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how could you possibly know that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
read green-bloods list again, he most certainly did not know of the additional ban because he wasnt told, presumably because CHF recieved the notification from the meeting on the 21st, and they were gone by then.
why is the onus on us in this case and the league in derry's case? :confused:
I was talking about the suspension he served.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roverstillidie
Agree, there should be no difference at all.Quote:
why is the onus on us in this case and the league in derry's case? :confused:
RTID, I don't know the actual details of the Rovers case, but the onus absolutely was on Derry in our case. And our solicitor proved the League had breached their rules and had erred/lied (depending in your point of view) on when they actually met.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roverstillidie
If we hadn't proved that we would have been screwed.
Dodge, JC etc - You seem to missing something vital here. If, as you say, it was Rovers responsibilty to check about possible suspensions, then why was it not Derry's responsibility to do likewise?
Also, both of you seem sure that Rovers didn't check about suspensions. How do you know this? I'm sure you'll admit that I know more about the ins and outs of Rovers business than you do and I'm 100% confident that we'll get our points back. Read from that what you will.
KOH
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Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
I mean in the sense that the league acknowledge it was up to them to inform you of the suspension, they failed to and the suspension was basically quashed.
Yet later in that meeting we are told its up to us to find out was Shields was suspended and not the leagues responsibility.
So is it up to the league to inform or the clubs to find out?
The same rule was not applied evenly during the same meeting..
I posted above the situations were the same (and therefore the onus was on Derry too) but they got away with it so aren't complaining. I was just answering previous posts on the Rovers situation...
Are yousayingindicating that Rovers checked with the league whether he was suspended and they said no? Please let this be true....
can Rovers appeal make an appeal?
it a shame that rovers lost the points Derry got away with it because they where notified too late so surely rovers should have away with it too as they recived no notifaction
I honstely think that if derry where in the 1st Div they would have lost the points too
but because if shels/cork go on too win the league by 2 points ahead of Derry the FAI are afaid of any legal battles that will follow
Rovers will be definitely appealing this farce.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainee
KOH
So you're saying that Rovers did check to see if he was suspended and were presumably told he wasn't.
The Derry and Rovers situations are completely different in my eyes. Sean Hargan was on Derry's books and they had not been informed of the suspension.
Rovers thought they were going to walk Division 1 and now that they're struggling to pull away from the pack they've resorted to cheating to win the league. :p
sent off he serves an automatic ONE ban not two so the 2nd game he missed for chf was either through injury or he was dropped.Heard this story weeks ago and at that stage rovers knew they were in the wrong but now they are trying to ride on the coat tails of the Derry decision. I still think the 3 points wont make any difference in the end but for some rovers fans to claim they are totally blameless in this is daft.
Can't comment any further, it's one of the restrictions that comes with club ownership. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
KOH
This is all related to League rules.
Derry proved the League failed to comply with the 48 hour notification rule.
Surely if Rovers can prove that, or another relevant rule was not followed then they stand a good chance of succeeding in overturning the ruling?
Despite all the conjecture about fairness, etc etc there is very little on here about actually what the rulebook says.
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Originally Posted by gufct
Keep telling yourself that. :rolleyes:
KOH
If Derry managed to prove this yesterday then why did Rovers not? It's not as if they weren't aware that this hearing was coming up.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
Same old homeless. Always cheating.
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Originally Posted by JC_GUFC
i have no love of shams...but this is ridiculous...inconsistencies again.....last year we had a player who wasnt registered properly for the first few games of the season...we got no punishment.....you never know what these clowns will decide on
they may have informed CHF within 48 hours....Quote:
Originally Posted by JC_GUFC
but as WaR says, none of us appear worried that we will actually lose 3 points. ;)
Oh grow up. How is it cheating when the league cannot do their job?? Always cheating? Give me one example.Quote:
Originally Posted by JC_GUFC
KOH
repost time
Some facts
june 23 - Sheils sent off Vs DErry
june 26 - did not feature for DC Vs Drogheda
june 30 - did not feature for DC Vs Longford
July 8 - back for Sligo
July 14 - played Vs Shels
July 14 - disciplinary committee meetig, although they claimed to Derry it was the 21st
July 19 - DCFC resign from league, all players free agents
July 21 - claimed date of meeting - lie, as revealed by DCFC
July 22 - sheils signed for SRFCJuly 22 - Derry informed of Suspension, outside time limit, no notification to Sheils or SRFC
July 23 - Sub Vs dundalk
July 28 - Sub Vs Athlone
Aug 4 - did not feature Vs Galway
Aug 12 - sub Vs Kildare
Shiels sat out 2 games following his red card. The meeting on the 21st never happened as proved by Derry City. Rovers registered the player with no outstanding suspension. A suspension was handed down, no communication made to club or player, then 3 points were deducted.
I wonder does Mr Seery have a letter/email on his desk and waht date is on it? why would a suspension be sent on teh 22nd to a club that does not exist.
yeah we gotta stop scoring winners AFTER the regulation 90 minutesQuote:
Same old homeless. Always cheating.
Ignoring the points thing for a minute but do these two statements not scare the crap out of people. The new uper duper league that is going to be run by these people and yet they lie to the clubs involved etc. To me this is well scary and another indication of what is in store when the FAI have full control. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by green-blood
They wipe home farm's existence off the premier table with the points scenario and yet they wont wipe suspensions,completely contradicting themselves and secondly they never informed rovers and by the sounds of the above posts might actually have told them he wasn't suspended.Me thinks we'll be saying hello to our temporarily lost points very soon