Will the playoff be held in Croke Park ?

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Originally Posted by p_o_r

When the announcement came that the GAA had decided to make Croke Park available to the FAI and IRFU while Lansdowne Rd was being re-development the FAI issued a statement saying they were happy with the decision, however they had not ruled out playing games outside Ireland while re re-development was going on.
In other words, they may not be willing to pay what the GAA will be asking for to use the ground.
Not playing in Croke Park when it is available would be a very bad decision by the FAI if you ask me.
Fair enough the cost may be larger than the UK but in the longer term I believe it would alienate a lot more fans if the FAI were to play ‘home games’ in the UK while a 80K stadium is available just up the road. It would be a very short sighed action; I hope it does not come to it.

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I agree it would be a bad move by the F.A.I. to go abroad if Croke Park was available. However it would have been equally stupid to say we'd play there at any price. Some ridiculous figures were being bandied about albeit by the rump of bigots who were opposed to allowing football into Corke Park in the first place.

The current administration of the GAA appears to be relatively modern and pragmatic and I'm sure a deal will be done when/if Lansdowne is redeveloped.

This playoff is not covered by the rule change so it may have to go abroad if we reach the playoffs.

As has been said, I'm pretty sure this question has come up before during previous play-off games we've been involved in and it came to nothing in the end.

We would need to be drawn/agree with the opposition to play on the Wednesday (16/11) rather than the same day as the All-Blacks game (12/11) but I don't see why we couldn't get the temporary seats in and out in the time available if we REALLY needed to. I wonder if this is something the FAI are putting out there because they could make more money out of the game in a bigger UK stadium?

Croke Park WILL NOT be used for any playoff match. FULL STOP.
no point even thinking about it.

its only available while landsdowne road is under reconstruction which will not take place before november!

so its either lansdowne road or abroad.

Even if Croker was available i believe the stadium management that run croker would price themselves out of the market. I read somewhere that the reason why U2 only played 3 gigs in dublin was beacuse the gaa were looking for more monry for extra gigs.
Seemingly U2's management were amazed with their attitude for example in europe and the uk if you hire a stadium for for a number of nights the rental goes down pending the number of gigs you have but when u2 looked for extra dates the prices the gaa were looking for was more then any of the dates they already had.

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Originally Posted by SuperDub

Even if Croker was available i believe the stadium management that run croker would price themselves out of the market. I read somewhere that the reason why U2 only played 3 gigs in dublin was beacuse the gaa were looking for more monry for extra gigs.
Seemingly U2's management were amazed with their attitude for example in europe and the uk if you hire a stadium for for a number of nights the rental goes down pending the number of gigs you have but when u2 looked for extra dates the prices the gaa were looking for was more then any of the dates they already had.

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I reckon when the time approcahes common sense will prevail on both sides.
And as stated by many above it will not be for this 'possible' play-off but when Landsdowne is knocked so it's a while away yet

I have to laugh at the assertion that Croke Park used 'alot of taxpayers money.' Here's a few facts:

1. The GAA got E116m of LOTTERY money for the redevelopment of Croke Park. Applications for lottery funds are open to all organisations in Ireland.

2. The Government paid the GAA E25m to use Croke Park during the hosting of the Special Olympics in 2003. Without this they would not have been able to hold the opening & closing ceremonies in the style and fashion that they did.

While no offical data is available, it is believed that this money funded approximately 40% of the redvelopment of Croke Park. The GAA began palnning and redeveloping Croke Park without any public funding.

As a comparison, the FAI and IRFU have been promised E190m of funding (roughly 66%) towards the cost of redeveloping Lansdowne Road. This money has been promised ahead of even planning premission being granted.

The GAA is doing the FAI and the IRFU a favour by allowing them to use their stadium. If the FAI was properly organised they would've ensured that Lansdowne Road was not double-booked for the dates of the play-off once the fixture for the WC qualifiers were made...

Why not use Tolka? :D ;)

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Originally Posted by Réiteoir

Why not use Tolka? :D ;)

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cos Ollie doesn't allow tricolours in!

Id sooner goto the far ends of mars than goto croke park.

