Ireland's next Manager

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17/10/2005, 12:05 PM
magic moments

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Originally Posted by Peadar

I'd find it hard to support Ireland is that whiskey nosed aggressor was at the helm. We need a professional coach, not an ageing bully.

agreed:D
17/10/2005, 12:36 PM
colster

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Originally Posted by wws

how a team or club comes to dominate the resources and therefore the league is irrelevant - the sheer scale of Abramovich's wealth makes comparisons with the previously dominant clubs a bit of a joke - but cast your mind back a few years and Manchester United were breaking the than transfer records to land the defining players of their generation eg Keane - they had no single abromovich figure to lambast but they still ****ed off all the other clubs because of their resources and profits

I see no difference between them and Chelsea - only the scale has changed - but money always goes that way...

I think you're wrong there. United, Arsenal + Liverpool were successful on the pitch before they dominated the resources. The money they spent was actually generated by the success of the teams on the pitch. You cannot say that about Chelsea. Chelsea would have been another Leeds if Abramovich had not bought them.
17/10/2005, 12:37 PM
colster

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Originally Posted by magic moments

agreed:D

So you let petty biases preclude Ireland getting the best man for the job!!
17/10/2005, 12:38 PM
sligoman

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Originally Posted by Peadar

I'd find it hard to support Ireland is that whiskey nosed aggressor was at the helm. We need a professional coach, not an ageing bully.

Have to agree with Peader:eek::D. If Fergie gets the job then I'm supporting England from now on;):mad:

BTW, I'm a Man U fan so I'm not jealous of his success with United. I just hate the man and think he's past it!
17/10/2005, 12:42 PM
thejollyrodger

Even if Fergie did get the job, he might not qualify for any of the major championships
17/10/2005, 12:44 PM
colster

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Originally Posted by sligoman

Have to agree with Peader:eek::D. If Fergie gets the job then I'm supporting England from now on;):mad:

BTW, I'm a Man U fan so I'm not jealous of his success with United. I just hate the man and think he's past it!

I thought this was supposed to be an objective discussion of who is best for the job and not who's the nicest person.
17/10/2005, 12:46 PM
colster

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Originally Posted by thejollyrodger

Even if Fergie did get the job, he might not qualify for any of the major championships

You can say that about any one who gets the job. The fact is that with Ferguson and his track record there is a greater probability + confidence of qualifying.
17/10/2005, 12:54 PM
Dawn_Run

Fergie appears to have ruled himself out, saying that he will end his carreer at Old Trafford.

Still though, he's gone in to 5/1 from 30/1 on Paddy Power.
17/10/2005, 12:59 PM
OwlsFan

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Originally Posted by Peadar

I'd find it hard to support Ireland if that whiskey nosed aggressor was at the helm. We need a professional coach, not an ageing bully.

Ahh, don't be so hard on Roy Keane :D ?
17/10/2005, 1:30 PM
BaZmO*

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Originally Posted by Dawn_Run

Fergie appears to have ruled himself out, saying that he will end his carreer at Old Trafford.

So what do you think would happen if Fergie went on record saying that he wanted the job? I don't think his current employers would look on it too favourably.

B.
17/10/2005, 1:33 PM
sligoman

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Originally Posted by colster

I thought this was supposed to be an objective discussion of who is best for the job and not who's the nicest person.

It's nothing got to do with that. I dont think he's up to the job, as I said, he's past it in my opinion
17/10/2005, 1:41 PM
colster

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Originally Posted by sligoman

It's nothing got to do with that. I dont think he's up to the job, as I said, he's past it in my opinion

I disagree. I think United have stood still. Chelsea have moved onto a different level. You can't afford to lose any games now where before you could still win the league after losing 5/6 games. Chelsea are a freak. If Abramovich hadn't bought them out it would still be United and Arsenal vying for the title with Liverpool and Chelsea close on their heels.

