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The same dimension that saw Carlisle playing non league football, or the 'lets get a chairman of a small club to splash out a few hundred thousand on me and my dumber thn dumb ideas??'Quote:
Originally Posted by lefty
The mans a joke. Until Rovers and Eircom League football see the back of him, then nothing will progress.
Why are people so obsessed about Roddy? It's not about the manager, it's about securing the future of Ireland's most successful and most famous club.Quote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
If the 400 Club give their seal of approval then we'll all get behind the new man. Hopefully the 400 Club will secure equity and a place on the Board and we can go about stabilising the club and building for the future.
A year ago or even 2 months ago we'd have jumped at this. Remember - Maguire is gone, the creditors will be paid and the 400 Club have saved Rovers. Onwards and upwards.
KOH
For me, you've answered your own question. The future of the club is intrinsically linked to its manager, and the input he has. Roddys input is always to spend spend spend nd live with the consequences of your actions thereafter. I believe the club has no future with him at the helm because he's too opinionated, doesn't have a sound economic brain, and is allowed influence too many people. This supposed investor, and I hope it materialises, has been strongly linked to Roddy at Carlisle. He's coming in based on Roddy and whatever Roddy has told him. John Courtenay did the same thing at Carlisle and it nearly bankrupted the man and caused him several sleepless nights...for me no club has a future with him being so involved in off the field matters. I'm not questioning his football or managerial ability, I'm merely saying that he'll cause you a lot of heartache off it.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
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Originally Posted by Réiteoir
weve put up with that just deserts already, we deserve this good turn of fortune after all the shyte weve been thru in the last 2 decades.
its funny watching olly byrne running scared..and you bitter gypos can continue doing what you do best.let your twisted jealousy of the Superhoops eat you alive!
Manager = Short term futureQuote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
Owner/Investor = Long term future
This investor has roughly 10 times the money Courteny has (had!) and has done a great job at Gretna. Even if he's a buddy of Roddy's, Roddy will remain an employee and like all rubbish managers will eventually be sacked.
We've had nearly 20 years of heartache and living from hand-to-mouth, this is about a new start for the club we love passionately. It's about where we'll be in 10 years time not 10 months time.
KOH
Thats all what we're about here, and I wish ye well.
Still think ye need rid of him though, although probably not until this investor has put his money where his mouth is.
Ah now come on WAR, dont you mean the creditors will get a tiny amount of what they are owed, not actually paid. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
Cheers, hopefully someday both clubs will be back where they belong at the top of Irish football.Quote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
Chippie - In your line of business you know full well that our creditors will be delighted to get anything. Under the last regime we were headed for liquidation, they'd have got sod all and they know it. It's what examinership is all about though as I said to you before I agree there should be an automatic points deduction for going into examinership.
KOH
Doesn't have a brain at all. rents one brain cell from his minder :pQuote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
Rovers were a day away from going bust and the creditors getting nothing. All the bohs fans and Olly would have been celebrating.
But luckily a solicitor sueing Branvard suggested the examinership route wherby, perfectly legally, an attempt is made to better satisy creditors than in a liquidation scenario. It is up to the creditors to agree their part so if they are happy to accept €0.30 in the €1 then no one can complain about the debt we've racked up as the new investor will have Settled it with the people it is owed to! It is for this reason that Rovers have not been punished for being in examinership as it means Rovers will now better satisy the creditors.
So get over it. The last thing the league needs is a Review of All the licences.....
Excuse me while I rupture my spleen from laughing too much at that last paragraph.Quote:
Originally Posted by anto eile
Jealous of a club with no ground, no cash (at the moment), a fly by night manager who couldn't cut it at the bottom level of English League Football who had to literally beg players to stay at the club without pay, and no real future - yeah that MUST be it!
Jesus - get over yourself - jog on and get a clue!
Rovers are like the old Wimbledon - a couple of glory days years ago - and are now sinking without trace, having moved home, changed their name, and are universally despised by the rest of football.
The very fact that you can laugh and sneer at the misfortune of a once great club that has (whether you're big enough to admit it or not) done an awful lot of good for the game in this country for many years is quite worrying, and indeed, sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Réiteoir
Brace yourself...it could easily happen to your club. And when you come crying for support and sympathy, remember how much you've shown to Rovers. :ball:
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Originally Posted by Réiteoir
this from a gypo?!?
:D :D :D :D
15 leagues and 24 cups is more than a 'couple of glory days'
just when you thought the black and tans couldnt be any more pathetic one of them comes out with that sort of s.hite
Do you really want to play tit-for-tat? Do you know the extent of Bohs' debts? I do and I wouldn't be laughing if I were you. Bohs chased a dream, failed and are now back where they belong - making up the numbers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Réiteoir
As for "no real future" that's wishful thinking on your part and it's wishful thinking that's about to be shattered.
KOH
Well put JoeSoap...Quote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
it could easily happen to any club
Hope it all works out and the problems are behind you. It would've been a disaster to lose Shamrock Rovers (my Grandad would be distraught up in heaven :p ) and the league can only get better with a strong Rovers team in it. :cool: