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Originally Posted by joeSoap

So, Jebus. Tell me what your expectations for the club were for the season last December.... Then perhaps you could tell me if you expect miracles to happen overnight....then perhaps you can explain to me how a new squad is supposed to automatically gel together in the first quarter of the season...then you can explain to me just what Noel O'Connors many faults are and why we're not running away with the league already...it is a simple game after all... :confused:

Not only do you want your cake and eat it....you want everyone elses as well.A little reality check from time to time might be in order..The club is learning to walk before it can run both on and off the field of play. Mistakes are going to be made by everyone. Support is whats required, nothing much to ask I'd say, plus a little faith in the regime. A little longer than some are prepared to wait perhaps....

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Is this man the best PR guy in the business or what? Well Joe if your remember back to the takeover, and the sacking of Mike Kerley, you'll remember that I have NEVER been in favour of Noel's appointment as LFC manager. Not only did I/still do believe that Mike had done Limerick proud in his stint with us, but I also believe that Mike was shat on by the new owners in regards to his departure. I have alwasy stated that what I go on is rumour and in some areas of my criticism I may not be 100% accurate with what I say, but with little or no information coming out of the club, and without an affective PR department than thats all I have to go with. You, Willie John and the rest of the 'Hey guys lets not criticise Limerick' obviously don't have much contact with general football fans. Whenever we sit down and talk about the sport, whether its about Man Utd, Limerick, Ireland, or Qutar's chances of making the World Cup, 95% of the time all we do is criticise, jesus I even remember one Utd fan I know even having complaints about their Treble winning year in '99. Now as regards to miracles happening overnight, than let me remind you of the talk and promises made to the supporters on this very board by you and others allegedly associated with the club. Remember the talk of being in the upper reaches of the Premier League within three years? Of players of Boby Ryan's calibre coming to the club? Well riddle me this Batman, how are we going to get to the upper reaches of the Premier League with a manager who is about as tactically sound as Kevin Keegan's defence coach in his Newcastle prime? And how are we supposed to attract the Bobby Ryans of the world on a performance/appearance orientated contract? Fact of the matter is, is that Noel's appointment was met with mixed feelings at best, and Noel, the club and yourself should have been well aware that building a management team on such shaky ground was always going to be a challenge that would be met with enthusiastic criticism by the supporters who were displeased with the appointment, so instead of the club telling the supporters to stop moaning, maybe we should be telling you lot to stop moaning about us and just get on with making your on and off field mistakes.

Thanks for that ... :D :D

The points I'm trying to make are that firstly, you can't satisfy 100% of the people all of the time. Secondly, the fact of the matter is that Noel is in the job, irrespective of peoples personal feelings on the subject, and that a little faith and support might not go amiss,rather than heckling and jeering every decision he makes. He has brought in class players like Mooney(though others do not agree), Tobin, Kelleher, Barrett, into the club, and re-introduced others. He has implemented a very professional set-up to the on-field activities, with proper structures now in place, and off the field Danny Drew and Kieran Judge in particular are moving mountains to ensure we will never go back to the days of begging Pike Rovers for the use of a ground, travelling to games in Donegal in cars, and eating out of McDonalds on the way home. Limerick FC is now a business, and a very promising one at that. Criticism, once constructive is always great, and welcomed. But when it becomes personal do you not think it understandable for people at the club to want to defend it. The sun isn't going to shine on this club for a while yet, and the simple fact that it is now financially secure won't guarantee the overnight success that seems to be desired.

Speaking of your Man United references, if my memory serves me correctly, Alex Ferguson was one game away from getting the chop in 1990 after 3 1/2 years of no success. A 90th min winner by Mark Hughes against Forest in the cup kept him in his job, and I think he's been responsible for the club winning a trophy or two since.What might have happened if the board didn't persist with him, and sacked him because they didn't like his tactics or poor initial results.

Sorry about the lack of 'effective' PR in the club , but I do have a full-time job to hold down, 125 miles away from Limerick, and volunteer my services wherever and whenever I can. I spend a lot of that time talking with media people. If you have any fan-based pr ideas, please let me know, ad I'll see what I can organise. :ball:

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Originally Posted by joeSoap

A 90th min winner by Mark Hughes against Forest in the cup kept him in his job

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Actually, 'twas Mark Robins. This is typical of the type of misinformation that we fans are subjected to constantly from the club. How are we supposed to take anything the new regime says seriously when they try to convince us that Mark Hughes saved Fergies job against Forest. It just isn't on.



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Originally Posted by LFC in Exile

Actually, 'twas Mark Robins. This is typical of the type of misinformation that we fans are subjected to constantly from the club. How are we supposed to take anything the new regime says seriously when they try to convince us that Mark Hughes saved Fergies job against Forest. It just isn't on.



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:o :o :o :D

In regards PR ideas, what has happened to our website? Isn't that part of the licencing scheme? I was under the impression that it was to be up and running at the start of the season.

It should be completed within the next week to 10 days.

Sounds good. If it's that close I assume the url is purchased etc, so is there an address we can bookmark to keep an eye out for it?

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Originally Posted by joeSoap

He has brought in class players like Mooney(though others do not agree), Tobin, Kelleher, Barrett, into the club, and re-introduced others.

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What, no mention of Colin Patrick? Surely even the club haven't given up on 'the player that will knock in the goals for us'* aswell? :D Sorry I'm just nitpicking at CP now.

*description courtesy of Willie John from a few weeks back

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Originally Posted by jebus

What, no mention of Colin Patrick? Surely even the club haven't given up on 'the player that will knock in the goals for us'* aswell? :D Sorry I'm just nitpicking at CP now.

*description courtesy of Willie John from a few weeks back

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Wouldn't he be included in "reintroduced others"?

Just you wait. CP will win you all over yet. And I'll have a big banner saying "Told you so". ;)

Deise, is the fanzine out tonight? Keep me a copy.

Well with all due respect, while we quite poor overall tonight, Can't Pass was utterly anonymous bar one exception in the first half when he beat his man and got in a cross. That aside, he dived, he ran close to the action without ever really getting involved and basically displayed the type of application I've come to expect from him (very little). It baffles me that Derek McCarthy was played in midfield to accomodate him while players like Conor Molan, Brendan Hughes, Darren Young, Ross Cosgrove and Keith Hartnett have to make do with a place on the bench (or even the sidelines).