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Originally Posted by wws
Good to see former UCD players doing well for themselves!
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:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by wws
Good to see former UCD players doing well for themselves!
I hear it is being reported on the Gent website that Foley is about to sign for them.
1: The Bohs board are dopes. They signed the guy on a contract we couldn't afford then strang him along for a few months not paying his signing fee. Then, then when he had turned the tables on them, publicly offered to suck his c0ck to get him to stay. They have covered themselves in sh!t over this one.
2: Foley is a snake - the lowest kind of professional footballer. He always considered the EL to be beneath him and didn't put the effort in for about nine months - thus robbing his wage. Then as soon as anybody else showed any interest in him he moved heaven and earth to get out of his contract. Reneged on his agreement to accept a deferred payment and went on strike during a crucial injury crisis. Absolute disdain for the club, the fans, and to a lesser extent, everybody who is involved in Irish football.
3: It is also rumoured that ex-chairman of the eircom league Brendan Dillon acted as Foleys advisor on this and guided him through the labour court proceedings and the tecnicalities of weaseling out of his contract. There's a real Irish football man if ever I saw one.
Meh - he's a lawyer first and foremost; that's his job, unfortunately. If he hadn't have done it (if indeed he did), someone else would. I'd be more worried about looking at why Bohs put themselves in a position to be breaking the law like that than worrying about the people who merely advised when the law was being broken.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vitruvian Man
i really hate the "el brigade" with their "go on, do it for the sake of Irish Football" mentality!
he's a professional footballer, his job is to make as much money from the game as possible in the short time span in which a professional football career exists
- if bohs renaged on a contractual obligation and the opportunity arose for him than to void that contract and get paid better elsewhere - it REALLY IS A TOTAL NO BRAINER
and if he does sign for Gent I'd say the sign on fee alone would make it totally a sensible decision for the lad - we watch football for entertainment and a love and loyalty to certian clubs - they play football to earn money to live
While I agree with everything you are saying wws I will point out that you are only being philisophical about it because it didn't happen to you.
I'm a football fan and my club got shafted - if I want to come on here and call all concerned cnuts, then that's my perogative.
All concerned are cnuts.
FACT.
oh yeah accepted! fully. but to say things like "other el clubs wouldnt touch him now!" etc as was on this board is naieve. football players once they leave other teams with a few small exceptions are always cnutsQuote:
Originally Posted by Vitruvian Man
As a matter of interest, how many times have Bohs been to court or arbitration with employees in recent years? Foley and Kenny at least and I think there's more. Not very clever for a club run by a solicitor.
KOH
Thats not the issue, the point is Bohs gave him a job and alot of money, they stuck by him even when they weren't getting the rewards that the money they were paying him should have been providing him. Then he shows a bit of good form and finally it seems as though his signing was going to pay off and he goes and does a legger on them!Quote:
Originally Posted by wws
So I think it is a matter of loyalty and himself as a man that is being questioned
Foley was technically well within his rights, but is morally bankrupt given the inept efforts he delivered for much of his sojourn.
Any EL Chairman who has a shred of sense wouldn't go near him on his on the field record alone.
those two posts above are not right
bohs hired this guy and agreed a year on year signing on fee
it was their planning from teh start that was flawed
foleys form is irrelevant - thats football - a mere incidental
I don't know how many other players that Bohs went to employment tribunals over. I vaguely remember that we were in court over the Sean Thornton transfer deal to get more money - but I can't be sure.
It is being reported on the Bohs site by Gent fans that Foley turned up for training in Belgium today.
Regardless of the poor handling by the Bohs board and whatever technicality-based justification Foley had for weaseling out of his contract, the actions of Gent are reprehensible.
Apparently, when we were over there, their company directors boasted to the Bohs company directors that they had made €20 million in transfer fees. Yet they connive with Foley to screw Bohs out of a transfer fee which would be very small by their standards.
I hope we are putting a complaint into UEFA over it
There's a link between those two? The Ghent transfer is a rumour. And Bohs did fail to pay Foley. Regardless of anything else, that fact stands. Every other slant put on it is ********.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vitruvian Man
And I wouldn't be shocked if they came back to you and suggested you couldn't play in Europe until you started paying your players properly.Quote:
I hope we are putting a complaint into UEFA over it
John83
Bohs agreed a payment shedule with Foley but he later changed his mind.
If he agreed then we "were" paying him properly - but late.
Also the Gent website announcing they are about to sign him and Gent fans saying that he is at their ground today puts it at a bit more than a rumour.
It's all academic now, but do you believe that Foley and Gent are blameless in this action and it is not contrary to the spirit, if not the letter (which it may well be), of UEFA regulations.
To kind of answer my own question about Bohs shoddy employment practices -
http://foot.ie/archive/index.php/t-4165.html
So that's Foley, Kenny and Nesovic.....any more?
KOH
Are you they guy who wrote 'Team America' ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vitruvian Man
:p
I've always thought the footballers should have 30-50% of their weekly wage dependant on them winning the league game they have that week. This would prevent players who are not putting in the effort of bleeding clubs dry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vitruvian Man
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Originally Posted by Shelsman
F uck Yeah!
True. It'd help clubs doing poorly too. What about the poor sod who just can't get a game?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shelsman