Drimnagh Stabbings

What about Death Row Dodge? ;)

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Originally Posted by superfrank

One thing I want to know is was this attack racially motivated or otherwise?

A lot of the media attention focuses on the fact that the two dead were Polish.

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Doubt it was racially motivated but it looks as if there was some element of racism in the attack. Would it have been so savage if they were Irish lads? I doubt it. It will be interesting to hear what was said during the attack in any court case that arises.

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Originally Posted by rebs23

Doubt it was racially motivated but it looks as if there was some element of racism in the attack. Would it have been so savage if they were Irish lads? I doubt it. It will be interesting to hear what was said during the attack in any court case that arises.

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I disagree with that to be honest. I don't think (from what I've read) that there was any racial motivation in this attack, it really just looks like scumbags being scumbags. Could be wrong obviously, but I really hope the media doesn't focus on the fact that the two deceased aren't from Ireland unless they have proof it was racially motivated

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Originally Posted by jebus

I disagree with that to be honest. I don't think (from what I've read) that there was any racial motivation in this attack, it really just looks like scumbags being scumbags. Could be wrong obviously, but I really hope the media doesn't focus on the fact that the two deceased aren't from Ireland unless they have proof it was racially motivated

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Would agree with this. No doubt a few racist taunts thrown during the attack, but they weren't attacked for being polish.

I think the question is that if the 2 people who refused to buy booze had been Irish lads, would they have been attacked the same way?

It's not racism, I agree, but might be a valid question.

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Originally Posted by osarusan

I think the question is that if the 2 people who refused to buy booze had been Irish lads, would they have been attacked the same way?

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a lot may depend on how the answer was given. But I take your point

16 year old to appear in court this morning in relation to the death of one of the two Polish lads.

EDIT: 17 year old charged this morning with the murder of one of the victims.

Will they be tried as adults? Even as adults would get more than 5 or 6 years?

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Originally Posted by pete

Will they be tried as adults? Even as adults would get more than 5 or 6 years?

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According to the news report the accused can't be named as he is a "minor". Tends to indicate he'll be tried as one.

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Originally Posted by pete

Will they be tried as adults? Even as adults would get more than 5 or 6 years?

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If they are tried and convicted of murder as an adult then a life sentence is mandatory. (How long they actually serve is another thing of course.)

I supposed if they had been allowed to buy alcohol this might never have happened.
Still, it is best to pretend that people under 18 don't drink, or have any more of
a right to drink than anyone over 18.

What right has the state to say what people can and cannot comsume?

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Originally Posted by TonyD

If they are tried and convicted of murder as an adult then a life sentence is mandatory. (How long they actually serve is another thing of course.)

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The could spend up to two year in jail if this case is a guideline.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7326439.stm

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Originally Posted by TonyD

If they are tried and convicted of murder as an adult then a life sentence is mandatory. (How long they actually serve is another thing of course.)

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He wont be tried for murder anyway it seem svery rare that any one in cases like this get done for murder. Prob get a manslaughter charge and since they are under 18 i reckon 5 years will be all he ll serve.Nothing will happen the girls involved.