McShane at left back,I don't see why he can't play there,he's a good player and can do a good job there.O'Dea is much better in the centre,himself and Dunne would breath confidence along the back line.
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McShane at left back,I don't see why he can't play there,he's a good player and can do a good job there.O'Dea is much better in the centre,himself and Dunne would breath confidence along the back line.
Is Mc Shane right footed. As he ever played left back at any left. Does he have the mobility and ability to get forward that a left back needs. I think O Dea has played left back and is left footed. Just asking questions but I think Mc Shane would be a risk at left back whereas Stephen Kelly would not be as he has played ver well there.
Hunt could add a bit of urgency to our play that can be lacking at times. If he struggles, McGeady could be introduced with fresh legs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dublin12
Hunt's not afriad to mix it either and, (based on the line up above) he could compensate for Stephen Ireland's lack of physical stature.
An alternative midfield comprising of:
Hunt Carsley Douglas Duff
Its certainly got a bit of strength to it but not a lot of subtlty bar Duff (when in form).
Realistically you know Stan is going to fit O Shea in somewhere and Kilbane will be in there as well.
Stan's team
Given
Finnan O Shea Dunne Harte
McGeady Carsley Kilbane Duff
Keane Doyle
This is what it should be
Given
Finnan McShane Dunne Kelly
Hunt Carsley Ireland Duff
Doyle Keane
Kelly had a cracker in the first half against the Czechs at left back and wasn't really tested in the second half so he deserves his place.
kilbane rarely lets us down.
o'shea is consistently the worst member of the current squad. i can't believe honestly why anyone on this forum would have o'shea on the team in any position. am i being too harsh here?? the lad could not complete a 3 yard pass against san marino at home-i just dont get it really. He's absolutely awful for us.
Not one of the lot of you have any Balls.
Keane should be dropped. He hasn't scored against decent opposition since Germany in the WC. His whining attitude permeates the team. Unfortunately he _will_ get picked, he _will_ let us down again, he _will_ get slated after the game and yet he _will_ be the first name on everyone's list for the next game.
Personally I'd start with Doyle and Stokes.
Given
Finnan
Dunne
O'Dea
O'Shea
Duff
Douglas
Carsley
Hunt
Doyle
Keane
Personally i wouldnt have Ireland near the team. His confidence can not be great and for the last 4 or 5 games he has been woeful along with most of the city players. i feel we lack a bit of shape and backbone with Ireland in midfield. If only we had Joey O'Brien and Stevie Reid. I think Folan will be used as an impact sub.
We could also go with a front three of Keane Doyle and Duff and a centre midfield of Carsley Douglas and Ireland. Our best performances so far under staunton have been Sweden and Czech Rep at home when in both games we played a mixture between a 4 5 1 and a 4-3-3.
Given
Finnan Dunne Mc Shane Kelly
Carsley
Douglas
Ireland
Keane Duff
Doyle
Keane and Doyle could be interchangable. Spurs do this with Berbatov Keane and Lennon.
Definitly think our best back four at the moment is,
2.McShane
3.Finnan
4.Dunne
5.O'Dea
Midfield, Carsley has to play and I'd go with McGeady, Duff and Ireland to play with him.
Keane and Doyle up front, hopefully Doyle is fit, if not we might have to see just how good Keogh is cos he's banging in more goals than Stokes at the moment.
I know Stan will have a heart attack though if he doesn't play O'Shea and Kilbane:rolleyes: , so i'm not holding out much hope of seeing that side line out.
Given
Finnan Dunne McShane O'Dea
Duff Carsley Douglas Kilbane
Keane Doyle
Seen O'Dea play left full. While he is a bit slow, he reads the game well.
I haven't been impressed by Ireland lately, perhaps in the future. Its going to be a typical, physical “Premiership type game”. Will need Kilbane, Douglas and Carsley's battling ability to break down Welsh defence, perhaps with Duff in the hole behind the 2 strikers.
Seen Wales play a few times and that's the flank Bellamy goes wandering on, that's why I though it might be better to have Finnan out there, McShane at Right Full (where he's been playing well for his club) and O'Dea at Centre Back with Dunne??Quote:
Originally Posted by drummerboy
I was sure we were going to beat Wales before I thought about picking a team. Going on past selections Stan will go with
Given
Finnan, Dunne, McShane, O'Shea/Harte
Duff, Carsley, Ireland, Kilbane
Keane, Doyle
The problem with this team is that they won't score goals and everything will depend on Duff Creating the chances. Like or loath Kilbane, he always gives 100% and is there for his hight (we must hace the smallest team in the Europe) but he can't score goals.
My selecetion is different and a bit riskier but it contains players who can win the game
Given
Finnan, Dunne, O'Dea, Kelly
Duff, Carsley, Ireland, Hunt
Keane, Keogh
O'Dea is a far better defender than McShane and not such a loose cannon. Hunt provide a bit of drive and is a good crossed of the ball.
Keogh will provide the target man for Keane to play-off which he does best.
Doyle is not fit as he has hardly played in two months.
Stan should have gone with Lee or Murphy up front instead of Long who is far to light-weight and went missing against the might of San Marino.
Subs McGeady, Doyle, McShane, Kilbane, O'Shea.
Two from these five depending on form and needs.
I expect a win on Saturday and a draw on Wednesday.
I fear a draw on Saturday and defeat on Wednesday.
Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
Not Bad.... i would start
........................Given
.....Finnan....Dunne....McShane.....Kelly
.....McGeady... Carsley.... Ireland... Duff
...............Keane........Doyle
Having thought about it, there's no way Staunton is going to drop his in form goalscorer, with 2 goals in his previous 2 games - ladies and gentlemen take a bow Kevin Kilbane!
I wouldn't pick him, I'm just saying Stan will on his current international form, regardless of how good/bad Duff, Hunt and McGeady do in training.
i'm surprised to see Steven Kelly in so many peoples lineups, i think he's an absolute nightmare. kept a close eye on him whenever he was playing in lansdowne and thought he was VERY poor
I agree, I thought he had not played well for us. Hopefully he will improve but to date I thought he was, as you say, a nightmare.Quote:
Originally Posted by McGinty
What did he do wrong against the Czechs.
thats 45 mins of fairly average football out of the 3 games he's played
hes was rubbish in the Chile game, made my eyes bleed watching him. Dare i say it but Ian Harte is a much better full back
looks like McShane could be out of Saturday's game with an ankle ligament problem. Mr John O'Shea has got to be favourite to replace him - I'd prefer O'Dea personally.
Given
Finnan-Dunne-McShane-Harte
McGeady-O'Shea-Carsley-Duff
Keane-Doyle
Even though we all know Kilbane will start!