Strip Sagas

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Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

Apparently they were told by Buttimer in advance not to bring their home kit, and to bring their away kit, as it clashed with Waterford's home kit under the floodlights.

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I dunno if that is common practice, to sort things out like that prior to a game. I would have thought that it would be a very shoddy way to do things, eliminating the options before you even get inside the county where the game is to take place.

If the ref gave the go ahead for that then he is completely culpable for this, and if this actually was the case then there is no grey area, its black and white .... the guy that is meant to adjudicate and control all aspects of the game got it completely wrong on the day.

Which brings it back to the question, how can you bring about change for this? Is the ref even answerable in this case? When is the next time this will happen and will anything have been learnt for the last time?




Dublin City ripping shirts they had borrowed??? :eek:

It is so simple as to beggar belief. Ref does and should have the final say. All the men in black - yellow - red should have a list detailing club kits for the season with avatar type images. He advises both clubs as to what kits to wear (home team to take precedence of course); he selects a suitable outfit for himself and everybody turns up for the costume ball in their appointed garb. Any changes to kits in mid-season must be forwarded to the aforementioned men in black - yellow - red. I think they used to call it communication.

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Originally Posted by A face

Dublin City ripping shirts they had borrowed??? :eek:

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Yes. Our away gear at the time which had a tight round neck - slit each one of them.

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Originally Posted by atfconline

Yes. Our away gear at the time which had a tight round neck - slit each one of them.

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Did they even ask before doing so? :eek:

I have heard of pushing the boat out but they sailed this one away imo, they replaced the kit i take it, i mean they have to have replaced the kit, please say this is the case?

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Originally Posted by A face

Did they even ask before doing so? :eek:

I have heard of pushing the boat out but they sailed this one away imo, they replaced the kit i take it, i mean they have to have replaced the kit, please say this is the case?

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Dont think they asked but they didnt replace it either.
We played on with it for the rest of the season.

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Originally Posted by Ash

Dont think they asked but they didnt replace it either.
We played on with it for the rest of the season.

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You couldn't make this stuff up :eek::mad:

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Originally Posted by atfconline

Yes. Our away gear at the time which had a tight round neck - slit each one of them.

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I demand that Dublin City are re-instated to the league, and then thrown out again as punishment for this classless act of criminal damage.

They should also be severely warned as to their future behaviour.

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Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

Apparantly they were told by Buttimer in advance not to bring their home kit, and to bring their away kit, as it clashed with Waterford's home kit under the floodlights.

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Absolute utter nonsense! You would seriously consider where you get your information. I can categorically tell you now that the above statement is untrue. Are you telling me that you believe that Mr. Buttimer contavcted Bohemians FC and told them that they were not to bring a specific or any kit to a game?

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Originally Posted by A face

I dunno if that is common practice, to sort things out like that prior to a game. I would have thought that it would be a very shoddy way to do things, eliminating the options before you even get inside the county where the game is to take place.

If the ref gave the go ahead for that then he is completely culpable for this, and if this actually was the case then there is no grey area, its black and white .... the guy that is meant to adjudicate and control all aspects of the game got it completely wrong on the day.

Which brings it back to the question, how can you bring about change for this? Is the ref even answerable in this case? When is the next time this will happen and will anything have been learnt for the last time?




Dublin City ripping shirts they had borrowed??? :eek:

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A face, i can tell you that it did not happen. You are totally correct, it is not common practice. No referee in the league would contact a club to tell them what to and what not to wear. In fact no referee would contact a club directly for anything.

If the need arose for some strange reason that a match official needed to contact a club they would do so through the league office.

