That sounds a lot something that has been tried already...Quote:
Originally Posted by blackholesun
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That sounds a lot something that has been tried already...Quote:
Originally Posted by blackholesun
So did Pats actually make any effort whatsoever against Cobh? It certainly didn't look like it on MNS.
They were a disgrace and i doubt if they will be as bad tomorrow night which is shocking.
Didn't watch MNS but i'd be surprised if they showed how bad we actually were.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
A slight mitigation factor was our huge injury list, which saw us name only 3 players on the bench that have never played senior football before. Of the 11 that started, only 4 would be first choice in their positions (and one of them was Barry Ryan, who went off injured at half time)
How many of those injured players are back for tomorrow nightQuote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
None. Derek O'Brien is back from suspension.
Out are
• Dessie Byrne - hamstring injury
• Damien Lynch – ankle injury
• David Partridge – shoulder injury
• Bobby Ryan – knee injury
• Stephen Paisley – groin strain
• Gary O’Neill – groin strain
• John Murphy – back injury
Doubtful;
• Mark Quigley - flu (missed Cobh)
• Barry Ryan - back (replaced at half time v Cobh)
• Gary Dempsey - toe (played 90 mins v Cobh)
We finished the game with Cobh with Jamie Harris and 18 year old debut boy Stephen Fitzpatrick up front
Just to follow on from this. Probably should be in another thread somewhere but what the hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Battery Rover
As things stand we have 22 clubs plus the 3 A Championship sides as well as Kilkenny for arguments sake. That gives us 26 clubs
We could have a league with the top 16 for next season or the season after (or whenever) and then a league with the remaining ten as the first division
You could have 2 teams relegated and one play off spot below that for arguments sake.
That 16 team league might consist of (depending on how financially screwed certain teams are)
1: Bohemians
2: St. Pats
3: Derry City
4: Cork City (I'm assuming Drogs will be deducted ten points this week)
5: Sligo Rovers
6: Shamrock Rovers
7: Drogheda United
8: Bray Wanderers
9: Finn Harps
10: Cobh Ramblers
11: U.C.D.
12: Galway
13: Shelbourne
14: Dundalk
15: Waterford United
16: Sporting Fingal
The first division would then contain
1: Limerick 37
2: Monaghan United
3: Longford Town
4: Wexford Youths
5: Athlone Town
6: Kildare County
7: Tullamore
8: Kilkenny City
9: Salthill Devon
10: Mervue United
I have listed these teams in their current league order so no one can say why aren't we in the premier - It wouldn't be up to me to decide who goes where there would obviously be a licensing committee to decide upon that.
you could maybe talk to the likes of Kerry League, FC Carlow and whoever else to get the first division to a 16 team league.
Obviously the teams in the first division would struggle to get crowds as they wouldn't be facing Shels, Dundalk et al but conversely you might see bigger crowds if marketed properly as teams like Athlone or Monaghan would be doing fairly well in this league and might have a legitimate shot at promotion - especially if you introduced a play off in the first division between 3rd and fourth over two legs to face third bottom in the premier.
The smaller teams - the A champ sides wouldn't need huge gates as they would most likely be amateur.
Its not perfect but no system is, but maybe it's worth debate
I'll leave it up to you to pick holes in. I know the premier looks very interesting and every team in the league as things stand would have a shot at getting to the premier if they had a good season.
i think the idea of a ten team league is to give top teams a more competitive league, where they are challenged every week.
personally i like this structure of 16 because it does more for all the other teams in the league that would give teams a second chance to start again. i think it would revitalise the league. really shake things up. also it would stop these ten teams in the premier next year overspending again in a repeat of this year.
Yes it was, the worst possible solution. Next year, we will have 2 extra away games than this season, and 3, not 1, midweek games, which could be anywhere from Derry to Cork.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
At least with the 12 team league, you'd go 3 months before playing the opposition. With the 10-team league, if you're unlucky with postponements/midweek games, you could be playing them every 6-7 weeks, more than that if you get them in the cups as well. It will all impact on the gates.
To be fair we will be playing Cork tonight for the 6th time this season..4th time in 4 weeks and we should get at least 3k plus at it.
It depends on the type and quality of the competition we play each other in and how much it means to both clubs.
You forgot to add Paul Osam to that doubtful list. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
St Pats V Galway game is off due to water logged pitch.
Great news for Cobh,
St Pats might have the injury list reduced by time of the replay:cool:
And we'll have Jay O'Shea back from international duty:DQuote:
Originally Posted by The Rebel Ram
Its relly heating up now. Galway won and Harps lost tonite!
I have to say Harps looked shockingly bad tonight.
I'm surprised that Drogheda got a point in Cork and that's bad news for Harps who travel there next week.
Huge game tonight in Cobh, I guess a draw is the best result for United.
We're playing Pat's on Monday now but they've also got a game tonight. I believe we could win it but would take a point as Pat's are still a very good team.
Very hard to see us staying up to be honest, we're just not really good enough and have a shockingly incompetent manager. I think we need 7 points from the last 3 games but it looks very unlikely indeed. On current form Galway will beat us off the park.
Harps were brutally bad last night. I think a lot of commentators were underestimating Rovers, though. As mentioned by Stephen Alkin in commentary, we actually haven't lost to one of the bottom 4 this season, and were never going to roll over. Harps need to buck their ideas up, and fast.