Anyway, who would you bring in?
17/10/2005, 1:46 PM
thejollyrodger

Fergie pours more cold water on the story

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http://breaking.tcm.ie/2005/10/17/story225841.html

Ferguson: Republic rumour is 'nonsense'
17/10/2005 - 14:38:43

Alex Ferguson has again insisted he is not about to become the new Republic of Ireland coach.

Speculation has been mounting that the Manchester United manager could be appointed as successor to current incumbent Brian Kerr in the summer, following the Republic’s failure to qualify for the World Cup.

Former Old Trafford favourite and Ireland international Denis Irwin has reportedly claimed there has been contact between Ferguson and the Football Association of Ireland (FAI).

However, Irwin has assured Ferguson he did not make the comments and the United boss stated firmly his current managerial job will be his last.

“I don’t know where these things start,” said Ferguson.

“Denis has told me he has not spoken to anyone and doesn’t know where it has come from.

“It is the usual nonsense. I made the point last week, after this job I'm finished.

“It is important to clarify this. Ireland have already got a manager. I don’t think it is nice to be linked to a job that someone is already in.”
17/10/2005, 1:50 PM
colster

I wonder if all this hype about the FAI talking to Ferguson is actually true. Maybe he was asked about his thoughts on a possible successor rather than him being asked if he would take the job?
17/10/2005, 1:52 PM
sligoman

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Originally Posted by colster

Anyway, who would you bring in?

Definetely Martin O'Neill and failing that then Roy Keane could do it.
17/10/2005, 1:55 PM
BaZmO*

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�It is important to clarify this. Ireland have already got a manager. I don�t think it is nice to be linked to a job that someone is already in.�

Kerr is not the manager, his contract terminated at the end of the campaign.

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Originally Posted by colster

I wonder if all this hype about the FAI talking to Ferguson is actually true.

Isn't Delaney (or his Father) a close friend of Fergie?

B.
17/10/2005, 2:08 PM
colster

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Originally Posted by sligoman

Definetely Martin O'Neill and failing that then Roy Keane could do it.

Martin O'Neill yes, I'd prefer him to Ferguson but I don't think Keane should be given it yet. We need a proven experienced manager. Having said that I don't think O'Neill, Ferguson or Keane would take the job.
17/10/2005, 2:09 PM
colster

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Originally Posted by BaZmO*

Kerr is not the manager, his contract terminated at the end of the campaign.

Isn't Delaney (or his Father) a close friend of Fergie?

B.

Yes, maybe they were just asking him for advice/opinion on possible successors. Didn't the Scottish FA do the same before they appointed Walter Smith.
17/10/2005, 3:41 PM
CraftyToePoke

what about ranieri? he's lookin for work at the moment.:cool:
17/10/2005, 3:44 PM
Adrianovic

If Alex Ferguson was the next Irish manager he'd be a blinding appointment, and anyone that says different should really have a look at this record. When did Ireland become such a great footballing nation that we could look down our nose at a manager who has won more Premiership titles and FA Cups than I can count and a Champions League trophy?

He's a good manager, end of.

The question is would he want the job, and would he take it? I'm thinking no.

There has been rumours in the past that he has influenced the retirement of some players from international football, I find it hard to believe that he'd take up this job at this stage. Also, are we presuming that he would do it on a part time or a full time basis? I can't see him leaving United, however he could potentially do it part time - yet I couldn't see the Glazers going for this.

If you're looking to possibilities that may lead him to be interested in the job, then you might say that he has taken Man Utd as far as he can and may look for a way out. International football is about the only thing he hasn't done, and Ireland may be his best option in terms of this. Ferguson may also not be too happy with the influence of the Glazers at Old Trafford and want to move away from them, and vice versa. Or perhaps he wants to go into semi-retirement, and would see the Ireland job as one he couldn't really fail at, as we qualify for tournaments so seldomly, plus he would only work once a month.

I can't see it happening, although I wish it would.

Ade

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