Heard Bertstrom on the radio earlier today and he said when he steps down he
can look forward to attending more games instead of just having to settle for
watching the highlights on telly.
Don't think he was referring to LoI/eL and MNS!
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Heard Bertstrom on the radio earlier today and he said when he steps down he
can look forward to attending more games instead of just having to settle for
watching the highlights on telly.
Don't think he was referring to LoI/eL and MNS!
The disproportionate amount of money shovelled at dog and horse racing was examined here: http://stigonline.com/misc/si_funding.htmQuote:
Originally Posted by Bluebeard
bertie's a gimp and now he'll soon be gone
if soccer got more money under him than previously it's only cos we were up to our tits in cash while he happened to be in the hot seat - he's a lucky pr!ck but nothing more really than a parish pump politician.
The Government should be encouraging sport at every level cos what you pay out in grants for sports facilities (grass roots to top end) you get back ten fold in a healthy population and less chance of young lads hanging round streets with nothing to do but stab hard working immigratns in the head with a screwdriver
Soccer in this country has more registered members than any other sport and would therefore be in line for a decent payout if things were done properly. Totally agree that tax breaks to the horsey fraternity is unbelievable. Money is like gravity though and attracts more money and seeing as though soccer seems to be a poor man's game in this country then you can see why we get no money. Don't agree with Govt funding ELoI clubs directly - more youth structures which the FAI and the clubs should channel towards the clubs.
Britain's Rob Hayles and some dutch guy were banned from last week's world championships because of blood test irregularities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
but delivered on the far better and more realistic lansdowne road. cant fault the man for having the ambition of an 80k national stadium that abbotstown would have been.Quote:
Originally Posted by finnpark
eircom park would never have happened. the projected costs alone was about 50% what it would have ended up being and it was in an awful location
I am not condoning or defending it, but isn't there a different between football which is a sport and the 'bloodstock industry' which is more of a business which generates jobs etc. Horse racing itself is the sports end of the bloodstock industry. I may be wrong, but I don't think that jockeys and trainers have any different taxation status on their winnings than any other professional Irish sportsman, like say Padraig Harrington.Quote:
Originally Posted by all drogged up
A two week ban until he's retested. Hayles didn't fail a drugs test.Quote:
Originally Posted by Superhoops
I was asking him to do it, trying to prove a point about lazy generalismsQuote:
Originally Posted by Superhoops
No sport with a proper testing regime is 100% clean
Very good article, inspire me to use the link at the bottom and gawk at previous budgets. I zoned in on 2001 which I would put as being the centre of the "Celtic tiger boom" - pre-foot & mouth, and after four years of Fianna Fail "stability". It also comes the year before the Olympics, and World Cup.Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
The "Budget Newspaper" on the site suggests almost £118m being given to sport (roughly €150.8m).
Of this £2.5m (€3.2m) to given to GAA, FAI, IRFU between them.
£745,000 (€952,000) to be given to special club capital development projects incl Tolka Rovers, GAA in Dungarvan, Young Munster, and four other multi-sport venues including Phoenix Park.
£65.37m (€83.55m) to Sports Campus Ireland (AKA The Bertie Bowl)
Cannot find stats on horses or dogs at the mo, but look there at the money spent on Sports Campus Ireland. According to the DAST, over €119m will need to be spent on the first phase of the project in Abbotstown which was only given the go ahead for in Nov 2005, with a 5-7 year delivery schedule.
Perhaps I am a suspicious type, but there seems to be a lot of unconnected threads hanging off the end of Fianna Fail's Sports Shorts as regards this.
That's more than a little sus alright. Bluebeard: foot.ie's answer to Elliott NessQuote:
Originally Posted by Bluebeard
As far as I know, Enda Kenny isn't taking over as Taoiseach. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shedender81
Bertie's "backing" of sport is probably playing to the general public as he does so well, celebrity and sports stars th eopium of the masses. Pity he didn't concentrate on the desperate health, transport and eduction systems. Good riddance to the great spoofer.
As for media coverage...it's ALL soccer, mostly premiership, Eircom League get F' All coverage, but if you think the GAA gets too much media coverage, that would be so wrong and would simply display anti-GAA bias on your part. The Herald rag do about 14 pages on local soccer on a Wednesdays but never ANY coverage of local GAA.
People who have no pride in or tolerance for our national games should consider a move.
Self appointed national games. For feck sake, one of them was made up on a whim to give people something else to do with a soccer ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scram
Are there any examples of a soccer club applying to the sports council for grants, doing all the paperwork and satisfying the back up funding criteria, being rejected in favour of eg the local rowing club.
Great post, written in simple layman terms, but yet very very powerful and descriptive. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by all drogged up
i am not sure what you are asking here, geysir, but i know at home the local soccer club were looking for a grant for a new clubhouse in or around near É100k a few years ago, they got it, but the gaa club got fcek all that same year, about 26K I think and no harm either :DQuote:
Originally Posted by geysir
It is a simple question. Looks to me that the Sports Capital Grants are transparent that they fund participation sports, that the grants are controlled by the the Irish Sports Council.
That the strategy of supporting clubs who are already taking a proper structured initiative is a good one.
So why should the taxpayer have to give them money?Quote:
Originally Posted by livehead1
If they attract 80000 to stadiums and "millions" on TV then why on earth do they need to be paid by the taxpayer? They are only "special" in that they want to retain some extremely dubious amateur ethos while at the same time parading around with sponsors logos on their shirts , selling a large portion of their main ground to corporate clients , breaking the actual tax laws by paying managers and at club level players and selling tv rights to highest bidder. Doesnt sound very amateur to me?
So can you please explain why the taxpayer should pay for these people to partake in a sport that they whore off for as much cash as possible as it is?
Lansdowne has also run over cost. Citywest no worse a location than lansdowne or croke park. not everyone in Ireland lives in dublin or D4.It has 3 lanes for traffic running either way from it and a LUAS line. If we had of run with it we would have had a stadium by now.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
I still don't understand why only locations an obscene or impossible walk from the city centre were considered. Just by looking at google earth its obvious there was enough room to build it beside Ringsend Athletics Stadium or at the edge of Phoenix Park. It could have been bigger as well. 50,000 isn't enough for soccer and well short of what Rugby needs. Also means no hope of holding a Champions league final in Dublin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billsthoughts
Good post. It should also be pointed out that RTE are sponsoring the GAA after already paying for the TV rights. The best argument is that if 80k attending games why do they need the state to pay their players? Do female GAA footballer & camogie players get paid?Quote:
Originally Posted by Billsthoughts