2/1 last night on Rovers to win. Easy money. Don't know where them odds came from. But I won a few quid on it anyway.
Galway to stay up now. I just really hope one of either Harps or Galway stay up. Harp preferably.
Ramblers looking good for fourth from bottom, Galway the biggest threat now. Hopefully Pats can do Cobh a big favour on Monday night by taking all 3 points from Galway.
Will it stay this way though????:(:D
Avg
Team P W D L F A GD Pts Pts
1 Bohemians 30 24 4 2 49 12 37 76 2.5
2 St Patricks Athletic 28 17 6 5 42 21 21 57 2.0
3 Derry City 29 14 9 6 38 20 18 51 1.8
4 Drogheda United 30 12 9 9 34 24 10 45 1.5
5 Cork City* 30 14 10 6 43 25 18 42 1.4
6 Sligo Rovers 30 10 11 9 37 27 10 41 1.4
7 Shamrock Rovers 30 8 12 10 31 30 1 36 1.2
8 Bray Wanderers 30 9 6 15 21 45 -24 33 1.1
9 Cobh Ramblers 30 6 8 16 23 46 -23 26 0.9
10 Finn Harps 30 7 4 19 22 49 -27 25 0.8
11 Galway United 29 5 8 16 29 47 -18 23 0.8
12 UCD 30 4 9 17 19 42 -23 21 0.7
Cobh and Galway seem the form teams at the bottom right now. Harps after a good run are flagging. UCD look doomed.
Very hard to predict all the same. I fancy there will be a twist or two before the end.
UCD gone now IMO, us or galway now i have to say, from the heart its now ours to throw away, the head says us or galway i honestly cannot seperate the two. I say blow the league up now!!! hehe
Between Cobh and Galway now.......
Cobh have
Away to Bray Friday week
Home to Bohs
Away to Derry
9 points a certainty
Seriously though, if we play like we did for the past few weeks we should beat Bray.
It'll depend on what team and what commitment they have when we play Bohs how we get on.
Hopefully Derry will have nothing to play for when we meet them and will have beaten ye to be in the final so will have their focus on that.
so 9 points could actually be a possibility.
Galway will have Pats(away) on Monday who willl want to be making sure of their second spot.
Then it's Derry (away) still in with a shout for second and who will have beaten ye convincingly in the semi.
Home to Harps is next in a win or be relegated battle............
Finally away to UCD who might still be there looking for third from bottom, but pride mainly to play for.
All in all we have it wrapped up
:eek: fact ye're so confident is gonna make it all the sweeter when we finish ahead of ye.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Rebel Ram
reckon anyone of the four can stay up. Its very tight.
We're gone. Have to beat Galway and either of St Pat's or Bohs (Bohs with half our defence suspended) to have any hope. Not going to happen.
I hope the Cobh players are as sure as their supporters !!!! :D
UCD to finish bottom but still stay up as the financial situation of the other 3 clubs will relegate them
I hope you're not a betting man Columbo.Quote:
Originally Posted by jinxy lilywhite
I thought Galway were ok now that they reduced their playing budget?
Galway and the FAI are very close. The FAI won't deduct anything from Galway.Quote:
Originally Posted by jinxy lilywhite
Its between Cobh and Galway and Galway will stay up.
Pats will probably let Galway win tonight plus Pats only played 2 days ago.
Get those excuses in nice and early FunnPirk. :D:ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by finnpark
Ha ha but I am right though ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Olander
What a load of bull.....Quote:
Originally Posted by finnpark
I'm sure if we are found to have broken the rules we will be dealt with accordingly. We realised we weren't going to reach our financial targets and acted responsibly to reduce our spending, unlike some other clubs.
My User name is very apt when I come to putting my money where my mouth is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olander
I could see two staying up at a massive stretch, but not three.Quote:
Originally Posted by jinxy lilywhite
I don't believe the FAI will do anything of consequence to the clubs who are overspending. But as they say about pessimists, most of the time you're right, and the rest of the time, you're pleasantly surprised. :)
It's hard to see how Drogheda can get a licence for next season but leaving that alone I think there is very little between Galway and Cobh's fixtures apart from the fact that we're at home to Harps and they're at home to Bohs.
Our GD is quite a bit better so we'll finish ahead anyone if we finish level on points.
It obviously suits Harps to be written off and I definitely think they could win in Drogheda and if they needed to beat Rovers at home on the last day I'd have no doubt they would but playing like they did on Friday I can't see Galway not beating them in Terryland.
headin meself to the Pats/Galway game tonight, should be a a decent game. As much as i hate to say it i think/hope Galway will stay up.Cobh deserve it too although. But Galway are favourites i think, especially with the fact they have to play Harps still in Terryland.
Still think that Harps have as good a chance as the rest. Its been such an unpredictable league this year that anything can still happen.
If any of you have any money left get it on Galway to stay up and Harps to be relegated. You are buying money with the Harps bit and backing a dead cert with Galway.Quote:
Originally Posted by finnpark
Back to the first division for us :rolleyes: Bad news for derry and the average attendances in the league
great result for us tonight (one nil with vinny scoring his third in two - and we were with out wonder boy Jay O'Shea)
Our run in:
Derry Away
Harps Home
UCD Away
Cobh:
Bray Away
Sligo Home
Derry Away
Harps:
Drogheda Away
Galway Away
Shamrock Rovers Home
It will go down to the wire. I'm just glad that our goal difference is the best of the 3, good chance it will end up going down to that