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well get off your a**e and do something about it, the problem has been here for quite a while, petition your local representative(i presume your old enough to vote)to see what he/she can do.Write a letter to newsletter/inside cobh etc highlighting this if you feel that stronglyQuote:
Originally Posted by rambler14
oh dont tempt him ,please dont r14:DQuote:
Originally Posted by 6yardpunisha
Yes i'm old enough to vote but even if I wasn't it wouldn't mean sh*t.Quote:
Originally Posted by 6yardpunisha
The club needs a benefactor not a letter.
I tell ya if I won the lotto in the morning i'd buy the club a pitch where the 17's and Youth team could play and the senior team could train without a problem or bother of wrecking the pitch.
I have no intention of doing it bella but it'll be worth bringing up at the AGM.Quote:
Originally Posted by bellavistaman
anything to get a game or whatQuote:
Originally Posted by rambler14
No i'd be more of a Denis O'Brien sort of donator. I'd want nothing in return.Quote:
Originally Posted by 6yardpunisha
very good reply, very topical too, well done R14,just let me quietly get back in my boxQuote:
Originally Posted by rambler14
i played 2 and a half seasons for ramblers under 17s and 18s and i never paid for anything whilst there ever!
In our Ramblers utopia, we'd have a nice shiny pitch or two somewhere in the town for the underage games to be played on and for first team training.
But we don't. So get used to it, unless you have a spare full-size pitch in your back garden to donate.
Why do so many people feel its their right to come on this forum and slag the club, driving new players/supporters away, when they are doing absolutely nothing themselves to sort the situation out? This club is basically run by volunteers and its up to the club to use the very limited manpower and finances at its disposal to operate all aspects of Cobh Ramblers. Most of the people involved (including Eddie O'H whose post thankfully brought some sanity to this idiotic thread) are giving up their own time to try and give us a club to support and/or play for.
So why the hell do so many so-called supporters devote so much time to sticking the knife in from a distance instead of rolling up their sleeves and getting involved with the club? Its so cowardly and hypocritical. Going into our biggest season ever, we need everyone to rally round the club and get involved, instead of sitting at home scratching their backsides and sending stupid posts to this forum.
To those involved: Cop on lads. :mad:
Jeez, I thought you were going to say Bishopstown!?Quote:
Originally Posted by the sub
35kms away does seem to be a crazy decision!
bhs
[QUOTE=eddieohalloran;881463] There are some people of the opinion that we must be winning leagues and cups every year at Youth level. This is not our priority however, all it would be is an added bonus. Our priority is to produce players for the 1st team.
I would think that the first priority of any team entering leagues or cups must be to first win their league and any other competition they are entered in.I would see the added bonus being if two or three players out of a team can progress.If a team has good/the best players capable of stepping up a level then its goes without saying that their team must be in the running for trophies.Its hard to accept that a team manager would think that winning a league or cup is an added bonus,teams must first want to win and the good players will naturally progress to the next level.
agreed 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by chimpster
hear hearQuote:
Originally Posted by chimpster
[QUOTE=cmcd;881649I would think that the first priority of any team entering leagues or cups must be to first win their league and any other competition they are entered in.I would see the added bonus being if two or three players out of a team can progress.If a team has good/the best players capable of stepping up a level then its goes without saying that their team must be in the running for trophies.Its hard to accept that a team manager would think that winning a league or cup is an added bonus,teams must first want to win and the good players will naturally progress to the next level.[/QUOTE]
i used to think of it this way aswel but id rather a youths team that finished bottom every year but produced players of the cummins and cambridge mould! winning isnt eveything development is the key!
this problem is really not the clubs fault, it is simply the fact land is so expensive and to set up a pitch with facilities is going to set you back 300k , i know this is an answer some wont like but the answer is staring us right in the face, why not adopt the samepolicy as dundalk and bring in an artificial pitch, every club team could play and train on it , maintenance costs would be cut and the added bonus would be you could rent it out to all for 80- 100 euro a go, could you imagine the interest say you were in a shipping league or nightowls etc you could hire the ground for league games or finals, people would love to play in a league of ireland ground,
pluses
cut costs
increase revenue
no need for training ground
minuses
perceptions about pitch etc
how many players do you think would be attracted to play for a team finishing bottom every year.get the best players win all you can and get a reputation as a great winning team/club and thats how you get players to come and play for the club,then with the right coaching there might be 7/8 players progressing rather than 1 or 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by MojoPin
cmcd i would disagree with what you are saying. Players at 16, 17, 18, are looking to develop, or should be looking to develop, in order to progress. The 17's and 18's at Ramblers is simply a stepping stone for the first team, good young players dont need to be taught how to win, and good young players know and will be told, as eddie o halloran pointed out, that progression as a footballer first may eventually lead to first team football. This, I assume, is why players will want to play for Ramblers. Winnning the AUL youth league in 2008 will be no good to a footballer if in 2010 he's sitting on a barstool talkin about what a great team he was in.
would we not be back to the age old agruement if we brought in the best players where are the cobh players!Quote:
Originally Posted by cmcd
cork city go get the best players everyyear for their 17'sand 18's yet our youth system has produced ten fold what they have.
Roy keane, cummins, cambridge, meade x2, mickey o shea, kieran reilly to an extent(played msl for a while as a div 1 team),
winning is not everything!for youths anyway.
if you were given the option of gaining two players to the senior squad next year from the youths or have the youths win the league and gain no players to the senior squad which would you pick?
my position exactly in an uncanny way ha!Quote:
Originally Posted by neutral
back to my artificial pitch thing, dundalk are getting 120 euro and hour or 200 euro for 2 hours, if rams rented it for 20 hours a week they would get 125 k in revenue imagine what that would do for club and there probably is agrant for these pitches