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14/03/2007, 2:41 PM
Dr.Nightdub

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Originally Posted by A face

Have Pats sold their soul ??

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Originally Posted by Brian Kerr

The key attraction for me and one of the main reasons why I am happy to come is that St Pat's will continue to play in Inchicore in what will be a modernised stadium...The thought of moving to somewhere like Tallaght was abhorrent to me...We have no intention of leaving Inchicore. The area needs St. Pat's and St. Pat�s needs the area.

How much clearer does it have to be? The soul of our club is in very good hands.
14/03/2007, 3:07 PM
DvB

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Originally Posted by Dr.Nightdub

How much clearer does it have to be? The soul of our club is in very good hands.

So Brian Kerr has the controlling interest in Pats then?
Or is he's merely going on what your new property speculating owner has told him!?
Not saying that this aint the holy grail you all seem to think it is, its just i wouldnt be quite so happy until i'd seen the guy walk the walk after all this talking he seems to be doing through Kerr!

Keep your eyes & ears open would be my opinion, at least until you're 100% sure of his long term intenions!

Koh
14/03/2007, 3:34 PM
Dodge

No one knows DvB, some of us are slightly more grounded than others BUT Brian Kerr is god, and if he's attached that'll keep me happy for a little bit. A relation of mine has seen the plans he submitted months ago to DCC and they're ambitious but acheivable. Very little pie in the sky stuff that LOI chairman seem to love

I've done a bit of research on Kelleher for the past number of months. He's notoriously private regarding his business deals. Coming out so open about this one makes no sense and is totally at odds to his usual way.

His PR drive this week alone is impressive
14/03/2007, 3:45 PM
Dr.Nightdub

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Originally Posted by DvB

So Brian Kerr has the controlling interest in Pats then?
Or is he's merely going on what your new property speculating owner has told him!?
Not saying that this aint the holy grail you all seem to think it is, its just i wouldnt be quite so happy until i'd seen the guy walk the walk after all this talking he seems to be doing through Kerr!

OK listen, I accept you are far more familiar with property development and land banks and so on than me, and yes, I know you've been saying to me for yonks that this has all the hallmarks of big property deals you've seen happen before.

But bear in mind there's an equal possibility - the same building blocks (no pun intended! :D ), parcels of land, etc are being put in place in Inchicore for something that you or me or no-one else has ever seen before simply cos it's never been tried in this town before.

Of course I want to believe it's true and not believe the worst, same as any Pats fan. We all dream. But it's not just blind optimism on my part, it's also putting the two and two's together. I just posted this a couple of minutes ago on our forum, so to save meself the bother of retyping it all again...

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Originally Posted by Dr.Nightdub on our forum

The bit that makes me 110% convinced that all this is on the level is Kerr saying in today's Mirror that "�I told Johnny that Garrett didn�t want to come on board unless I was involved.�

Any doubting Thomases should note the sequence: no Kerr, no Kelleher. That's the key to this whole thing.

If Kelleher was merely after a land grab, he'd've simply plonked down �X million last autumn when he first came on the scene, Mulvey and some others would've probably bitten his hand off and we'd be much more at risk of a Milltown scenario.

That didn't happen.

Yeah, Kelleher wants Kerr involved, but not as a smokescreen or a front man - don't forget he's big enough to be able to tell Donald Trump to do one, he doesn't bloody need front men. He wants Kerr cos of his unparalleled track record at developing underage football talent. I'm guessing if he's building the tallest building in the States, he's not one to settle for second best at anything, be it skyscraper-building or youth development. Don't forget he went to the States on a tennis scholarship so he knows a bit about development of young sporting talent.

Go back donkey's years, to when the Ajax kit made a brief appearance in Richmond. That followed a visit to their academy in Amsterdam around the end of Kerr Era 1. You reckon whatever impression that visit left has been totally lost? I'm only putting two and two together out loud here, but I'd like to think that's what Kelleher and Kerr are aiming for.

Like I said, no Kerr, no Kelleher. Yes Kerr, yes academy, yes Kelleher, yes a revitalised Pats, yes a revitalised Richmond, yes a revitalised Inchicore, yes a bright gleaming future.

You want to see him walk the walk? He already has - he walked away last autumn, when we all first heard about him and thought all our Christmases had come at once. At the risk of repeating myself, no Kerr, no Kelleher. But Andy obviously didn't delete his number from his mobile and now we're at yes Kerr, yes Kelleher.

Hence my optimism. Now I'd love to stay and debate the thing with you some more but as you know, I'm in the process of moving. Pats aren't! :D
14/03/2007, 3:47 PM
geysir

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Ive done a bit of research on Kelleher for the past number of months. He's notoriously private regarding his business deals. Coming out so open about this one makes no sense and is totally at odds to his usual way.
His PR drive this week alone is impressive

You have to hope that he has the interests of the club at heart. He can do anything he wants. Are the interests of the club protected in legal documents?
14/03/2007, 3:55 PM
Dr.Nightdub

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Originally Posted by Dodge

He's notoriously private regarding his business deals. Coming out so open about this one makes no sense and is totally at odds to his usual way.

