Unlucky Pat's. Great performance, easily worth two goals. And that was definitely a penalty in the first half.
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Unlucky Pat's. Great performance, easily worth two goals. And that was definitely a penalty in the first half.
Pats were excellent. Confident, purposeful, skillful. Fahey was very impressive. We're getting closer every year.
I expected comments here along the lines of "Pats threw away the greatest chance the League had in years of progressing in Europe", was all ready to defend the team, so I'm a bit relieved I don't have to now... we did sort of do that though. :o
I can't criticise my club, those players, they gave it everything. Very emotional. Gutted we won't have another European season with Keith Fahey in our side. I can't see him staying now. He's just a class above.
If Kelleher has the money that club can go anywhere. Keep Fahy and buy 3 or 4 class acts and go for it every season for a few seasons. If Fahy goes Pats should 4M or 5MQuote:
Originally Posted by saintmaniac
Yea well,if Fahey moves he should avoid Britian,they dont have much room for a player like him.Quote:
Originally Posted by saintmaniac
I think he will keep his money for now,the recession and all that.Quote:
Originally Posted by finnpark
I saw, you made some forceful points in the Fahey thread. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Bohemian1890
I hope he avoids Britain as well obviously, but I think he'd want to go there, probably feels he has a point to prove after his time at Arsenal and Villa. He's a far better player now than he was when he first signed for Pats, that's for sure.
People forget that Dempsey was playing in the SPL until recently as well - O'Cearuill can't get into our team but was capped by Staunton. We're not a million miles away from making the breakthrough. But I'd like to see an Irish club not only get to the group stages, but to be competitive in those games. We've had a few teams be competitive in the first round - now to the next level. When I started going to games as a kid in the mid 90s, winning the first qualifying round in Europe was a freak result, and that wasn't too long ago. It's a far greater gap this time, but what's the point in being negative? Believe. :)
Thought we played well. Fahey wasn't at his best tonight and still looked class against a midfield full of internationals. Dempsey was brilliant for Pats too
Bit unlucky on the night but there you go. Hopefully next year we can push on
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Originally Posted by SkStu
That was it exactly. Can't remember if it was Gabriel that was presenting it but he said something along the lines of 'ack its alright'. As if to say its only you Eoin. Don't worry about it. :D
Harmless stuff but very very funny. Eoin Hand is a legend. I think he was still a bit rattled and heated from the confrontation with Eamon Collins.
Well done St Pats. By all accounts they rattled Hertha whom I believe were shaking their heads in disbelief at half time.
Eoin Hand called who bullsh*ters??? Is this online anywhere? I have to say Hand always has it right. When theres something wrong in the league he always spits it out and he doesn't fap about on issues either, he tells ya how it is, so i'd love to hear what he said.
Bad luck st Pats.Def deserved a bit more but have given so us all some rewarding moments this season.
We live in hope Gentlemen, we live in hope.
Delighted I was able to go to that. Sickened that Pat's didn't get the win they deserved. I thought Dempsey and Lynch were the outstanding players for Pat's, Fahey disappointed me a little, I thought his passing was a little off, especially in the first half, that's not to say he wasn't very good, just that I've seen him play better.
Lynch was my man of the match despite fluffing a great chance and getting sent off. Thought the crowd was fantastic, even down in block H where I was, well away from the main singing crowd, we were joining in with the chants and getting behind the team. Almost pulled my hair out when Pat's hit the post for the second time. Spotted a Bray jersey and a Derry City (or might have been Sligo) in my section. Great night for the league I thought, just a pity they couldn't get that goal. I'd say over 6,000 there.
I'm not sure any of us could handle so much excitement and tension in one night. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by passinginterest
Tommy Smith, the pain in the ass commentator on ESPN, was doing the Man United Champions League today, and actually said, ' i just wanna take a minute and say what a fantastic result St Patrick's Atheltic had tonight against a great Hetha Berlin team' and mentioned something about showing some people up who diregard the League of Ireland
Clueless in Pigsboro.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by LukeO
Pat's were easily the better team but didn't take their chances. Fahey was running the show.FYP :oQuote:
Originally Posted by soccerc
I take it you don't know your way around Dublin too well then? If you meant Phibsborough - where the Home Of Irish Football is located, maybe you could do with some English reading lessons::pQuote:
Location: Glasnevin, Dublin 11
Know the way around my city extremely well, but I think you fail at reading, margarine kid :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gypsy1890
I thought McDonnell did bottle it a bit and took the draw after an hour. Pat's were crying out for a double substitution with half an hour to go (Murphy for Fitzpatrick, O'Brien for Guy with Kirby going wide right) but he waited until the tie was irretrievable before making a move.
Quigley needs a slap too, if he didn't spend so much time trying to be a playmaker in a team that already has one Pat's would be much healthier.
Very good performance, all in all. Hertha Berlin (Cicero apart) are not a better team than St. Patrick's Athletic, it's as simple as that.