Officials turn up at a ground for a game. More often than not both sets of kits are placed in the refs room prior to him/her arriving. Obviously both sets of jersys cannot clash and that includes the sleeves if they are fuuly the same colour. The 2 sets of shorts can be the same colour if needs be but the socks must be different for both clubs.
The goalkeepers shirt must not clash with the opposition's shirts and that includes the sleeves if they are fully the same colour. The goalkeeper and outfield players shirts must also not clash with the ref. In a worst case scenario both goalkeepers can wear the same colour but that is only as a last resort.
That is how the kits are compared and agreed on. The referee will then decide to wear whatever colour does not clash with the outfield players and goalkeepers.

As i have stated in my first post, one club brought 1 strip when they should have brought a second. The second club engaged in a little bit of gamesmanship with the 'hooped' strip and a little bit of unprofessionalism ensued which should have been avoided. The referee did his job in accordance with the laws of the game. Those are the facts.

Everything else is idle speculation.

Now can we put an end to this debate and hope that clubs and officials conduct their business professionally from now on.:ball:

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Originally Posted by Copa Mundial

Now can we put an end to this debate and hope that clubs and officials conduct their business professionally from now on.:ball:

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You don't visit this site, or watch eL much, do you?:p

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Originally Posted by Copa Mundial

Now can we put an end to this debate and hope that clubs and officials conduct their business professionally from now on.:ball:

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Now if only that was the case.....................step forward Alan Kelly!!

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Originally Posted by btid1

.............step forward Alan Kelly!!

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I think he already did ;) :D

Same thing is after happening in France tonight, Marseille had to play in Auxerre's training jerseys. Well if its good enough for a CL team...........

I see the buck stops with the FAI. Prior to the kick-off to a new season each club have to inform the FAI of both their home and away strips. Most clubs operate on a voluntary basis, ie people working for the club for free. The FAI are a 'professional run operation' and they should be in a position to prevent strip clashes etc. Let's face it - what else do they spend their time at?

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Originally Posted by A face

Bohs were at fault - Not have the kit
Waterford were at fault - Schoolboy stupidity in the extreme

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Look, I relayed this before, but here goes again.
It is immaterial (see what I did there) how many shirts Mr. Buttimer had with him, Bohs were told, by the League, & rightly or wrongly, not to wear their home kit because of a potential clash, in the floodlights, with Waterford's strip. Was it then their fault for not bringing it? You seem to think so.
(If it was with the referee that the clash was supposed to have been, he could have just donned his yellow jersey and problem solved. Therefore it wasn't. Also it was League officials and not the referee that contacted Bohs initially, don't know where someone got that from.)

The ref then decided that the blue sleeves would cause too much of a clash in goalmouth melees and the like, so nixed Bohs' away strip as well. This, unlike the first decision, has a basis in sense.

Waterford did not offer and then take back the white kit. That is a scurrilous comment. :D As I understand events Bohs rejected the kit initially, probably as it was some kind of training kit, then when faced with the only alternative which was the green and white hoops of Villa FC, they accepted the white kit.

Waterford were not at fault in any way in this, but when did the facts ever get in the way of a good healthy bias, eh face?

I propose that stann wrassle Copa Mundial on webcam for the title of "Provider of THE FACTS".

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Nah Copa Mondial has almost the same story I have, just a tad misguided about the offer of the replacement shirts. ;)
I also at this point will add a bit of pure speculation that another reason the Bohs management initially baulked at wearing the 3rd kit might be that they were a bit peeved about following the advice they got in good faith, only to find out that things were still not right on the night. I'd be inclined to dig me feet in a bit in those circumstances too.

How about these jerseys from the Rugby World Cup. Referee must be colour blind to see a difference. Was amazing they did not change jerseys at halftime either.

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Dublin City ripping shirts they had borrowed???

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When we played Derry in the cup this year, our socks clashed as both were white. Derry had to borrow our U21s, which were dark navy.

I was in Finn Park the morning after the game, and whatever socks the Derry players couldn't tie to the pipes running into the showers in the away dressing room they cut into shreds with a pair of scissors that were laying around.

Bad, bad form from a crowd of full-time professionals.

Maybe they didn't want to get fined for wearing the wrong socks so they tried to get rid of them :D