Keane Walks Out On Sunderland

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04/12/2008, 11:45 AM
seanfhear

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Originally Posted by pete

The Irish fans? ;)

good one:D
04/12/2008, 11:52 AM
holidaysong

Been watching Sky Sports News for the last hour. Loads of emails coming in from angry Ireland and Sunderland 'fans' - one guy said this was the second time Keane had stabbed Irish fans in the back.. :o

Funny stuff.
04/12/2008, 11:53 AM
Drumcondra 69er

In response to the original question posed, he hasn't been playing many of the Irish lads regulalrly so it won't do them much harm. All depends who the new boss will be....
04/12/2008, 11:55 AM
bennocelt

I'm gutted - Cant believe he walked away from this - what a ****:mad:

As some one else said - 70 million
Look at Hull, look at Boro, look at Stoke, look at the job Kinnear is doing - so yeah he blew 70 million on rubbish players

(one up to the anti- roy brigade)
- maybe i was wrong about him after all:confused:
04/12/2008, 11:57 AM
gustavo

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Originally Posted by smasher

This guy spends 80 million plus, mostly on sub standard players, eg Chimbonda, Yorke,Harte, Chopra, Tainio, Malbranque, Cisse, Diouf , McShane, Stokes, O Donovan etc. I have more than likely forgotten the rest, there has been so much money wasted. Then you lot say give him a chance! How many of you will be following Sunderland after he either jumps ship(again) or he is pushed?
Get off the stage!

I'd hardly call Cisse and Malbranque substandard
04/12/2008, 11:58 AM
OneRedArmy

The burning question is where will all the noveau SundIreland fans go now?
04/12/2008, 11:58 AM
smasher

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Originally Posted by jbyrne

he was in trouble last season yet saw it through and they stayed up so your comment is nonsense. he took them over when thay were near the bottom of the championship and steered them to a very impressive league win and promotion. how many other sunderland managers have managed promotion and kept them up the following season?

How many Sunderland managers have got the cash he got?
He walked in Saipan and he's walked away again. Do you not detect a vein of consistency here?
04/12/2008, 11:59 AM
Longfordian

40 quid into the kitty for me, presuming he doesn't do a U-turn. All very necessary at this expensive time of year.
04/12/2008, 12:00 PM
Claret Murph

Very simple he wasn't up to the job , he spent �70 million or what since he was there .

LOSER .:)
04/12/2008, 12:04 PM
Buzzer

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Originally Posted by geysir

He indulged in a bit too much shopping therapy at Woolworths, afterwards complaining that the goods were faulty, also complained that there was no remote control in the package.

Meanwhile other managers who shopped at similar stores were able to repair any faults and embarrassed him. But Roy still persisted in complaining about the faulty goods.

He did provide a retirement home of sorts for our veteran players but then he would chuck them out in the middle of winter.

lost the plot...big time...putting players on t/lists 'cause they're late instead of calling them aside...buying chimbonda!!!! my god the man could 'cause friction in a silent order,not to mind a soccer club...5.5mil for chopra..loaned back to cardiff a year later...8.5 for "better then by brother" ferdinand....west ham were laughing all the way to bank..and a host of cork players who went out on loan as soon as they came in....christ he took cork out of a fair hole(where's the roy wonder from again??).
cancel the direct flights from cork...no more s/land jerseys at the cork matches.
think you will get those jerseys for about a fiver from tomorrow on.
wait you see the cork lads up in arms now about his departure....
like the hurlers"we may not always be right,but we are never wrong!!!!!"mindset
04/12/2008, 12:07 PM
lionelhutz

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Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er

Incorect, Keane had a bigger budget then anyone bar Birmingham that season (who sold Heskey, Pennant and then Upson to generate it) and had a higher net spend then anyone in that league. He was also able to offer lower level Premier league wages to attract the likes of Connolly, Miller, Kavanagh etc back down to the Championship.

The excuses being trotted out by those still blinkered for his failure are embarrassing at this stage. Is Sunderland any less attractive as a destination for a player then Wigan for example? Or Hull for that matter?

Exactly. Would Cisse, Chimbonda, Malbranque, Ferdinand or Richardson even consider signing for the likes of Wigan, West Brom, Hull, Bolton, Stoke or Fulham? I don't think so. And 5 of those clubs are ahead of Sunderland in the table - some considerably ahead.

As well as that, I don't rate the 5 players above or tbh any of the players he signed this season. His transfer dealings have been awful and he hasn't been able to get any consistency of performance out of his players. Damning indictment for any manager.
04/12/2008, 12:09 PM
pete

Far from convinced that Keane will make a good manager. He seems to have a confrontational management style which rarely works.

Aside from getting Sunderland promoted he has not done anything else. He has not improved any players & his team do not play good football. From what I have seen seems to be a lot of long balls.
04/12/2008, 12:11 PM
OwlsFan

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Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

The burning question is where will all the noveau SundIreland fans go now?