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Originally Posted by roboyle

If the FAI was properly organised they would've ensured that Lansdowne Road was not double-booked for the dates of the play-off once the fixture for the WC qualifiers were made...

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cant blame this on the fai.... they are tenants in lansdowne and have no control over when australia and new zealand rugby teams go on tour.

the problem with getting the bucket seats in and out again between the internationals is that the crush barriers on the terraces have to be removed to allow the seats go in. when the crush barriers are put back in they have to be load tested for safety reasons and this takes time.
maybe fifa will give us one off permission to use the terraces for the play-offs (provided we get there of course). the terraces are packed for some of the bigger friendlys

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Originally Posted by roboyle

I have to laugh at the assertion that Croke Park used 'alot of taxpayers money.' Here's a few facts:

1. The GAA got E116m of LOTTERY money for the redevelopment of Croke Park. Applications for lottery funds are open to all organisations in Ireland.

2. The Government paid the GAA E25m to use Croke Park during the hosting of the Special Olympics in 2003. Without this they would not have been able to hold the opening & closing ceremonies in the style and fashion that they did.

While no offical data is available, it is believed that this money funded approximately 40% of the redvelopment of Croke Park. The GAA began palnning and redeveloping Croke Park without any public funding.

As a comparison, the FAI and IRFU have been promised E190m of funding (roughly 66%) towards the cost of redeveloping Lansdowne Road. This money has been promised ahead of even planning premission being granted.

The GAA is doing the FAI and the IRFU a favour by allowing them to use their stadium. If the FAI was properly organised they would've ensured that Lansdowne Road was not double-booked for the dates of the play-off once the fixture for the WC qualifiers were made...

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Technically you are correct then we should use th eterm "public money". even by your figures €141 million is a lot of "public money".

The conditions for Lansdowne Road are different in that the government gets a stake in Lansdowne Road and will own some of it. Croke Park was paid for without any pre-conditions. Lansdowne Road is being built as a truly national stadium.

The F.A.I. are tenants in Lansdowne Road and could not stop the IRFU from taking up New Zealand's offer of a game in Dublin. Likewise assuming Croke Park is opened up then the F.A.I. won't be able to stop the GAA playing their final in September even if we wanted to play a vital qualifier the day before.

This site is getting so popular we have the media to answer our questions. :) From today's Star:

"Supporters have been logging on to the popular foot.ie fan site in droves to put forward the prospect of a Croke Park playoff.

But last night a GAA spokesperson said their dream was unlikely to become a reality.

GAA chiefs are insisting the builders will have to move into creaky old Lansdowne Road before there's any chance of a Croker match".

BTW - I heard on the news a few days ago that work wasn't planned to start on Lansdowne until 2007. I thought it was 2006. That means at least 2010 before its bloody built.

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Originally Posted by eirebhoy

I heard on the news a few days ago that work wasn't planned to start on Lansdowne until 2007. I thought it was 2006. That means at least 2010 before its bloody built.

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According to the schedule the work takes 27 months, thats still 2009.
The info is at this
Link, but they don't tell why it costs nearly 4 times to build as Borussia Park

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Originally Posted by SuperDub

Even if Croker was available i believe the stadium management that run croker would price themselves out of the market. I read somewhere that the reason why U2 only played 3 gigs in dublin was beacuse the gaa were looking for more monry for extra gigs.
Seemingly U2's management were amazed with their attitude for example in europe and the uk if you hire a stadium for for a number of nights the rental goes down pending the number of gigs you have but when u2 looked for extra dates the prices the gaa were looking for was more then any of the dates they already had.

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If the GAA were in any way responsible for cutting short Bongo's lovefest they deserve our heartfelt gratitude.

Play the playoff in Anfield and take over the Spion Kop! :D

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

so he could use his irish accent to score some scouse chicks and ride them. amnt i right cosmo ;) :D

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Funny coz I have a mate that's the exact same as Cosmo. He went to Liverpool and used his Irish accent to get scouse wans into bed (3 in 2 nights in fact). Dolby126 will forever be associated with those great nights. :D ;)