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19/12/2006, 9:05 AM
cavan_fan

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Its not 400K, its between 10-18k for each premier division club. First division clubs get nothing. I'd much rather they sent the money on a dedicated, co-ordinated advertising/marketing budget at a national level. If they had a fund which clubs could draw down from (on the basis of costed plans) all the better

Seems an odd way of doing it, who's going to work full time for 18K? Why not have 4 regional officers, one person could do all Dublin teams etc
19/12/2006, 10:44 AM
manic da hoop

Nobody's going to get out of bed for anything like 18K - it's meant to be a contribution towards the person's wage. Any club wishing to appoint anyone of reasonable substance to do the job would expect to at least match that amount themselves.

I assume that the above grant can only be drawn down in the event that the club sees the appointment through and actually employs someone, as opposed to just pocketing the 18K and using it for something else?
19/12/2006, 11:06 AM
pete

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

In which case, surely spending 18k on one is better than spending no money on none at all ?

Its also good that this been done largely at a local level. Local promotion of eL clubs is a lot better than a National campaign which would be wasted on areas which have to eL football. I think the idea is that the FAI are encouraging clubs to get their act together off the field. 50% funding may be a good policy for other off the field initiatives.
19/12/2006, 11:17 AM
Poor Student

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Originally Posted by pete

Its also good that this been done largely at a local level. Local promotion of eL clubs is a lot better than a National campaign which would be wasted on areas which have to eL football. I think the idea is that the FAI are encouraging clubs to get their act together off the field. 50% funding may be a good policy for other off the field initiatives.

I agree. While there's a few people who like to attend eL games in general most of us develop a strong affinity for a particular club. Local targeting allows individual clubs to target their locality and establish a place in the local community. I assume Noel Mooney will be running a seperate national campaign that will raise general awareness of the league. Has the eL ever had a TV advertising campaign?
19/12/2006, 11:25 AM
Schumi

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Originally Posted by manic da hoop

I assume that the above grant can only be drawn down in the event that the club sees the appointment through and actually employs someone, as opposed to just pocketing the 18K and using it for something else?

I think the clubs are required to appoint someone.
19/12/2006, 11:29 AM
pete

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Originally Posted by Poor Student

I assume Noel Mooney will be running a seperate national campaign that will raise general awareness of the league. Has the eL ever had a TV advertising campaign?

Details have not been announced but I would see his role as offering guidance to the local officers. He could launch campaigns national but allow the them to be implemented by the local officers. He could also distribute consistent branded promotional material. Will be interesting to see how its run but surprisingly seems a good FAI decision & people should be less cynical.
19/12/2006, 11:33 AM
Poor Student

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Originally Posted by pete

Details have not been announced but I would see his role as offering guidance to the local officers. He could launch campaigns national but allow the them to be implemented by the local officers. He could also distribute consistent branded promotional material. Will be interesting to see how its run but surprisingly seems a good FAI decision & people should be less cynical.

To me it's by far the most positive development to do with the merger. It's definitely a step in a forward direction.
19/12/2006, 11:35 AM
Dodge

Clubs are required to appoint somebody but from what I've heard most clubs are just going to give a new title to people already in their clubs and use the money to pay for some of their salary.

Noel Mooney is in charge of co-ordinating the clubs but what happens if a guy is being emplyed by, say, Galway and they get relegated. Presumably the FAI funding stops (as they must now fund the promoted club) so what happens the programmes put in place by this guy? It just seems very short sighted and the amount of money pitiful. Don't get me wrong I'm grateful for any kind of investment, I just think this is a half arsed way of doing it.

Getting clubs involved in the communitities is obviously the way to go but the league needs serious investment and IMO the FAI should be trying to give the clubs assistance in this area. That can only really happen on a national level
19/12/2006, 11:42 AM
Billsthoughts

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Originally Posted by Poor Student

I. Has the eL ever had a TV advertising campaign?

yeah
I think saatchi and saatchi done it late 80s/early 90s.
Derry were league champs I think.
very hazy memory.
19/12/2006, 11:47 AM
NY Hoop

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Originally Posted by Billsthoughts

yeah
I think saatchi and saatchi done it late 80s/early 90s.
Derry were league champs I think.
very hazy memory.

Jeez remember that alright. Awful stuff though dont think it was on tv just the radio. "Get your tickets at Gortakeegan for the game on sunday" or some such rubbish.

Anyone else think that the appointments of Gavin and Mooney smacks of nepotism in a way in that both are connected to the game here and the appointments should have been proven outsiders?

KOH
19/12/2006, 11:51 AM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by NY Hoop

Anyone else think that the appointments of Gavin and Mooney smacks of nepotism in a way in that both are connected to the game here and the appointments should have been proven outsiders?

I've asked here what kind of qualifications Mooney has and some other have posted about the recent PFAI decisions (including moving their offices into the FAI's buildings in abbotstown). I'd have loved to seen outsiders come in with a fresh eye certainly
19/12/2006, 12:05 PM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by NY Hoop

Jeez remember that alright. Awful stuff though dont think it was on tv just the radio. "Get your tickets at Gortakeegan for the game on sunday" or some such rubbish.

It was a TV ad. Had good footage of Liam Coyle skinning a couple of players alive, and if I'm not mistaken even included picture of a dog on a pitch from Harolds Cross or somewhere...?!?!

I probably have it buried on an old VHS somewhere at home. Will try to have a look at Christmas.

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Originally Posted by NY Hoop

Anyone else think that the appointments of Gavin and Mooney smacks of nepotism in a way in that both are connected to the game here and the appointments should have been proven outsiders?

Totally agree. What experience or credentials do they have for their new roles ? Football people shouldn't be given off-the-pitch jobs in football. They rarely, if ever, know what they're doing or succeed. Poor decision.

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