If anyone can't watch the match than look to the following link for the RTE analyse and match highlights:
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/mns/2...hertha_av.html
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Originally Posted by SkStu
I was listening to this on the way home from training, it was great entertainment, very funny but also quite true. they brought the debate round to why Leinster can pack out the rds every other week but LOI games are still getting bad crowds. The host asked Eoin Hand and Jim mcLaughlin for their ideas. Neither could give an exact answer but Hand said how we need to get the right people sitting down and coming up with ideas but also that "... we need to get rid of the bull****ters" and then as SkStu says, he sort of apologised but the host told him not to worry about it!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
I've listened to most of the radio 1 coverage of the LOI teams in europe this season (due to a half hour drive after training :mad:) and it has been great. All of the guests and presenters are LOI to the bone. Fair play to Pats btw, would have done it on a different night
Pats were unlucky and gave a really solid performance. Enjoyed the game
Interesting to see a Hertha player (Stein?) come out striaght after the game
to meet the away fans and get this photo taken with them etc. Nice touch.
Saw 4,750 atttendence figure in the paper this morning
Neither of them are fit. Or anywhere near fit to be honest. 10 minutes is about the max we could ask from themQuote:
Originally Posted by Sheridan
So what was the attendance for the game? Didn't seem great anyway.
Very depressing that no matter what money is spent we don't see decent crowds at matches such as this.
Being reported as about 5,000. I was expecting about 3,000. Didn't help that TV cameras were on the side of the main support. Check out the pic on www.stpatsfc.com from the game. If you saw that you'd think there was a massive crowdQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
Well its not really "we" is it? Irish people simply don't care about football enough to go to a game. Even if we had played it at 7.45 you're only looking at about 1,000 extra nuetrals. Their loss, as it was a cracking game.Quote:
Very depressing that no matter what money is spent we don't see decent crowds at matches such as this.
Three factors: game at 5.30. Live on TV. Pat's 2-0 defecit from first leg. Without these factors there could have been a lot more there - maybe 3 to 4 thousand? (Possibly another factor? - Irish football 'supporters' are the worst in the world).
If they can play 15, they can play 25. If they can only play ten they shouldn't be training, on the bench or probably up out of bed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Anyway, O'Cearuill for Fitzgerald and Harris up front would have been just as effective. Don't know why Kirby was taken off instead of Guy. The phrase "if he had a brain he'd be dangerous" could have been invented for Ryan Guy.
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Originally Posted by Sheridan
Bit harsh. He won loads of ball in the air and got in a few decent crosses.
Very entertaining game, if Pats had one of those good chances go in, they could easily have got a second. Berlin's defence (and keeper in particular) looked a bit shaky. I didn't see the penalty incident, was in the opposite corner, any clips online?
As I said, he'd be a very good player if he had any intelligence, but he suffers from more rushes of blood than any player I've ever seen.
I was on the train this morning, and listening to the others in the sardine can. A couple of males in their early thirties were chewing the fat & it the sports conversation was all a case of "did you catch the Celtic match?". Says it allQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
I just remembered the three middle aged English gentlemen sitting behind me. They were very impressed with Pat's performance. Also commented on the excellent atmosphere and joked about getting season tickets if it was always like this. They mentioned a few times that Pat's didn't play like an English side, the way they tried to play from the back. Again have to say it was a great game to be at, still can't believe Pat's didn't manage to score.
I got a few very confused looks on the way home, I had my Youths jersey on my woolly hat with Shamrock Rovers and Youths pin badges and a half Pat's half Hertha scarf!
tx for that:)Quote:
Originally Posted by robertob
Glad i went to the match last night.Pats were very unlucky not to come away with anything.
But sure we knew that before the tie began.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheridan
Pats did what all Irish teams do, saw the words "Hertha Berlin" and "Bundesliga", and thought "no chance". They played the first leg accordingly, with fear and a reluctance to go forward, even when losing, and lost too much ground to make up at home.
What they should have done was, researched their form, realised that they are a mid-table outfit, saw that they had a dodo upfront in Voronin, and that they were vulnerable at the back, when under pressure. Then they could exploit those weaknesses, and get a result. Hertha showed in the RDS game, that just because they're in the Bundesliga doesn't make them world beaters.
Pats are by no means the only Irish club to approach a European tie, with the perception that their opponents are class. We are 30th in the rankings now. We need to go into these games with a positive outlook, in order to reach the next level. Ask Anorthosis Famagusta.
You are an absolute genius....pity Pats didnt give you a call and ask for your superb advice before going to Berlin. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
well there was defenitely 2 Sligo Rovers jerseys there anyway ;), saw Derry, Limerick, Bohs, Shels and a few other LOI jerseys too.Quote:
Originally Posted by passinginterest
enjoyed the game, thought Pats were very unlucky, although there were a few occasions when the physical strength of the Hertha players overpowered some Pats players.
BTW do Pats not have a better option than Rodgers at left back?:eek:
You'd think so. I happen to think Rodgers and his alternative Des Byrne are two of the worst players in the league, don't know how Pat's ended up with both of them!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rovers1
In fairness to Rodgers I thought he had a steady game, definitely the best I've seen him play.
Dessie Byrne, Dave Partridge or Stephen Paisley can play there. They were all injured!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rovers1
Forgot about Partridge and Paisley. Paisley always looks fairly solid, Partridge looks decent too, think he's more of a centre half.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint_Charlie
thought so....Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint_Charlie
was Gary O Neil injured too?