Maybe, just maybe, it's cos this isn't simply just another business deal to him - and a very chickensh1t one too, compared to some of his other stuff. Maybe it's cos he's got a personal interest in this beyond the money element?
14/03/2007, 3:58 PM
Jerry The Saint

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Originally Posted by Dodge

His PR drive this week alone is impressive

It's been hugely impressive.

Fearing the worst you could say that Kerr is either

A. Being lied to just as much as the rest of us.

or

B. In on the scam.

Neither scenario seems particularly likely to me but if they were true you'd have to wonder - why would Kelleher bother:confused: This is small fry compared to the attention and hassle that building Chicago's biggest skyscraper will bring you. He could have easily done a land grab without the PR blitz and building up of (possibly) false hope :eek: And why would there be plans to renovate Richmond - he could have come out with some pie-in-the-sky super stadium scheme down the road somewhere with no intention of ever building it?

Anyway, while there's still questions to be answered at least one clear thing has emerged that we can all agree on.

Tallaght is abhorrent.

:D
14/03/2007, 4:02 PM
wws

bang on jerry

but i suspect the 'Special K' team will be addressing the Pats massive on Friday directly.

There will also be a Big Macnas display - I urge all EL fans to give up supporting their clubs and follow Pats. The Delaneyship is dead. Long Live the Republic of Inchicorestan!
14/03/2007, 4:07 PM
Dr.Nightdub

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Originally Posted by wws

I urge all EL fans to give up supporting their clubs and follow Pats.

Nah, as we saw the other night, it's far more fun when there's fans of other clubs to humiliate.

We're from Inchicore and we're richer than you!
14/03/2007, 4:09 PM
Jerry The Saint

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Originally Posted by Dr.Nightdub

Maybe, just maybe, it's cos this isn't simply just another business deal to him - and a very chickensh1t one too, compared to some of his other stuff. Maybe it's cos he's got a personal interest in this beyond the money element?

This very week, Kelleher has been meeting with community representatives and other groups in Chicago to win support for his other (150-story, $2bn) project. The final plans will be unveiled in the next few weeks. Genuinely surprised to see him in Richmond yesterday but this would appear to back up the point above.
14/03/2007, 4:28 PM
paudie

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Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint

This very week, Kelleher has been meeting with community representatives and other groups in Chicago to win support for his other (150-story, $2bn) project. The final plans will be unveiled in the next few weeks. Genuinely surprised to see him in Richmond yesterday but this would appear to back up the point above.

Is Kelleher known as a Pats fan? Just wondering why Pats?
14/03/2007, 4:32 PM
wws

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Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint

This very week, Kelleher has been meeting with community representatives and other groups in Chicago to win support for his other (150-story, $2bn) project. The final plans will be unveiled in the next few weeks. Genuinely surprised to see him in Richmond yesterday but this would appear to back up the point above.

he wasnt in richmond yesterday!

my guess is those pics were taken last summer! :eek:
14/03/2007, 4:45 PM
TheSaint2002

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he wasnt in richmond yesterday!

my guess is those pics were taken last summer!

naa if ya look behind them the walls were only recently painted,

http://unison.ie/images_papers/news/...res/400932.jpg
14/03/2007, 5:21 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by paudie

Is Kelleher known as a Pats fan? Just wondering why Pats?

Have you seen the state of the other Dublin clubs. Not even a contest...

Oh and hoopdub, ever hear of a rhetorical question?
14/03/2007, 5:27 PM
WeAreRovers

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Have you seen the state of the other Dublin clubs. Not even a contest...

The 2 most famous and successful Dublin clubs aren't for sale so that leaves Shels or Pats.....

KOH
14/03/2007, 5:29 PM
Jerry The Saint

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Originally Posted by wws

he wasnt in richmond yesterday!

my guess is those pics were taken last summer! :eek:

We can't rule out the possiblity of cloning. Or have you forgotten just how rich this guy is? :eek:
14/03/2007, 5:32 PM
Bald Student

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Originally Posted by WeAreRovers

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Have you seen the state of the other Dublin clubs. Not even a contest...

The 2 most famous and successful Dublin clubs aren't for sale so that leaves Shels or Pats.....

KOH

Don't forget about Dublin's least successful and least famous club. We're not for sale either!
14/03/2007, 5:35 PM
Jerry The Saint

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Originally Posted by Bald Student

Don't forget about Dublin's least successful and least famous club. We're not for sale either!

All good points. Also we're the only football club with plans (now!) to stay in the city.
14/03/2007, 6:00 PM
Bald Student

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Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint

All good points. Also we're the only football club with plans (now!) to stay in the city.

Only just, Belfield Bowl is about 5 yards from the border with the Corpo and is a few hundred yards further from O'Connel Street that Richer.
14/03/2007, 7:25 PM
Dodge

Whatever culchie

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