Go back to supporting Man U ?
04/12/2008, 12:13 PM
Billy-Green

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Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er

Got lucky with Andy Reid hitting form after he bought him last season, would've gone down otherwise.

Ye really lucky, imagine a manager buying a quality player to help them stay up and then the player actually playing to his abilty that the manager knew he had and keeping the team up :rolleyes: total luck
04/12/2008, 12:17 PM
Razors left peg

there a very few managers that are a total success in their first job ,he has made alot of mistakes at Sunderland but he has also shown in getting them promoted and keeping them up last year that he still has a big future in management. He will learn from this and be better for it in the future
04/12/2008, 12:25 PM
Drumcondra 69er

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Originally Posted by Ciaran

Whatever you say about him the feat he achieved of a giant u-turn in his first season was nothing short of incredible. He did this without any top class players or expensive signings, just making the most of what he had and brought the best out of the likes of Connolly, Whitehead and Murphy. Then made a shrewd signing in Carlos Edwards and totally transformed previous waster like Nosworthy. He only lost once in 23 games in the second half of that season and it was nothing but sensational management that got them promoted.

The problems began after that when Keane was given money to spend. I think his single biggest problem was that he didn't show enough faith in the players he had, replacing most of them as soon as possible. What was initially a positive feeling soon turned negative, and even worse the season after with the likes of Diouf, Chimbonda and Cisse being dragged in. They could have been the makings of a great side otherwise.

As posted above.

Incorect, Keane had a bigger budget then anyone bar Birmingham that season (who sold Heskey, Pennant and then Upson to generate it) and had a higher net spend then anyone in that league. He was also able to offer lower level Premier league wages to attract the likes of Connolly, Miller, Kavanagh etc back down to the Championship.
04/12/2008, 12:27 PM
Ash

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Originally Posted by elroy

Hard to see what job he'd go to next.

Cork hurling manager ... sound like they'd be a good match for each other :p
04/12/2008, 12:32 PM
Drumcondra 69er

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Originally Posted by Billy-Green

Ye really lucky, imagine a manager buying a quality player to help them stay up and then the player actually playing to his abilty that the manager knew he had and keeping the team up :rolleyes: total luck

:rolleyes:You think they'd have stayed up if Reid had been in his current form last season? After the amount of sh1t players he'd bought he was bound to get lucky once.....
04/12/2008, 12:34 PM
Razors left peg

nice to see it gives all the Roy Keane haters something to be happy about for a while anyway!!
Maybe Sunderland should give the job to a good manager like Mick McCarthy..... oh wait, how did he do with them again;)
04/12/2008, 12:37 PM
SunderlandBohs

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Originally Posted by jbyrne

he was in trouble last season yet saw it through and they stayed up so your comment is nonsense. he took them over when thay were near the bottom of the championship and steered them to a very impressive league win and promotion. how many other sunderland managers have managed promotion and kept them up the following season?

Peter Reid!
04/12/2008, 12:38 PM
as_i_say

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Originally Posted by Razors left peg

nice to see it gives all the Roy Keane haters something to be happy about for a while anyway!!
Maybe Sunderland should give the job to a good manager like Mick McCarthy..... oh wait, how did he do with them again;)

promoted them and relegated them. history may repeat except mick spent �4m on players compared to Roy's �80m:eek:
04/12/2008, 12:41 PM
Wolfie

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Originally Posted by elroy

Hard to see what job he'd go to next.

Sam Allardyce?
04/12/2008, 12:43 PM
Billy-Green

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Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er

:rolleyes:You think they'd have stayed up if Reid had been in his current form last season? After the amount of sh1t players he'd bought he was bound to get lucky once.....

Why dont we say he wasnt lucky with reid but rather he was unlucky with the rest
04/12/2008, 12:43 PM
Jacktheman

Mick McCarthy had �4m to spend , Keane had �70m i wonder why Mick couldnt keep them up :p

MMC is top of the table on a shoe string budget ye have to hand it to him he is a great Manager unlike mr sulk
04/12/2008, 12:43 PM
Hibernian

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Originally Posted by Claret Murph

Very simple he wasn't up to the job , he spent �70 million or what since he was there .

LOSER .:)

and how many champions league medals have you got?

what a plonker

He was not up to the job at Sunderland I will put my hat up there but to call him a loser well thats just daft as hell.

get your head out of the bucket and get a life.
04/12/2008, 12:45 PM
SunderlandBohs

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Originally Posted by as_i_say

promoted them and relegated them. history may repeat except mick spent �4m on players compared to Roy's �80m:eek:

Another very good point. He wasted about 30m on duds. will bhe interesting to see what a top manager can do with that squad. If you look at the facts Mick McCarthy did a better job than Keane. He's to get rid of half his squad and had no money to buy replacements. And he didn't have the backing Keane had.
04/12/2008, 12:45 PM
Scram

SPOT THE COMEDIAN !!

