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not a bad looking side
Seems to be playing the same tactics as the senior team, 2 defensive midfielders with wingers supplying the strikers. I'd say Andrews is playing the Steven Reid role, and Potter the Glen Whelan. I'd still have my doubts about Keogh on the right thoughCode:Joe Murphy
Kevin Foley Darren O'Dea Alex Bruce(c) Stephen Ward
Andy Keogh Darren Potter Keith Andrews Wes Hoolahan
Caleb Folan Shane Long
Yep - looks like the same formation the seniors play with. Two wingers + two defensive midfielders.
I'm not convinced that Keogh playing wide is a good idea either, though Trap obviously likes him. Foley gets forward well though.
I thought Hoolahan was playing more centrally at club level these days, no?
Ward seems to have reinvented himself as a left back these days.
Not sure where Wes has been lining out for Norwich, but Roeder isn't happy with his work ethic lately.
Ward seems to have gone the Ashley Cole route of positioning, started out up front, then in midfield and finally at left full. The more options the better, IMO
Oh dear is this what we have come to? How St Ledger is not in the squad is beyond me!Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
McShane, Bruce, O'Dear seem to keep getting picked irrespective of if they are playing well or in their clubs 1st team.......
Poor selection policy if you ask me.
McShane is playing in the first team at in form Hull and playing OK by all accounts. (Still not convinced of him at right full)
looking forward to readin/hearing about how Ward and Foley get on.. Disapointed at most of the midfield selection. Wouldn't have picked Houlahan on the left meself but given the strength in depth we have there in the senior squad I'm not too pushed. Not happy at seeing Potter and Keogh start (though I doubt Keogh would have started has Lawrence been fit)
I can't make the game.
How much are tickets for this and can you pay on the gate?
Did anyone see any betting on this game anywhere?
is this on tv?
Potter and Andrews?????? is that the best we can come up with for midfield cover? Something is going wrong with squad selection and development when we have Miller and Whelan likely to start against Cyprus and these two bench warmers lined up as potential cover. McCann, O'Toole, Garvan, Stephen Quinn even McPhail would surely offer something more. Not to mention the fact that we have relegated Andy Reid to the role of non-playing squad mascot, and dont seem able / willing to make a serious effort to resolve the Stephen Ireland "situation".
The sad thing is it will take a beating from Italy or Bulgaria or God-forbid Cyprus before we wake up to the fact that our best and most promising midfield players aren't even in the squad. How is this happening? By what extraordinary form of distorted perception can Trap, Tardelli, Brady and their mentor Givens come to the judgement that Miller, Andrews, Potter, Whelan(and while we are on the subject Bruce!!!) are international footballers.
I don't think so. I think they are only on sale during the day from Dalyer or ticketmaster.Quote:
Originally Posted by holidaysong
According to today's Independent - http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...e-1493084.html - Gibson will replace Potter at half time, Stokes will come on for Long, Keogh and Hoolahan will be replaced by Treacy and Scannell, and only Foley will complete the 90 minutes in defence.
Does that mean Scannell will be playing on the right wing? I thought he was an out and out striker?
I'd be amazed if you can't get a ticket at the stiles, that's what I'll be doing anyway. Well that or going home disappointed!Quote:
Originally Posted by DeNiro
More of a support striker or wide man in a 4-3-3.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Any chance this game is being streamed on the FAI or RTE websites?
I'm about to leave work and head straight for Dalymount, is there any kind of a meet up before hand?
Is this on the radio or anything like that?
Cant find it anywhere:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Raheny Red
Still no score according to aertel
Probably still nil nil then :)
1 nil, Folan after 24 mins
2 nil Andy Keogh 62 mins
About 3700 people there.Seen a grown man (Irish) in a forest jersey talk about supporting your country(Ok maybe not as 8 players in the squad are English),few Irish kids in forest gear aswell.:o:D:eek:
How did we play?
Did anyone stand out?
Convinced they gave the attendance as 4,000 and something. Think it was 4040, or 4004, couldn't hear properly. Could have been 4014.
The team as an organised unit stood out. The defence stayed together and didn't allow a lot of space. The central midfield tackled hard and sprayed the ball out to the wings, and the strikers tried to score. Simple, yet brilliant.
Ward was in front of me in the first half, and he was solid. Won back possession, and passed it either across the back 4, or to Wes Hoolahan in front of him.
Hoolahan didn't do a lot I thought, lost possession frequently. He wasn't able to cope with the physical side of Forest's game.
For all the criticism of Alex Bruce, he justified his selection with some telling clearances.
