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I've been giving positives on here all day... You just dont want to see them...Quote:
Originally Posted by Nailer77
Some of what I've read has been fair and free from personal abuse....not most of it. I thought the News of the world on Sunday was very fair. It was the only one I could find that didnt sensationalise in its headlines.
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Some people have to realise that journalists and fans in general don't go after a person/manager for no reason.
If we didn't get hammered by Cyprus and Holland and then struggle to beat San Marino, Staunton wouldn't get the criticism he's getting. Its up to him to turn that around and if Ireland are still playing ****e he will rightly be criticised.
Same went for Charlton, McCarthy and Kerr annd the same will go for future Irish managers, even Keane.
What positives? That he picked Reading youngsters that were performing in the PL regardless? Yes, that takes genius alright.Quote:
Originally Posted by craig7042
The call up of McShane? He fell into that one through enforced injuries.
The recall of Carsley were he realised his mistake? Rubbish, Carsley was one of the few midfielders we had playing to a decent level in the PL and the only reason Stan recalled him was again because of injuries, he didn't want Carsley back.
The bad time of year to play Chile and Holland? Come of it, thats not even a postitive, I don't know what that is.
These are not positives they're basic feature of the job as in picking the best available players and playing games on the available and designated international dates.
in fairness craig i can't see many positives either. any manager would have selected the players mentioned above. and thats not any good manager thats ANY manager. the fact he is not a total pumpkin (if per say he neglected to call up the nations top performers in the EPL) is not reason enough to celebrate the man.
as a football nation, who have qualified reasonable regularly for the finals of tournaments for 20 years or so, we deserve more than what we have been given as a national team boss.
blindly following a manager despite his obvious inadequacies does not make one fan better than another. by being a dedicated football supporter you are entitled, in my view, to question the decisions and selections of the manager of the team you support. yes a reporter in his parents back yard is wrong but people on here stating that he is not up to the job is fair game imo.
Yeah! In fact it should be worked into every second post on this board along with a veiled insult and an obvious reference to a poor result...Quote:
Originally Posted by galwayhoop
I'm with Craig on this one... I question the mans abillity. I do. I resent the FAI for putting me in this situation more than antything else but it's a case of having the serenity to accept what I can't change, Focus on what little positives there are and get behind the team and manager.
i will support the team fully for 90 minutes tomorrow in croke park as i have for the czech game, san marino game and wales game. absolutely.
but on here i will point out the managers and players inadequacies ad nausim. do some of ye think supporting a team means blindly following them regardless of how inept they are?
i won't boo and i won't heckel. i will groan at misplaxced passes though and i will cheer as loud as possible when/if we score. but what the fúck is wrong with me saying the manager is useless and some of the players don't seem to give a tóss?
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Originally Posted by dr_peepee
And I'll do that when I'm in Croke park tomorrow but I'd have thought the purpose of these boards is to discuss the football and not blindly support the irish team regardless of performance. And when the negatives outweigh the positives then you have to discuss them or you're not being honest.
Exactly.. But come on.. Has anyone learnt anything new about stan or formed a valued opinion on him in the last 48 hours.. The same posts regurgitated, some constructive, some abusive, some just ri-god-damn-diculous.
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Originally Posted by dr_peepee
So what should we just all stop posting? I learnt that he still has no idea how to cope with the media and that giving them 35 seconds when they have 2 whole days of print to fill prior to a game was not a smart thing to do. How does he think they'll portray him now? He's not learning from his mistakes. I've learnt that while I agree with the idea behind his selection that he himself has no sense of conviction or continuity in the players he picks. I'm not going to post something positive if I don't believe it.
Well I think he was right to walk away from them after thirty seconds.. What more did you want to know appart from Ireland and Given being fit.
he'd be even more right to keep on walking!
I wanted to hear his thoughts on the Slovaks for a start.Quote:
Originally Posted by dr_peepee