Roughan is back playing CB but would be my first choice call up if we were to fast track a LB. Going forward he offers you more than Garcia McNulty plus has a good left foot on him for set pieces.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Roughan is back playing CB but would be my first choice call up if we were to fast track a LB. Going forward he offers you more than Garcia McNulty plus has a good left foot on him for set pieces.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
He'll be club trained whether he's at the club or loaned out. It's the time he's spent contracted to the club that counts.Quote:
Originally Posted by JR89
Hes been injured all preseason I think so it's hard judge how involved he might be. If he doesn't play in that game he should Def be looking to go on loanQuote:
Originally Posted by zero
https://shorturl.at/gXxQI Here's a working shortcut to the link.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eminence Grise
It's more complicated for Uefa competitions where you have 4 club trained players and 4 national association players. For club trained players, you need 3 entire seasons between the age of 15 and 21 (not necessarily continuous) registered to the home club (not on loan).Quote:
Originally Posted by Eminence Grise
So if you sign at 16, it's easy. But if you sign at 18, there's a limited window, depending on your birth date, you've either got 3 or 4 seasons to work with. This is his 3rd season, meaning he will be home qualified if he doesn't go on loan. Next season, he would be ineligible as he's born on the 25th of June and the cutoff is 1st of July. If he were to go on loan to an English club, then he'd be a national association player but not a club player.
Whereas for the premier league, it's all national association. Still 8 players required but no need for locally trained players...
Troy had the same issue with Spurs, where they didn't let him go on loan in January when he was about 18 cause they didn't want to lose a year towards his club trained eligibility.
It's a big problem for Irish players going to England now though, if they choose to join a big club at 18 they might need to wait three years before they go on loan and hardly play any senior football in the mean time. By then they're 21 and that's late to be starting out in senior football.
Probably adds to the argument in favour of going to the continent at 16.
Yep - but only to teams that consider themselves European potential teams. That list is probably expanding but you can see that Sheffield United aren’t worried that Curtis will only be homegrown rather than club trained
*didnt properly read “big club”*
Depends because some clubs would have a few club trained players already. Newcastle had Paul Dummett and one other. They left Dummett leave so might only have one left. I'd say if they had a few they wouldn't mind Murphy just being association trained.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
Travers, Kelleher, OLearly
Coleman, Doherty, O'Shea, Collins, Omobamidele, Scales, O'Brien, Brady, O'Dowda.
Knight, Molumby, Smallbone, Browne, McAteer.
Idah, Robinson, Ferguson, Szmodics, Parrott, Ogbene.
Very light in midfield. Very surprised to see no Jamie McGrath given his form.
John O'Shea's influence likely not that strong, even though HH said he'd be leaning on O'Shea and McCarthy in this window for squad selection when there's no Duffy and no talk whatsoever about McClean.
No Johnston? Is he injured? He'd been making squads for Celtic.
No Manning either - or indeed anything interesting at wingback other than the suggestion O'Dowda might be it. Stevens misses out but Doherty, Coleman and Brady keep their places. Azaz also out which is a surprise (again assuming there's not an injury I don't know about, which is entirely possible)
No Duffy either; may be reaching the end of the international road.
Robinson back - meh. McAteer at least brings new signing freshness; hopefully it works out.
But it is what it is I guess. We just have a very poor squad. Still more interested to see how we play as I'm hoping that'll be the bigger change from Kenny
Would assume he'll be covering LB, LWB, and LW anyway.
Wouldn’t really see Kasey as a midfielder, so that’s basically 4 midfielders, which is worrying…
Injuries to Cullen and Azaz but surprised that McGrath and Taylor didn’t make it. I’d have had Connell and maybe Ronan as well but no shock they didn’t get picked.
No Mikey Johnston is interesting. He hasn’t played but still, feel like he’s done enough at international level to be included. Marcus Harness also maybe harshly done by, thought he did well off the bench for Ipswich so far this season…
Mikey Johnston passed his medical for WBA today anyway. Though assuming if he had a knock that wouldn't affect a medical as long as there's no major issues.
Squad seems light on numbers for no particular reason. Feels like either McGrath, Taylor or Sykes would have been a useful addition in midfield, as well as Johnston and Cannon further forward. With only 23 players, any drop offs will need to be replaced, and there will likely be a couple of dropoffs.
Half thought there'd be an outside shot for Neil Farrugia in that LWB role too, but O'Shea stuck with the tried and tested really.
I think the lack of Azaz, Moran, McGrath or any kind of creative attacking central midfielder gives a strong early indication of what would have been suspected based on HH's management history - creative attacking midfielders and playing through the thirds is out, strong runners and creating chances with wingers is in.
Not good news for the types on twitter that start creaming themselves whenever Andy Moran or Dan Crowley do something of note down the divisions!