Andrews impressed me the most in midfield, hard tackling, closing down, simple passes. Pretty much what you want from a defensive central midfielder.
Keogh played better than I expected on the right wing, and took his goal well from a low cross at the near post from Long.
Folan had one chance and scored, Stokes had a chance about 5 minutes earlier from the exact same spot, and hit the keeper. Stokes seemed to be doing too much, trying to beat 2 or 3 players before shooting, when the simple shot was on much earlier.
Westwood made a magnificant save with about 10 minutes to go to keep a clean sheet, but the game was as good as over at that point.
Scannell was tightly marked when he came on, seemed to be 2 players on him as soon as he got the ball. Did a backheel which nutmegged the player marking him, which made everyone around me applaud. When he was warming up, some of the lads around me were chanting "Scannell, Scannell, give us a wave", so he did. If nothing else, it endeared him to the crowd.
Match report from Nottingham
http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/sp...l/article.html
I missed the first 20 minutes but the team wasn't the one announced. Stokes started up front instead of Long and Gibson started, not Potter. Gibson didn't do much in midfield. Andrews seemed to have most of the ball.
We played with 10 men for the last 15 minutes or so. I didn't see who went off but there was no replacement. I think I saw Foley with the armband so I guess it was Bruce that went off. If so we had no actual centre half on the pitch because we went 3-5-1 when Garvan came on. I think Treacy covered at left back with Long dropping to left midfield.
Anyway, it's a pity I didn't realise Gibson was on the pitch until the 2nd half because he'd be a player I'd want to watch closely. I just presumed it was Potter.
Long was excellent I thought. He played very like Doyle and for such a small guy he was winning plenty in the air.
Yeah, it was Bruce that went off with no substitute coming on
Bruce went off alright, they called from the bench and told him to come off. He didnt look injured, probably had some sort of knock and they were saving him.
Not much of a game really, very little atmosphere, some players did well, Gibson i thought was purposeful in the first half and Long played well when he came on. Folan took his goal well. Nottingham Forest didnt bother their ****** though.
I think the fact that so many of our players were average or not at their best and still won comfortably says it all. Also, our defence for the last 15 minutes consisted of 2 right backs and a left winger. Forest were rubbish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ceirtlis
Good report Tets, you have the knack of just telling us what we need to know:)
I was just thinking, where is youngirish these days?
Thanks, I've read enough match reports that left out what I wanted to know, so I just try to put everything I cna think of into a report that I'm going to write!Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
I thought gibson did well. He had moved well down the pecking roder i nth epast 12 months but looked good last night.
Keogh had a good game. foley was good going forward. Folan ahs to be an option now for the senior side. He would unsettle defences. more mobile than I expected.
Hard to judge the defence.
I though Ward and Foley were solid, Foley giving more going forward. Bruce and O'Dea were OK, I though Bruce's distribution was awful at times. Hoolahan was very disappointing, never got to grips with the game, we really lacked width. Kehoe took his goal well and was lively. Gibson and Andrews were easily on top without being spectacular, Andrews the more impressive. Folan took his goal very well and Stokes looked our most dangerous player, only problem was he missed a great chance and took too much out of the ball at times. Long looked lively when he came on and the left wing looked more dangerous when Treacy was there. Rowlands looked solid, Scannell looked quick and potentially very dangerous. Westwood made one good save. Was a pity Garvan didn't get more time and he ended up on the left where he was a bit lost, tried to pick out a few excellent passes.
Yeah a hard game to assess really. Folan is an option as he is big strong and pacy and took his goal well so he is certainly and option and I would no problem if Trap brings him into the squad having assessed him in training.
Andrews did we in midfield in that he got his tackles in and kept it simple and a lot bigger in the flesh than I thought he was. There was no central midfielder all night that had a stamp of class and Garvan was wasted on the wing when he came on and then on the left of a 3 also. He does have an awkward run about him but it was a pity as any time I have seen him at under-age I have been impressed with him.
Ward has bulked up something serious since leaving Bohs and he was solid as was Foley at right back.
Keogh was probably man of the match though for being a constant threat to Forest and for taking his goal well. Forest were rubbish.
I'd agree with Keogh man of the match but he had acres of space to play in. Hoolahan had just as much space but didn't make the same impact. As you said, Forest were terrible.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
Any video of this game at all?
There was a camera in front of me for about 15-20 minutes of the second half, before he moved on to another part of the ground. Might be something on MNS?
Report from RTE: http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2008/...tv_tod_av.html
Stokes' miss doesn't look as bad as I thought. From where I was sitting, he looked a lot closer to the net