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Originally Posted by citizenerased
Finnan good player but a right back, hardly the most influential position on the field
Duff - Never bloody fit
McGeady and o'Shea, would any body rate these as good players?
Just wise up lads, the talent aint there. And, its no the FAI's fault, the the fault of the Irish people for not supporting the EL
I dont agree, having a half decent EL isnt gonna be the saviour of Irish football. Sure, everyone would love to see the EL do well, but regardless of how much progress is made the top young players are gonna choose england and the british £ ahead of stying in Ireland.
And citezenerased point was medals dont always show the worth of a player, sheasy has got a premier league but is far from being our best player.
To say that we dont have the players is a cop-out, are our players that bad that a 5-2 reverse at the hands of cyprus is as good as we should expect? No!
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Originally Posted by mrtndvn
Wait a second, its not the fault of the FAI that they have failed to develop interest in the EL post Euro 88/Italia 90/USA 94???????? Football is now competing with GAA for the hearts and minds of youngsters in this country yet the national league is still a joke.....not the fault of the FAI? They have squandered millions on ill-advised projects (Eircom Park to name but one) and constant in-fighting which could have been invested in the domestic league. Their myopia and lack of forward-planning is exactly the reason why both our national league and (now) our national team are a joke....
And I firmly believe that with any half-decent manager at the helm, we would have the players to easily get out of that group...
Your right Dr Ogba it is the FAIs fault they never invested the monies needed to develope the game in this country. First stage coaching course is I think 300euro to do. surely they dont need that much money off it. If they bothered their arses to help educate the many managers in the country who are chomping at the bit to help out young lads we wouldnt be as badly off as we now are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. Ogba
They are making an effort to improve the amateur game in this country which is a help because if we can improve this level then the underage lads can improve as they come through their respectve clubs then maybe the Eircom League might benifit.
I for one wish they had squandered a few more million and actually completed the damned place. Very similar to the stadium in Cologne, or maybe Anfield, which generates a brilliant atmosphere and could hardly fail to give us genuine home advantage. Croker does little for me as an international football venue and Bertie's "national stadium" plans left me cold.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. Ogba
1: we are not, never have, and never will compete with the GAAQuote:
Originally Posted by Dr. Ogba
And two, having a strong EL will improve our international team. It will push up the average standard of players Ireland has.
A strong EL is the only way forward, we need the Irish public to wake up to that, its is there fault we dont have the international players.
Our players are s***e, thats why we never qualified.
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Originally Posted by mrtndvn
I do actully agree with you re the EL, its obvious guys like Doyle Long Houlihan, Murphy et al are proving that if young lads decide to stay in the EL till they've matured a bit (early twenties) then they have a much better chance of getting first-team football at an early age which in turn brings (if they're good enough) transfer fees to EL clubs which enables them to invest in facilities/young players etc etc. A better standard of player will always attract more crowds but this is only half of it...Irish crowds aren't going to suddenly "wake up" and decide to go to EL matches, and I'm sure this has been discussed ad nauseum on the EL forums, but there needs to be investment in the facilities and under-age infrastructure by the FAI to ensure that our youngsters have an option other than heading-abroad in search of £££...
In fairness, they have begun to pull the finger out: investment in amateur football as Stutts alluded to earlier and also they have been marketing the EL quite well recently by appointing development officers at each club but there's still quite a bit of work to do before the fans suddenly "wake up"....
Oh and the reason that we're out of contention for qualifying...The manager and noone else...