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...keane466_2.jpg

Aw bless, he's taken to sucking his thumb!

http://media.monstersandcritics.com/...ckhitchcox.jpg

"Who the **** do you think you are, having meetings about me? Mick, you're a liar... you're a ****ing ******. I didn't rate you as a player, I don't rate you as a manager, and I don't rate you as a person. You're a ****ing ****** and you can stick your World Cup up your arse. The only reason I have any dealings with you is that somehow you are the manager of my country! You can stick it up your ********!!!"

ps. the entire Sunderland thing was a Keane conspiracy to bankrupt Niall Quinn.....I kid you not!! :)
04/12/2008, 12:51 PM
Hibernian

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Originally Posted by Scram

SPOT THE COMEDIAN !!

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...keane466_2.jpg

Aw bless, he's taken to sucking his thumb!

http://media.monstersandcritics.com/...ckhitchcox.jpg

"Who the **** do you think you are, having meetings about me? Mick, you're a liar... you're a ****ing ******. I didn't rate you as a player, I don't rate you as a manager, and I don't rate you as a person. You're a ****ing ****** and you can stick your World Cup up your arse. The only reason I have any dealings with you is that somehow you are the manager of my country! You can stick it up your ********!!!"

ps. the entire Sunderland thing was a Keane conspiracy to bankrupt Niall Quinn.....I kid you not!! :)

We are a great country kick our own while we are down.

No wonder there such s*it support at Croke Park when we have the likes of you still going back 6 years to something that really has sweet FA to do with this.
04/12/2008, 12:56 PM
gaisc�och

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Originally Posted by Jacktheman

Mick McCarthy had �4m to spend , Keane had �70m i wonder why Mick couldnt keep them up :p

MMC is top of the table on a shoe string budget ye have to hand it to him he is a great Manager unlike mr sulk

Particularly interested in this part. I'd like you to go see how many players M Mc C brought in. Along with the fees in the Championship.
04/12/2008, 1:02 PM
noby

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

Quote:

Originally Posted by elroy

Hard to see what job he'd go to next.

Sam Allardyce?

What job would he do for Sam Allardyce? Dog walker?
04/12/2008, 1:09 PM
OwlsFan

Curbishley will probably be the next manager.
04/12/2008, 1:12 PM
elroy

He may have spent alot on not a whole lot, but i think he found it very hard to attract a high calibre of player to Sunderland and I doubt many managers would be able to attract the type of players needed to take Sunderland consistently to the next level.
04/12/2008, 1:13 PM
Scram

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Originally Posted by Hibernian

We are a great country kick our own while we are down.

No wonder there such s*it support at Croke Park when we have the likes of you still going back 6 years to something that really has sweet FA to do with this.

Get over yourself :rolleyes:
04/12/2008, 1:14 PM
Drumcondra 69er

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Originally Posted by Billy-Green

Why dont we say he wasnt lucky with reid but rather he was unlucky with the rest

Because frankly that would be b0llox.
04/12/2008, 1:14 PM
holidaysong

Support the club that Keane takes the reins at next?

I'd love to see their faces if Keane were ever to land the Rangers job.. :D :eek:
04/12/2008, 1:19 PM
Billy-Green

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Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er

Because frankly that would be b0llox.

So if any manager buys a quality player and that player plays quality, its luck?
04/12/2008, 1:25 PM
Drumcondra 69er

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Originally Posted by Axe Man

Particularly interested in this part. I'd like you to go see how many players M Mc C brought in. Along with the fees in the Championship.

2003/2004

Players in �450,000
Players out �15,250,000

Finished 3rd, beaten on pens in shoot out of play off semi after a shocking decision to allow a Palace equaliser after a foul on the keeper.

2004/2005

Players in �280,000
Players out �0

Romped the Championship

2005/2006

Players in �3,350,000
Players out �225,000

Left with 2/3rds of season gone, team subsequently relegated.

Your call.....
04/12/2008, 1:35 PM
Drumcondra 69er

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Originally Posted by Billy-Green

So if any manager buys a quality player and that player plays quality, its luck?

No but if a manager has a track record of buying duds (see squad list for evidence but take Chopra and Halford as two sample cases) at extorinate prices and then manages to finally get a player who improves the team it's not an unreasonable assumption to make.
04/12/2008, 1:36 PM
smasher

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Originally Posted by Razors left peg

nice to see it gives all the Roy Keane haters something to be happy about for a while anyway!!
Maybe Sunderland should give the job to a good manager like Mick McCarthy..... oh wait, how did he do with them again;)

M Mc didnt have a buck to spend, keane wasted millions.
Look at Wolves now on a shoestring budget, again.Keane spent loads and still couldnt build a decent team, bought crap and I mean crap.
Walked in Saipan when going got tough and doing so again. Consistent, dont you think? Or maybe the blindingly obvious does no suit,eh?
04/12/2008, 1:38 PM
Hibernian

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Originally Posted by Scram

Get over yourself :rolleyes:

says the man who went on a rant eh

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