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Originally Posted by Roo69
FFS ... .does that make it OK now so Roo ...... Jebus wept of course it fúcking doesn't
Cut the shít now and give us your opinion !!
Is this THE best appointment for the job ... yes or no ..... why?
Is Devlin compromised IN ANY WAY by taking up this job ??
Be sensible ffs .... are you that blinded !!
Who in the EL is better qualified than Devo to assess the talent there is around the league.
Even before this announcement, it would have come as no surprise to most BW fans if Devo announced he was stepping down from the day to day team management duties.
As Roo69 mentioned Tony McGuirk already has involvement with the U-19's and is well respected not only in Bray but also around the EL. John Finnegan who manages the U-21's is likely to play a more prominent role with BW EL team.
Why should Devo be compromised by taking this job, no more than anyone else would. Perhaps Pineapple Stu and Dodge would like to enlighten us on what 'major' English club Devo is scouting for? and perhaps Joema can tells us what Devo's own agenda is?
F**K Fintan Drury, he is an agent. Bobby Robson was never going to spend his weekends traipsing around EL games. This position definitely needed someone who knows the EL inside out.
It is encouraging that Steve Staunton has recognised that there may be a jewel waiting to be unearthed int eh EL and that he is prepared to give that league an opportunity to push it's talent onto the international stage even if it is a B level.
If another Kevin Doyle emerges from EL, I would be surprised if they were waiting for Devo to be pushing towards an English club.
The creation of the post is a good thing for the EL and Devo is a good choice for the role. Good luck to him, a real football man!
Shocking decision to appoint Devlin but just shows how much the FAI know or care.
Devlin is an unregulated "advisor", basically an illegal agent as he is not sanctioned by the FAI or FIFA.
Devlin should not be managing in the eL let alone get an FAI appointment. The eL is a small place & its well know that he has been advising players in other eL which is downright wrong.
Its exactly the same as say Alex Ferguson being Thierry Henrys unofficial advisor - would the FA allow that?
I suspect Drury has issues with advisers as they are not bonded like him & operate without any controls.
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Forget about personalities, first are there many other countries that have a B team???? If not who will the side play?? If there is a future for a B set up give the man a chance and if hes a flop then he can be changed
Personally I would prefer to see a limit to 3 subs in all friendlies with just a squad of 14 players and a B game as a warm up, this would cut the crap of 11 subs in a match per team and give the fringe players a full 90 minutes to show what they can do.
Scotland, Turkey, Germany, Austria and Poland played in the future cup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Forever Dreamin
http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish...?curpageid=482
The idea is good :ball:
The appointment is unbelieveable ?? :eek: :(
D'ya think many of the Cork players will be out to impress Devlin Friday night? Playing against Bray will be the obvious chance for players to stake their claim for a place in Devo's squad as he'll be a captive audience! :eek:
GREAT Idea IMHO !! Hopefully a lot of EL players will get a chance to play at the higher level. I think 3 or 4 players should be from the english championship though.
Zayed will be in there anyway
I'd go with most of what ye said but i don't hink there's any point in picking players who are definately never going to get near the full set up in the future ie Devine, Crowe and Heary. Players who maybe should have been considered more in the past but picking them now would just be a token gesture.
I'd be happy with 5 eL players in the squad as it'd then be clear that they are under serious consideration.
Presuming Stephens Grant and Ward are in the Under 21s and Danny Murphy and Pat McCourt aren't available . . . . . .
Gamble*,
Bradley,
Zayed**
and
George & Jason Byrne still deserve a look at this late stage.
*borderline, better all-round game than Georgie but mightn't have the pace for international game.
** even more borderline but could probably be confident of a place.
He has played underage for Ireland and is eligable!Quote:
Originally Posted by Risteard
I have a feeling that this could trun out to be a trial match for players making a move abroad...
I gave my opnion ! i think this is a great move for Devo and the players who ply there trade in the eL. At the end of the day this is to give players who are up and coming or on the fringe of the full squad, to give players experience at playing at a higher level etc....Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
I would think that most players in the league would be happy with "one of there own" getting the position as well, it means thta they will have a greater chance of playing at this type of level, but of course this will only count for a select few players who play in our league (it might not even effect any of our players)
The whole idea to to try and develop players for our Senior International Team, not to try and find players for english clubs, that idea is just so fcuking stupid !
As i've always said, if a player is good enough (example, Kevin Doyle) then he will be spotted and signed no matter were he is playing or who he is playing with.
The idea of Bobby Robson doing this job is, again just fcuking stupid. Does any seriously expect him to travel around the country every week to watch eL matches ? as i said before he would'nt have a clue about the players or the clubs. At least with Devo he knows it INSIDE OUT and BACK TO FRONT.
If any eL players were to be maybe brought intop the B squad i reckon they would be Gamble, Heary, Ward and possibly O'Callaghan
Agreed. The decision to go with an EL man is a good one, shame it's Devlin though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roo69
As I've said Pat Dolan would have been a great choice (and I don't particularly like him either).
You're overstating it Roo......Quote:
Originally Posted by Roo69
I can only remember him filling in once, McCaffrey is clearly the man in charge there, so I'd assume that McGuirk was managing a squad seen and assembled by McCaffrey. In the same situation McGuirk would be no better able to view players on a weekly basis so would be a bad choice too.
In terms of looking to the future and possible capsQuote:
Originally Posted by Roo69
Murphy (Rovers)
Heary(Shels) Bennett(CCFC) Gray(Drogs) Murphy(Cork)
O'Donovan (Cork) Gamble (Cork) O'Callaghan (Cork) Zayed (Bray)
Byrne (Shels) O'Flynn (Cork)
obvious Cork bias I know, but then I only get to see Cork play regularly and the rest rarely (a problem I'll share with Devlin) ;)
Quigley, Dicker, Ward would all be there, luckily at the moment there's a good crop to chose from.
I think Scotland have abandoned the idea of a Future team, I think Walter Smith got rid of it after a couple of games under his control.
Jason Byrne and Georga O'Callaghan are too old to develop into better players. Think the age limit should be 24 at a max
It depends on what other options are. Graham Kavanagh made his international debut when he in last 20s.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Nothing wrong with picking anybody for the senior team at that age but the B team should be a development team, not just a reward for playing well in the league. Its only my opninion mind
thats a ridiculous comment to make. its like you feels theres some precedent that ensures that no player is allowed to get better after they get to 23-24. players improve at different rates and at different times in their career. for a man with so many posts i would have thought you would have seen this by now, given your obvious love for the game. examples have been used before such as aldridge at oxford and sheringham winning 50 caps, the first of which at 29.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Livehead where did I say they shouldn't be considered for senior selection?
Aldridge is a rubbish example too. He only found out he was Irish around about his 29th birthday...