Well I heard on the radio, as recently as Friday, that we Irish don't complain enough.
If you're unhappy let the North Wales Police know about it.
northwalespolice@north-wales.police.uk
Well I heard on the radio, as recently as Friday, that we Irish don't complain enough.
If you're unhappy let the North Wales Police know about it.
northwalespolice@north-wales.police.uk
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Originally Posted by historynut
Nothing to offer and apology for. Not the fault of Rhyl FC and their supporters. No need to be embrassed either mate.
I don't like Welshmen, they're all *****
Don't worry we were all sh1t faced, the Rhyl fans were very friendly. Everyone was nice to us except the cops (and they weren't even that bad, they were just there in insane numbers) and one Scouse bouncer who thought he was very clever telling me that Liverpool would beat Bohs.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
After all the Ballyhoo about the police it was interesting that no one cared to mention that there was a few Irish Fans arrested on Saturday for incidents in Rhyl.
:eek: :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by gufct
Drunk and disorderly or more serious?
from the daily post newsQuote:
Originally Posted by jebus
16 arrested as fans clash before Rhyl game
Jun 30 2008 by Owen R Hughes, Daily Post
A BRAWL between forty yobs ended with 16 arrests by police in riot gear in Rhyl on Saturday.
Around 20 people believed to be from the Wrexham area were involved in the fight, before the 2.30pm kick-off at Rhyl FC’s European Intertoto Cup second leg match against Dubliners the Bohemians.
It is thought they may have travelled to the seaside resort for a pre-arranged battle with Irish visitors, but none were thought to be connected with Rhyl FC.
Police in riot gear made 16 arrests after they swooped in to quell the problems in and around the Queens Shopping Centre and on the High Street.
The meet-up between around 40 rivals stunned shoppers on the busy trading street.
Before the match police had advised a lockdown of pubs and off-licences after the game, following intelligence about potential troubles surrounding the fixture, which was won 4-2 by Bohemians, 9-3 on aggregate.
Police staged a major security operation at the game with officers in full riot gear on patrol to separate fans.
Richard Henderson, White Rose Centre shopping manager, said: “A gang ran riot in the Queen’s Centre before it spilled onto the street outside McDonalds.
“They were gravitating toward the White Rose Centre but the police stopped them in their tracks. Emotions were running high but the police handled the situation very well and were right on top of it.
“There were masses of officers here and a load of people were bundled into police vans and taken away.”
North Wales Police said 16 arrests were made before the match for various public order offences in Rhyl town centre.
It is not thought anyone was injured
Superb, well there goes Bohs argument that the cops were being too hard on them
I've seen this article posted a few times. It clearly states that those involved in the violence were a group from Wrexham. I know this article suggests some Irish may have been involved. However I think it's been clarified on the Bohs board that not one Irish person was arrested.
* Apparently six were Irish sorry. No trouble near the ground and it was a group that travelled without tickets. See thread on Bohs board.
Who were the Wrexham scum fighting though? They hardly started brawling amongst themselves after travelling the distance?Quote:
Originally Posted by passinginterest
Ya sorry clarified it there a bit. Don't think Bohs can do much about a bunch of idiots hopping on the ferry an going looking for a brawl. It's sad, and if it happened at the game Bohs would have to take some of the blame, it's hard to blame them in this case though.Quote:
Originally Posted by jebus
I know they are not the best source but here is the story from 11aside http://www.eleven-a-side.com/intoeur...ws.asp?n=32965 .
I wouldn't blame the club for the behaviour of some of their idiots at all, but I still think it discounts a lot of the outrage at the Welsh police's pre-emptive tactics in trying to curb incidents like thisQuote:
Originally Posted by passinginterest
True enough. I suppose if they heard whispers of a group travelling from Wrexham specifically looking for trouble and the possibility of some scum travelling with Bohs they couldn't afford to take any chances.Quote:
Originally Posted by jebus
It also casts a shadow on some of the assertions above that seek to minimize Bohs hooligan problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by jebus
Presumably, assuming the guards know who they are, these people couldn't have been denied permission to leave the country due to the Common Travel Area between Ireland and UK?
I've said it before but I think Bohs would get a lot more sympathy if they acknowledged the problem, said they had taken all the steps they could to ban the people from Dalymount and inform other clubs of the identity of those who are banned (see previous thread on the lad who sought the judicial review).
Arranging to meet up with hoolies from another club because you can't find anyone from the club you're playing to fight with isn't reflective of a small problem IMHO.
OneRedArmy ffs they travelled WITHOUT tickets - in other words the club did not sell them tickets. You say Bohs wont acknowledge its problem - the club and fans are on record acknowledging the problem and outlining the efforts to eradicate it. How can you ignore that?Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
The club has sent security officials on away trips to weed out the troublemakers trying to get in to away grounds. Do some research and you will find all these things documented. It appears the club refused to sell known troublemakers tickets for the game and passed the info on to the police. What more can be done in all fairness??? These idiots still hopped on a ferry looking for trouble... pathetic i know but hardly fair to tar us all with the same brush as seems to be the underlying tone, inference and intent of the louder posters on this messageboard.
The fans admit there is a problem, a small one in terms of numbers. Apart from vigilantism (which i personally would be all for if it wasnt for the fact that it would just be used as another stick with which to beat the league) what can the fans do?
Fair enough but it's hard to condemn the Welsh police like was done earlier in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Whether you want to acknowledge these idiots or not as Bohs fans is beside the point. They have alligned themselves with your club. Wherever your club goes, these people follow and cause trouble and so wherever your club goes you are going to meet with this sort of problem. All the PC speak in the world isn't going to change this.
Had the police left the pubs open, this could have been much worse because of the type of people who have latched onto Bohs. That's the reality so they made the right choice.
Did you not read the thread?Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
here's a link to post 38, which I think answers your question
http://foot.ie/showpost.php?p=970917&postcount=38
I read the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by CuanaD
I read the Bohs fans accusing the police about being heavy handed and generally minimising their hoolie problem.
But your point was:Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
Is that not exactly what Bohs are saying here:Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
http://www.bohemians.ie/index.php/cl...ligan-bans.htm
I'm not a Bohs fan & not trying to get into an argument with you, I'm just saying that I think the Bohs statement does at least what you called for and they should be commended for that.