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United Park has about 25 parking spaces for a 6,000 capacity stadium. 300 for a 10,000 capacity would hardly be worse than currently.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMorgan
There are actually going to be 1,800 parking spaces there, for the leisure centre, shops etc.
How many parking spaces did Punchestown allot for Oxygen (or the racing festival). If you want to go to a big game or concert then get the bus. Otherwise tough.
However you seem to know all so we will bow to your superior knowledge.
Yes but how many car Park spaces are set aside for the stadium, not near that. Also it beside a motorway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Celdrog
I do say this with empathy for the Drogheda plight but they really have nobody to blame but themselves. If I where a drogheda official I would sue the ass of the engineer and architects involved. Somebody should of known what the full SP was with the NRA and parking allocations. Procedures are procedures
All thats in the planning application is 300 on match nights. The leisure centre / shops are at the stadium.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rovers Maniac
The land is beside a motorway, its also walkable from the southside of the town. With the road connecting Colpe to the Motorway its walkable from the Grange Rath area.
The NRAs objection centres on the amount of traffic increase the M1 will receive. Its barely used from Julinatown to Waterunder with the exhorbitant toll so it has pleny of capacity.
I actually thought it was clever providing shuttle buses on matchnight, complimentary ones at that, especially as there will be bars in the ground. However our Oriel Park cousins seem to think we will get 5000 every week all travelling by car:confused:
Has anyone got a link to the NRA's parking space objection as I haven't seen it.
Rumours in Drogland it will be sorted in the next two/three months and will still go ahead
Is this the on-ramp for Drogheda South which is actually in Dublin? That's walkable from Drogheda in the sense that there's no fire or ocean in between, but in practical terms, no-one's going to walk it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Celdrog
As I was correctly corrected, if you build a 10000-seater stadium, you have to have plans for it to cater for 10000.Quote:
However our Oriel Park cousins seem to think we will get 5000 every week all travelling by car:confused:
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Originally Posted by pineapple stu
You are thinking of the wrong ramp.
Fair enough.
Could someone who knows the area give us a link to a map showing where the stadium is to be built?
Everything in hereQuote:
Originally Posted by Student Mullet
"National Roads Authority Objects as is concerned that the development will compromise the performance of the M1 and future national roads projects. The application as submitted indicates the current junction with the M1 will be unable to support the traffic generated by the development and will require upgrade. As this junction is subject to a PPP contract arrangement this will be complex, difficult and expensive to achieve."
No mention of parking. Just the M1 and future development
Totally agree. I'm just wondering how Punchestown gets away with Oxygen. I live near Naas and its a nightmare for traffic. Bus only to the venue. They don't need to provide too much extra for normal race meetingsQuote:
Originally Posted by Pineapple Stu
Great pic (amazing what they can do nowdays :) ).
So it has nothing to do with carpark spaces etc, in fact the stadium is fine, the issue is te roundabout which the proposed link road connects onto, the NRA beleive that its inadequate to cope with potential vols and would require upgrading in the future and this is quite a complicated process (according to the Drogheda leader) - I do have to admit that if 10000 people we coming down that road onto that roundabout I would see a jam - I wouldn't be surprised if a compromise was agreed with the NRA with a committement that a traffic management plan must be in place for all games with an attendence above a certain level - this often happens with new shopping centres, Scotch hall in Drogland had to have a traffic management plan as the roads couldn't cope with extra vols and were too central to widen etc (basically the plan was more traffic lights :eek: ) c'est la vie.
Interesting to see how this pans out.
Seen that before but just realised now that the roundabout is actually under the M1. If that is correct the on & off ramps look much longer than normal. There could be a filter lane constructed easily enough at the roundabout or else widen it. The NRA have allowed tailbacks at every M50 off ramp for years without much comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Celdrog
the ramp is massive, stretches for ages on the M!, there would be no jams on the M1, rather it would th roundabout. I am sure something can be sorted - just will be interesting to see what.
There's been significant comment on that matter. The NRA is spending several hundred million euro upgrading the junctions on the road and is reducing the speed limit to 60mph.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
Some days they even work for a full 4 hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Student Mullet
They are removing the traffic lights and roundabouts and replacing them with flyovers like the rest of thr world when they built motorways but the NRA knew better. They also now are allowing motorway service stations having insisted before they weren't necessary when the roads were being built.
Given that these guys have screwed up the building of roads how can they know anything about parking/planning for a football stadium.
I believe the roundabout would come under the remit of the NRA? From glancing through the planning details previously I saw the local authority insisted that the entrance to the stadium be set further away from the roundabout to ease congestion.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanDrog
So when does this decision get made then, another year way or sooner!?
Any more news about the ground/development? or has it just disappeared into the black hole that is An Bord Pleanála.
http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/229962.htm
Decision not until mid november.
I really hope I am wrong but I couldnt see the NRA being overruled on an issue relating to roads. I was hoping that at this point we would have seen some arrnagment being amde with the NRA - an agreed traffic management plan of some decription for match days and in return they would remove their objection.
there is still an awful amount of time left.
I have been through this process before in building a house and An bord pleanala are a shower of *ucks.
The can uphold the NRA objection (this means no grounds for appeal), they can decline them (no appeal then for the NRA, or make a recommendation which must be obeyed.
I don't think the NRA can remove their objection once they lodged it.
Less than 3 months away still loads of time to come up with a plan. Probably if Drogheda go to the NRa to look for a resolution and the NRA don't bite An bord pleanala may look on it favourable for drogheda.
I honestly don't know what way this will fall for you