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The new manager needs to be appointed by 27/01/06 which is when the qualifiers for the 2008 European Championships will be drawn. A meeting will be held shortly after that between the football governing bodies of each nation in the group. In the time between the draw and the meeting the new manager will need to work out exactly when he wants to play each team and try to work towards that, hence the need for the appointment to be made by the above date.
The manager story has gone dead for a while cos the papers can fill their pages with reviews of the year, Keane going to Celtic, the demise of Man utd and so. Wait til theres a slow news day and the papers will have another name linked to the post.
I cant even think who it'll be, of those interested, wouldn't want any of them. Hopefully Givens won't be in charge of the Sweden game and will be got rid of as Under 21 manager too, as soon as possible.
Some stuff on Jansen, he seems to have disappeared off the planet after Celtic. Definitely in Japan in 2002.
WIM JANSEN
Wilhelmus "Wim" Marinus Anthonius Jansen (born October 28, 1946, Rotterdam) is a former Dutch Football player and manager.
He spent most of his playing career with his hometown team, Feyenoord, between 1965 and 1980. At Feyenoord, Jansen won four League Championships, one Dutch Cup, and one UEFA Cup. He also won the European Cup in 1970 when Feyenoord defeated Celtic 2-1 in Milan. Jansen would later manage Celtic. He also won 65 international caps with Holland and played in both of the Dutch sides which lost the 1974 and 1978 World Cup Finals.
Jansen signed for the American side Washington Diplomats in 1980, but after playing only 27 games for them, he returned to the Netherlands to sign for Ajax. Jansen stayed at Ajax until 1982, when he returned to Washington for a season, before retiring from playing in 1983.
He began his management career at his old club Feyenoord, where he worked as a coach, and then as assistant manager, between 1983 and 1987. After a season as manager of Belgian club SC Lokeren, he was appointed as Technical Director at second division SVV Dordrecht, where he won the league alongside his manager - future Rangers manager Dick Advocaat.
In 1991, he returned to Feyenoord as manager, winning the Dutch Cup in 1991 and 1992 and taking them to the semi-finals of the European Cup Winners Cup in 1991/92. He became Technical Director in 1992, with Hans Dorjee being appointed as manager, but Dorjee became ill and Jansen was forced to take over as manager again. Dorjee later resigned and was replaced as manager by Jansen's old team mate, Wim van Hanegem. Feyenoord won the Dutch Championship in 1993 and the Dutch Cup again the following season, but after a dispute with the executives of the club, Jansen left to work as assistant manager of Saudi Arabia alongside Leo Beenhakker. Between 1994 and 1997 he also managed Japanese side Sanfrecce Hiroshima.
On July 3, 1997, Wim Jansen was appointed as Head Coach of Celtic, replacing the sacked Tommy Burns. His appointment was notable as he was the first ever foreign manager to take charge of a top-flight Scottish football club. He went on to become a legend in the history of Celtic Football Club by guiding Celtic to their first League Championship in 10 years - end Rangers attempt to win 10 consecutive Championships. Yet, despite winning the League and the League Cup in season 1997/98, Jansen left the club less than 48 hours after the title was secured with a 2-0 home win over St Johnstone.
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wim_Jansen"
This one is in Dutch but you can decipher it - roughly
http://www.beijen.net/frank/cvs/jansen-w.htm
As I mentioned earlier in the thread he is back with Feyenoord now in some capacity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
This may be true. Does anyone know if the top seeded teams get a higher priority deciding the fixture dates? If so, we are fourth seeds so we are not going to have a major influence on the fixture setup, with or without a manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie
Theres no chance we will have someone appointed by then!!
no as far as i know its just open negotiation . i remember that mick went into the negotiation for the 02 qualifiers with the though that he wanted to get a certain combination of games either first or last cant rightly remember but i'm sure someone will pick me up on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irish_Praha
Indeed he is, 'Technical Advisor'Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
http://www.feyenoord.com/domains/def...12770000000046
Nice pictures but a pity there is not of Wim, I wonder how is hair is doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
Still very poodle-esque. He was on TV at the recent Stoke vs Leicester game, in the stands as a guest of Johan Boskamp.
