference, would be Westwood, Elliot, Randolph. Shay Given should be brought in a coaching capacity as there's no doubting the influence he has in around the squad.
Think it is a fairly straight forward choice at the moment tbh. Randolph, Westwood & Elliot are our 3 best goalies at the present time. There can be no room for sentiment re Given & Forde
I thought Randolph was super impressive in the final games of the campaign. His presence, confidence and not to mention his kicking (a massive weakness with Forde). However, he aint going to see much game time with Wham, with the exception of maybe the FA cup. So it is a wonderful opportunity for Elliott now - not as assured by him for some reason.
Yep, I agree. Elliott looks good but Randolph is in possession of the shirt and largely because he took to the role instantly. Lack of game time isn't a great concern just now. There'll be pre-tournament warm ups for that & hopefully he'll get a good FA Cup run. In fairness, Adrian is playing very well. Good keeper I think. Choice of 3rd keeper might come down to personality / presence. Pick 2 keepers on form, the third for his contribution to the camp.
You'd be in with a shout on that basis :)-Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
reminds me of Saipan..........Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
I read that the squad is doing a warm-up camp in Austria or Switzerland, with Roy's approval. I thought the general lesson of Saipan was "do not travel further east than the host country to acclimatise and then fly back west again"Quote:
Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia
Given their appearance stats during shared time at Charlton it seems they considered Elliot the stronger of the two.
One thing i have liked about oneill and keane, completely different to other managers we have had, since and including mccarthy, is they will shake it up change it as they see fit. If Elliot keeps his place, and he is getting the odd MOTM award, he has to be a starter come June. He is our highest playing keeper on a consistent basis. Randolph did one good kick out, and he seems a messiah almost, and a dead cert. He was poor in Poland. And in friendlies previously he was too especially against Spain in America.
I thought he was poor in that Spain game too. Jury is out on the Poland performance. I thought he could have done better with each goal though Coleman did him no favours for the second and there was talk of a deflection for the first. He did make a great save one-on-one quite late and he also made a super one-on-one save in Bosnia to keep it at 0-0, a potential tie-changer. His biggest assets are his kicks and his confidence which he transmits outwards to his defenders. If we're to judge by the same standards I thought Elliott was beaten a bit too easily for one of Turkey's goals. I think it was Turkey anyway. Elliott's recent club form is important though, no doubt.
I think its very exciting that we could have ellliot and arter starting come June, that will hopefully be consistent premier league performers and playing well. We can't throw out the players mainly from the championship crap then.
What Championship crap? If Elliot comes in he'll replace two goalkeepers at PL clubs in Randolph and Given. Ironically enough, most of us here consider our best goalkeeper to be Championship based Westwood. What Championship crap player do you see Arter replacing? Hendrick is probably our only Championship based midfielder that starts and you can hardly knock his contribution to our campaign so far. I don't think Arter is a like-for-like replacement for him anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
No i mean, the way everyone says championship players, as a way of slating or underplaying our ability. I think that they put reserve players or backup players at PL clubs in the same bracket as championship players.
I am agreeing with you, we have almost a complete 11 that plays in the premiership.
Good interview with him here
http://www.theguardian.com/football/...steve-mcclaren
Saw the Newcastle v Everton game today - Elliot made five decent saves but I don't remember him competing strongly for dangerous crosses throughout the game and at the end it was an indecisive punch from a corner that led to Tom Cleverley's free header to an empty net. He's definitely put himself into the frame for the international side after his last few performances so I guess the question for the March friendlies is: does Randolph keep the shirt, on the basis of his performances in the qualifiers, in spite of being on the bench for West Ham, or do we blood in Elliot, as our only goalkeeper playing in the EPL?