how do you figure that GT , no way they would have a draw that early surely ? the lion king dancers would be kicking off after breakfast at that rate!
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did someone say we are definitely 3rd pot?
1958. ;)
The thing isn't necessarily qualifying from the play-offs, but just reaching them gives you a chance and some sense of achievement from the campaign. Even when we lost to Russia 2 campaigns ago I was gutted but proud of what we had achieved. But we'd never achieve that in a 7 or 8 team group because the consistency wouldn't be there, injuries and suspensions would take their toll too.
good result for your boys last night Cymro, surely Toshack can blood a few of those youngsters in the next campaign? If we had beaten France 4-2 last night at that level this place would be in meltdown :)
Future looks quite good to be fair, but those players won't all make it at senior international level. Hopefully they all get a good start in their club careers though and 3 or 4 will graduate to become proper senior internationals.
Word on the street it is at 4pm our time
The Good
Czech Republic: They were there for the taking in this group. Wouldn't mind Germany either. I fancy us at home against anyone, and they won't drop any points at home, leaving us in a straight fight with the 2nd seed. Would prefer that to a side you can never be sure of, like England. It would be all we need for England to loose at home to the 4th seed.
Russia: Looked terrible against Israel. Plus, we owe them a hiding. Wouldn't mind Scotland. Ukraine could be OK with Shevhenkos powers waning
Slovakia: Looked a bad lot in this campaign.
Liechtenstein: Yes please, 6 points
Luxembourg: Even worse. Not to far into eastern Europe either.
The Bad
England or Holland: Never know if they will show up. Bet they would against us though
Poland: Ran away with their group.
Cyprus: Their home record is now looking strong
Iceland: The Gudjohnson factor. Nice away day though
Montenegro: False position. Surely only below Liechtenstein cos they are new.
The Ugly (A Balkan nightmare??)
Croatia - Awkward game in Split
Serbia - Awkward game in Belgrade
Macedonia or Bosnia
Azerbiajan/Belarus - Good luck finding a decent hotel
Montenegro - Unknown quantity. New country
Belgium would be better avoided. It might not survive 2 years as a country and points could be left flying everywhere after the event.
I'd be delighted to avoid any trips to eastern europe. Though the chances of us ending our shocking away record against anybody of note are very remote, i figure we'd have no chance out east.
Thus I'll be hoping to avoid Romania, Serbia, Ukraine, Poland and Russia out of the second seeds.
Same goes for Macedonia, Georgia, Moldova and Albania in the fourth pot, and Armenia, Lithuania, Belarus, Azerbiajan, Kazakhstan of the rest.
Some christmas list eh??
Croatia looked class tonight, thoroughly outplayed England in tough conditions. I'd say they're ones to avoid.
The Czechs aren't to be underestimated either as they did win our group above Germany, who some are tipping to win the Euros.
I'd take England on the basis of tonight.
Most if not all of the first seeds will get there.
So it's down to the other 44 to scrap for 4 places...
did england drop to second second seeds after last night does anyone know, as romania won!?
yes citizen they did
latest rankings are
R Country Pts
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1 Italy 1498
2 Spain 1349
3 Germany 1296
4 Czech Republic 1290
5 France 1243
6 Portugal 1241
7 Netherlands 1170
8 Croatia 1129
9 Greece 1114
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10 England 1113
11 Romania 1088
12 Scotland 990
13 Turkey 914
14 Bulgaria 879
15 Sweden 864
16 Russia 861
17 Poland 855
18 Israel 849
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19 Serbia 842
20 Norway 831
21 Ukraine 811
22 Denmark 786
23 Northern Ireland 784
24 Ireland 739
25 Finland 699
26 Switzerland 663
27 Belgium 595
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28 Slovakia 592
29 Hungary 581
30 Bosnia-Herzegovina 578
31 Moldova 573
32 Macedonia 555
33 Wales 553
34 Belarus 552
35 Lithuania 542
36 Cyprus 502
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37 Georgia 407
38 Albania 397
39 Slovenia 396
40 Latvia 392
41 Iceland 384
42 Armenia 370
43 Austria 354
44 Kazakhstan 294
45 Liechtenstein 261
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46 Azerbaijan 248
47 Estonia 225
48 Malta 185
49 Luxembourg 127
50 Montenegro 65
51 Andorra 59
52 Faroe Islands 13
53 San Marino 6
to be confirmed offically tomorrow though
Have a peek here