Big Argument on RTE2 Now

I always thought brady was a good analyst altho he now seems to let the arsenal hatred of man u and his own personal resentment of keane for not going to WC 2002 to colour everything. I think Giles is by far the best of them all and his hour on Newstalk everyweek is essential listening to anyone who loves football.

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Originally Posted by Macy

but Quinn is a creep

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Quinn a creep? the guy gave 1 million sterling to charity.
Keane is a thug and a bottler. Always was always will be.
And Dunphy is his ar*e bandit......this topic has been done to death.....

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Originally Posted by joeSoap

I am a United fan, and I agree with Giles and Brady in what they said about Keane going public with his greivances. They should have been kept behind closed doors.

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so after an embarresing 4-1 defeat to boro you want you captain to come out and say nothing bad about the team !?!? in case it hurts there feelings ? maybe he should have said its not the winning its the taking part that counts.

keane was dead right to say it and lets not forget he has probibly been saying it in private for weeks but no one listened , and how can you argue with the results it got from players like smith in the chelsea game .

and also note the performance level has dropped back down to the way it was before the outburst since he left .

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Originally Posted by klein4

I think Giles is by far the best of them all and his hour on Newstalk everyweek is essential listening to anyone who loves football.

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well said

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Originally Posted by gustavo

Keane presumably thought it would go public and would'nt be pulled.

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Well we still don't know exactly what he said. Carefully controlled leaks don't count...

btw Giles is the biggest spoofer of the three of them.

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Originally Posted by jockser

Quinn a creep? the guy gave 1 million sterling to charity.
Keane is a thug and a bottler. Always was always will be.
And Dunphy is his ar*e bandit......this topic has been done to death.....

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and why do you know quinn gave a million to charity because he went on every show he could get on to tell every one , you dont hear about keane because he does nt brag about it .

and to all the people calling keane a thug do ye actually know what a thug is FFS . if giving one player a kick makes you a thug then god help us all i know ive done a lot worse and so have ye !. and it must make Giles a complete scumbag because he used to kick players up and down the pitch , same with players like pearse, bruce ,robson .......

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Originally Posted by anto1208

and to all the people calling keane a thug do ye actually know what a thug is FFS .

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dont forget i called him a bottler too!! :D :D :D

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Originally Posted by Macy

btw Giles is the biggest spoofer of the three of them.

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would disagree with you there. he always seems to approach everything from an angle of common sense. in what way do you think he is a spoofer?

Disagree Macy, Giles is the best of the three, by quite a bit

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Originally Posted by anto1208

so after an embarresing 4-1 defeat to boro you want you captain to come out and say nothing bad about the team !?!? in case it hurts there feelings ? maybe he should have said its not the winning its the taking part that counts.

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You can be as critical as you like, provided its constructive, not destructive.Keanes rants were quire dsetructive, with a hidden agenda. While I agree with the content of his criticisms, I cannot see how airing them in the manner in which he tried can be construed as any way helpful to anyone.

emm his criticisms were never aired.
so we dont know for sure exactly what he said.
and I know a lot of things were batting around and the consensus seems to be he said certain things, I just remember when we were hearing what was supposedly said in saipan about him questioning MaCarthys Irishness which turned out to be wide of the mark. A lot of initial reports seem to throw Liam Millers name into the mix just cause people thought he was a failure at man u but I never saw one quote about miller.

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Originally Posted by klein4

emm his criticisms were never aired.so we dont know for sure exactly what he said.

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When I said 'airing' them, I did not mean in the TV context. We all air views, they do not have to be broadcast to be aired. And you can be sure that if any of them were not true, there would be legal teams and injunctions flying around to beat the band.....

yeah fair enough.
just thought you were talkin bout the famous play the pundit one.
not so sure about the solictors letters tho.
they are goint to be talkin bout last nite on the joe duffy show today I think for anyone who has an interest.

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Originally Posted by anto1208

so after an embarresing 4-1 defeat to boro you want you captain to come out and say nothing bad about the team !?!? in case it hurts there feelings ? maybe he should have said its not the winning its the taking part that counts.

keane was dead right to say it and lets not forget he has probibly been saying it in private for weeks but no one listened , and how can you argue with the results it got from players like smith in the chelsea game .

and also note the performance level has dropped back down to the way it was before the outburst since he left .

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Yeah, that performance v Lille was really down to the outburst I'd say. Or does it not count?

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Originally Posted by joeSoap

You can be as critical as you like, provided its constructive, not destructive.Keanes rants were quire dsetructive, with a hidden agenda. While I agree with the content of his criticisms, I cannot see how airing them in the manner in which he tried can be construed as any way helpful to anyone.

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i think what has been forgotten is they asked him to go on the show to give expert comments on the game , they played rubbish got beaten by boro they asked for his opinion what was he supposed to do lie ??

the majority of people here complain about the experts on the english tv channels that never speak there mind , when one does he is out of line for speaking his mind.

i just wish more players would be that honnest ,

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Originally Posted by Macy

btw Giles is the biggest spoofer of the three of them.

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Agree with that. He doesn't seem to do any research and just tries to wing it when talking about teams he doesn't know.

I cut out last night's clip which was played on Joe Duffy:
http://rapidshare.de/files/8091114/dunphy.mp3.html

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Originally Posted by wild rover

eamon dunphy is really pathetic...brady mentioned certain journalists have helped keane,dunphy took it personally,maybe brady was trying to rise him...he reacted anyway and showed just how much he would love to be roy keanes arse buddy...

the attack on niall quinn....it had nothing to do with saipan..dunphy just cant leave it alone...

roy keane being called a thug

well now i think the haaland incident was the work of a thug...and "stick it up your bol...." to mc carthy wasnt very nice was it...roy keane has many characteristics of a thug and bill o herhily was only quoting yer man.....

if he wants to talk about running away with a young one...personally i think being drunk on tv and drink driving is more of crime....and so was giving him a chat show

...i enjoyed that

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Excellent stuff - I agree 1000%

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Originally Posted by eirebhoy

I cut out last night's clip which was played on Joe Duffy:
http://rapidshare.de/files/8091114/dunphy.mp3.html

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Cheers Eirebhoy, I had missed this last night.

Classic!!

the wmv file is here now :)
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