The longer the manager saga drags along the more I am sure it'll be O'Neill.
Burley is now at S'hampton so that's him out of the race. Hiddink will go to a top European club after the WC I reckon, maybe MUFC. I think O'Neill's stock in England isn't as high as a few years ago and I reckon the MUFC opportunity has passed him by. No other PL club with a managerial vacancy is likely to tempt him in my opinion, unless Villa's new Irish owners offer him a load of £££££.
O'Neill, Ranieri & then Aldridge are now the three most likely in my opinion, with each being palatable in their own way, though Aldridge is clearly the poor man's option.
I see Troussier got sacked by Morocco
Real danger is always lurking.Quote:
I see Troussier got sacked by Morocco
There was an article on Duff or included stuff about Duff in a recent Sunday Indo. The only bit that I could read on-line was a reference to team spirit, something like 'you hear a lot about the Irish team spirit but the team spirit at Chelsea is much better'. It might have been an innocent enough remark, then again it mightn't.
Not the first time Duff has insinuated something like that either. You used to always hear him saying things like "playingt for Chelsea is great but nothing beats playing for Ireland". I think this supports my suspicion that playing under Kerr was a joyless experience for many players.
very dubious use of the facts there given that duff came out strongly in favour of kerr in the same article..
This link seems to work okay for that Duff article http://www.unison.ie/irish_independe...issue_id=13437
Yes there is some positive stuff about Brian and some chilling reflections of the emptiness.
"The team spirit at Chelsea is unbelievable. People have said over the years that the Irish team spirit is the best team spirit around but it's not a patch on the Chelsea team spirit, that's how good it is."
"You hope with the crowd and everything that we'll win but I didn't think we played anything special all through the group which all came together in Cyprus.
"I don't know have a notion why, we have a good young squad, lot of quality, but there was nothing there - nothing about us."
"Listen, we're all to blame but at the end of the day it's always the manager who seems to pay. They don't sack players at international level and Brian obviously paid for it. I'll always stand by him, he was always brilliant for me and if there was one person I wanted to get to the World Cup finals managing a team, it was him. I was devastated for him when it happened."
I think it has always been recognised that the two biggest influences in Damian's breakthtough into top flite football have been Brian Kerr and Pat Devlin.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
When Duffer was at Blackburn and was developing he was always considered to be an emerging talent. However when he went to Chelsea for £18m (or whatever) expectations at both club and international levels rose.
IMHO, since his transfer, two things have happended:
(1) he is not an automatic first choice at Chelsea and injuries have played a part in this.
(2) his Ireland form has dipped. I honestly believe that he is now more concerned with keeping himself in top nick for Chelsea than playing for ROI.
This is understandable when you consider the competition for places at Chelsea. I have been scathing of RMK, Fergie and MU over the years about their approach about RMK's Ireland appreances, but Duffer is now in this catagory and if his £80k per week (or whatever it is) contract may be jeopardised by getting injured while playing for ROI, then it is understandable why he may be less keen for 'risking it' with ROI than when he was an 'emerging talent' at Blackburn.
It is even more understandable for Duffer to adopt this attitude when he knows that ROI is not a 'world power' and that he will not be in the world showcase of the WC finals in Germany.
At the end of his playing career Duffer will end up having a lot less ROI caps than he should have had. Some of the shortfall will be as a result of genuine injury/suspension but many more will be as a result of 'club (self-interest) before country'
I've heard and read before that Duffer technically "failed" his medical when he was moving from Blackburn to Chelsea.
Seemingly one of the reasons ManU, Arsenal and Liverpool backed off was that Blackburn were obliged to reveal that their medical advice was that Duffer would be unlikely to play more than 30-35 games a season due to the weak shoulder.
As for Troussier being let go by Morocco. I'd be happy (very happy in fact) if Troussier got the job. I think our lads need something of a culture shock.
why was he sacked by morocco? is the african nations not just about to start?
apparently a difference of opinion with the moroccan FAQuote:
Originally Posted by klein4
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Originally Posted by Cowboy
I'm kinda worried that the FAI want to have someone in the job for the draw on the 27th and will appoint somone the likes of troussier with that deadline approaching...